2017 ATP World Tour Finals RR - Thiem(3) vs. Goffin? or Querrey?
- Thread starter Meles
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NatF
Bionic Poster
Missing my support.
He didn't know he needed it - until it was gone
Quality players playing well on HC are a bad match up for Thiem
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Awesome shot to take the set from Goffin!!
Poisoned Slice
Bionic Poster
Great pass to take the first set.
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
LOLOLOLLOLOLOLInterview after PCB match he said he felt a need to hit harder.
Perhaps he was referring to Kiki
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Goffin finishes the set with a GOAT shot.
YellowFedBetter
Hall of Fame
Well I guess the Fed fans are eagerly looking forward to seeing him pull the wings off flies again tomorrow now..
Rafa.the.Magnificent
G.O.A.T.
Wow. Way to hand it over after having it squarely in his own hands.
Krish872007
Talk Tennis Guru
Has Thiem injured himself or what? Keeps looking down at his knee.
albertobra
Hall of Fame
It must really be frustating for Thiem. His game just doesn't 'happen' on HC.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Neither Thiem nor Goffin would be trouble for Fed anyway. From the moment Nadal was out and Dimi topped the group, everyone knew Fed would get the easy SF.
Meles
Bionic Poster
Goffin looks like he's set on letting Thiem hang himself. Apparently he knows Thiem well.
Krish872007
Talk Tennis Guru
The mental aspect is the main reason Goffin leads the H2H 6-3.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Goffin is a bad match-up for Thiem on any surface. Even at RG last year, Thiem had to summon up a miracle to beat Goffin.Goffin looks like he's set on letting Thiem hang himself. Apparently he knows Thiem well.
enlightenment
Semi-Pro
Why does Goffin look likes he's about to cry
Meles
Bionic Poster
Let the buildup of another Federer pigeon begin.He didn't know he needed it - until it was gone
Quality players playing well on HC are a bad match up for Thiem
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Awesome shot to take the set from Goffin!!
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
Does Thiem have Knee Tendon rupture ?? what is taking so long ?
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
Ladies and gentlemen. I present to you, the TTW temperature scale
From cold to hot, obviously
Thiems spontaneous combustion temperature
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John Isner's inner fire in return games
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Milos Raonic' charisma
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Roger Federers break point conversion
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Dominic Thiems facial expression on pictures
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Nick Kyrgios body temperature when eating ice cream during warm up
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Too cold for Alexander Zverev
Too hot for Alexander Zverev
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Australian Open Summer on HC
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Perfect SockBurger temperature
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Radek Stepanek average GF
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@Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil when thinking about Andy Roddick
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Andrey Rublev when he misses any ball
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A foursome involving Anna Kournikova, Maria Kirilenko, Ana Ivanovic and Caroline Wozniacki
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Andy Murray burning Nick Kyrgios on instagram
From cold to hot, obviously
Thiems spontaneous combustion temperature
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John Isner's inner fire in return games
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I
Milos Raonic' charisma
I
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Roger Federers break point conversion
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Dominic Thiems facial expression on pictures
I
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Nick Kyrgios body temperature when eating ice cream during warm up
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Too cold for Alexander Zverev
Too hot for Alexander Zverev
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Australian Open Summer on HC
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Perfect SockBurger temperature
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I
Radek Stepanek average GF
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@Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil when thinking about Andy Roddick
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Andrey Rublev when he misses any ball
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A foursome involving Anna Kournikova, Maria Kirilenko, Ana Ivanovic and Caroline Wozniacki
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Andy Murray burning Nick Kyrgios on instagram
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
He's just not that good and never will be. I can't believe his fan base actually believing he's going to be #1. And his habit of talking to his box after (literally) every single point makes Murray's looking-at-my-box obsession seem tame.
Why would a player with zero originality, who stands on Mars to return serve and who's sole "strategy" is to hit every rally ball at maximum effort ever make a dent in the game? Watching him play indoors is painful he's so unimaginative, totally the anti-Fed.
Goffin is way more talented and the better player, his small stature just makes it so much harder to get much higher than #10 in rankings.
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
He always looks like that tbf
NatF
Bionic Poster
Let the buildup of another Federer pigeon begin.
Its pretty much just pigeons left in now. What's a Fedr to do?
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Just another excuse to talk to is box, roll his eyes and try to think to himself, "I have to hit the ball even HARDER."
ArcspacE
G.O.A.T.
Dimitrov asking for a WTA player's email address
YellowFedBetter
Hall of Fame
Thiem is a dingbat, no question.
But I think he DOES have plenty of ability, much more than you’re giving him credit for. He doesn’t use it though.
YellowFedBetter
Hall of Fame
That is true, but the fanboys (not you) are panging to see another beat down of a helpless opponent.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
He's never winning any major, including RG. Reading these threads touting Thiem is like reading 6 year old threads on the potential of Raonic or Dimitrov.
Shank Volley
Hall of Fame
albertobra
Hall of Fame
I am not saying he should abandon Gunther, but if Thiem wants to improve outside clay, he needs to add a new figure that can take his game to a new direction.
It's just history repeating itself. After clay season, Thiem is an average to 50 player.
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
Talk Tennis Guru
Lose so one of them wouldn't look like a pigeon.
Meles
Bionic Poster
This is mental/coaching. Goffin to me looks like he's not putting 100% effort except when he smells an opportunity. Thiem unfortunately seems to be matching his general motivation level.
Thiem has been mailing it in/lazy for all of 2017. Before this year he rarely did this. Hopefully he'll wake up here.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Sure, he has ability. So do Dr. Ivo, Donald Young and Berdych and they never will win majors either. Serious question: what impresses you about Thiem's game? Do you think he's mentally strong? Do you actually enjoy watching his style? Curious to know.
YellowFedBetter
Hall of Fame
Well then credit to you for not being one of them.
Meles
Bionic Poster
Hehe. Well this match is over. Easily the worst one of the event.Lose so one of them wouldn't look like a pigeon.
NatF
Bionic Poster
Lose so one of them wouldn't look like a pigeon.
That will make the era look stronger no? Good idea. I think Federer should legitimise his Wimbledon win by losing to Dimitrov in the final.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
It's just the way match-ups function. Just as Goffin is a bad match-up for Thiem, Federer is a bad match-up for Goffin.
And it's not Federer's fault Thiem can't beat any decent HC player.
YellowFedBetter
Hall of Fame
When he’s not completely got his head up his a—, yes, I enjoy his physical warrior working class style, and I USED to think he was mentally strong. But it appears more and more to me he’s just phoning it in.
Regardless of circumstances, you don’t do some of the things he’s done without being very skilled. But he has regressed and is like a huge disfigured lump of clay.
YellowFedBetter
Hall of Fame
I know, Dominic I’ve accepted is just a dingbat.
Krish872007
Talk Tennis Guru
Tim Henman on the BBC:
"I’m not sure what Plan B would be for Thiem but, as is the case for a lot of these guys, it’s about doing Plan A better."
"I’m not sure what Plan B would be for Thiem but, as is the case for a lot of these guys, it’s about doing Plan A better."
NatF
Bionic Poster
Most of these guys have no variety and subtleties in their games. Thiem would need a new coach to try and instil that in him I think.
RS92
Hall of Fame
Pure mental midgetry is my best guess from the investigations in What is Wrong with Thiem? thread. Interview after PCB match he said he felt a need to hit harder.
Maybe he should hire a new coach, or add another coach (?)
mike danny
Bionic Poster
From the moment Goffin defeated Nadal, I knew he had the best chance to qualify for the semis because of his match-up advantage with Thiem.
Charleneriva
Hall of Fame
Yes, good for Goffin (and Belgium) and now it seems what I was wanting while watching him play the Cilic match (Goffin beating him to a pulp to smack some sense into him - maybe) is becoming true. So embarrassing I must say. And so silly of me to think Kneeffin was that hampered and now it's Thiem's chance to finally get a clean victory.
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YellowFedBetter
Hall of Fame
And to think my parents spent 60$ on that shirt Thiem is wearing for me..
Thiem needs a new coach. I keep saying it.His progress has stalled. He needs to shake things up while he still has some good years left. Before you know it, he's 27, 28, and we'd still be here saying the same things.
Krish872007
Talk Tennis Guru
I think so too now.
Bresnik has worked really well with him on the fitness side of things. That's why he was relatively beastly during the clay season and managed to beat Nadal.
But now it's time to level up - he can handle the grind of the tour, now he needs to hire someone who can show him the way forward as a top player.
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