2016 WTA Doha - Premier 5

Who will win?

  • Kerber

    Votes: 2 25.0%

  • Halep

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Radwanska

    Votes: 2 25.0%

  • Muguruza

    Votes: 1 12.5%

  • Kvitova

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Bencic

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Safarova

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Suarez Navarro

    Votes: 3 37.5%

  • Other

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    8
spystud

spystud

Talk Tennis Guru
Pretty clean stuff from Petko.

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Mr.Lob

Mr.Lob

G.O.A.T.
Wow. Anybody see that shot at 2-1 in the third? Vinci hit a deadly backhand slice down the line, Aga chops down on it two inches from the ground for a winner that clears the net by an inch. Vinci just smiles and mutters...profanities I expect. :)
 
spystud

spystud

Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah, hope those of you that can't watch are at least seeing all the clips on Twitter. Insane.
 
Mr.Lob

Mr.Lob

G.O.A.T.
Vinci battled. Aga got to that one extra ball that Vinci couldn't put away, and feasted on that second serve.
 
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helterskelter

G.O.A.T.
Suarez Navarro v Ostapenko in the final. Ostapenko won their only previous match 6-2 6-0 at Wimbledon last year.

Still, although Ostapenko is obviously a rising star, it must be a decent opportunity for Suarez Navarro finally to win her 2nd tour title. It'll be her 10th final. I'm not sure which she'll find more disappointing: her record in tour finals (1-8) or her record in major quarter-finals (0-5). Either way, she usually loses the most important matches. A good chance for her to turn it round and gain something close to equivalent to a Masters title. (Premier 5 aren't really an equivalent, because they're not compulsory. But it's close at least).
 
StanTheMan

StanTheMan

Hall of Fame
helterskelter said:
Suarez Navarro v Ostapenko in the final. Ostapenko won their only previous match 6-2 6-0 at Wimbledon last year.

Still, although Ostapenko is obviously a rising star, it must be a decent opportunity for Suarez Navarro finally to win her 2nd tour title. It'll be her 10th final. I'm not sure which she'll find more disappointing: her record in tour finals (1-8) or her record in major quarter-finals (0-5). Either way, she usually loses the most important matches. A good chance for her to turn it round and gain something close to equivalent to a Masters title. (Premier 5 aren't really an equivalent, because they're not compulsory. But it's close at least).
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I can't grasp my mind around the WTA tournaments structure.
 
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helterskelter

G.O.A.T.
StanTheMan said:
I can't grasp my mind around the WTA tournaments structure.
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I couldn't for a long time, either, but I think I've got it now. It's basically like the ATP's, except that they break the Masters Series into two divisions and they label the tournaments differently. Here it is, as I understand it:

1. Most prestigious tournaments = Grand Slams, followed by the year-end championships.
2. ATP's next 9 = the Masters Series, all offering the same number of points, all bar Monte Carlo officially compulsory. Here the WTA divides into two: a) Premier Mandatory = four tournaments that are almost exact equivalents of the Masters Series, as they are compulsory events, b) Premier Five = a sort of lower-level Masters Series, equivalent to when the Masters Series wasn't compulsory. Between the Premier Mandatory and the Premier Five, there are nine tournaments, hence the rough equivalence to the MS series.
3. ATP's next level = 500 series. WTA's rough equivalent = Premier series (a lot of the confusion is because they have three "tiers" of Premier series).
4. ATP's lowest level = 250 series. WTA's rough equivalent = International series.
5. The ATP's challenger system and the 125 series on the WTA are also rough equivalents, I believe. I may be wrong about that.
 
StanTheMan

StanTheMan

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helterskelter said:
I couldn't for a long time, either, but I think I've got it now. It's basically like the ATP's, except that they break the Masters Series into two divisions and they label the tournaments differently. Here it is, as I understand it:

1. Most prestigious tournaments = Grand Slams, followed by the year-end championships.
2. ATP's next 9 = the Masters Series, all offering the same number of points, all bar Monte Carlo officially compulsory. Here the WTA divides into two: a) Premier Mandatory = four tournaments that are almost exact equivalents of the Masters Series, as they are compulsory events, b) Premier Five = a sort of lower-level Masters Series, equivalent to when the Masters Series wasn't compulsory. Between the Premier Mandatory and the Premier Five, there are nine tournaments, hence the rough equivalence to the MS series.
3. ATP's next level = 500 series. WTA's rough equivalent = Premier series (a lot of the confusion is because they have three "tiers" of Premier series).
4. ATP's lowest level = 250 series. WTA's rough equivalent = International series.
5. The ATP's challenger system and the 125 series on the WTA are also rough equivalents, I believe. I may be wrong about that.
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That was quite clarifying.

Thanks a lot, mate. Seriously.
 
Vanhool

Vanhool

Hall of Fame
My mom said "If you can't say something nice, don't say anything at all." So.......



Edit: oh the hell with it Yuck. I like both these women, but that is a lot of errors and I can't stand a player that only makes 9 winners. Yuck. Carla as a top 8 seed is a walking bye (like Errani was) for the really good power players and I pray that Serena (or Vika who should be a top 8 seed, ability-wise) gets this gift, but probably end up going to Masha, as per usual :mad:

Edit to the edit: Even so, I am happy for Carla for winning this. I just don't like her in the top 8.
 
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Aussie Darcy

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Crazy that this time last year Sloane had never reached a tour final. Something like 6+ tour semifinals including Australian Open semifinal. I remember watching the Stosur v Sloane match at the Citi Open where Sloane won to reach her first final which she went on to win. Just 6 months later and she now has 3 titles!
 
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insideguy

G.O.A.T.
Aussie Darcy said:
Crazy that this time last year Sloane had never reached a tour final. Something like 6+ tour semifinals including Australian Open semifinal. I remember watching the Stosur v Sloane match at the Citi Open where Sloane won to reach her first final which she went on to win. Just 6 months later and she now has 3 titles!
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Yup three titles in 6 months. If she could just get some more consistent results in the bigger tournaments she is going to be shooting into the top ten very quickly. If she can pull a round of 16 at indian wells and miami she might even get there that fast
 
Aussie Darcy

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
2 tournaments on this week, both internationals.

Malaysian Open has started play.
Nara won the longest match of the WTA tour this year against Hantuchova. Was something like 3 hours 12 minutes.
Seeded Lisicki, Bouchard and Hsieh were all winners. 5th seed Hibino was the only seeded casualty.
 
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