2017 ATP World Tour Finals RR - Zverev (3) vs Cilic (5); Zedbot Resurrection?

[User123]

Long season. I can see it in his body language.


Biggest tournament outside the slams...I am watching as much as possible.

Lol, Federer is 16 years older, had a much harder season and doesn't look tired at all.

 

[albertobra]

Yeh, Zverev will have to let this set go. I don't see him coming back.

He doesn't even call hawk-eye on an out ball... just complains with ref....

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Lame approach there. Hit the ball.

 

[Zara]

Come on, Z

 

[User123]

Huh? Zverev has more unforced errors than Cilic?

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Lol, Federer is 16 years older, had a much harder season and doesn't look tired at all.

It's called not being conditioned through the years. Federer's body despite being older is much used to trials and tribulations of the long season. It is a shock to system for someone as inexperienced as Zverev, this has been his big true taste of hanging with the big boys. All part of the learning process, by the time he is in his full prime, he will be fine.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

blasted servers

 

[Red Rick]

It's called not being conditioned through the years. Federer's body despite being older is much used to trials and tribulations of the long season. It is a shock to system for someone as inexperienced as Zverev, this has been his big true taste of hanging with the big boys. All part of the learning process, by the time he is in his full prime, he will be fine.

Zverev has also played an absurd amount of doubles.

 

[tennisaddict]

Luck running out finally for the Zedbot ?

 

[Zara]

Zverev badly needed to hold his serve there. This allows him to serve first in this set.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Massive hitting from Cilic

Takes the second set! We are going the distance. Nice!

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Good stuff. Going to 3.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

If you were stupid enough to consider business with Bob Rickman before you shook his hand then you deserve to lose it all. The sleaze is hanging right out of him.

 

[Krish872007]

Zverev once again switching off after the first set.

 

[Sysyphus]

This generation's Cilic-with-added-arrogance fails to close out the original.

 

[Zara]

Oh that wild forehand by Zverev, really. Otherwise he had the shot. At 30-40, I mean come on Zverev.

 

[Gazelle]

Another link please? Russian one no longer working.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Very nice, very nice.

I want to ask Z who his idol is right now.

 

[SeeingDusk]

zverev pumped up.

 

[User123]

Zverev looks mentally done. His emotions after every point clearly show that. Funniest thing that he can still beat Cilic even given that.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Brilliant from Cilic. Zverev was half celebrating the point win there. Oops.

 

[Zara]

Can't tell which way this will go...gasp!

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Beautiful lob from Zverev. Murray would be proud.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Murray-esque once more. Nice lob.

 

[User123]

Zverev at the net=point to his opponent. Should learn a bit from Mischa.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Cilic breaks.

So far, advantage Federer...

 

[Sysyphus]

Sweeet lob by Z-dawg followed by a ruthless passing shot from C-dawg

I liek

 

[mightyjeditribble]

Looks like Zverev may be done.

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[Sysyphus]

Talleeeeeeee!!!

Cilic in 3 pick lookin' good.

 

[tennis_pro]

This was only gonna go one way.

Zverev has lost too many times from a set up recently to pass on such a great opportunity. Got Cilic at 3,2 odds.

 

[User123]

Cilic breaks.

So far, advantage Federer...

Federer should destroy any of them in 40 minutes.

 

[Meles]

Zverev at the net=point to his opponent. Should learn a bit from Mischa.

Desperation when he goes to the net too much. Cilic has the match on his racquet, but he's been suspect late in matches much of the year.

 

[Gazelle]

The Zed'bot' gets broken again...on an indoor hardcourt.

 

[tenisdecente]

Zverev is more hype than anything else. I am still waiting for a decent show in a Slam

Cilic has played really well from what I have watched until now

 

[tennisaddict]

Match going exactly the way Fed would have liked.

3 setter, Cilic next which should be fairly comfortable since he is more used to him .

Zverev mostly out of the tournament after this .may even lose to Sock.

 

[PrinceMoron]

Down, down, down, down
I'm goin down, down, down, down
I'm goin down, down, down, down
I'm goin down, down, down, down

Funny choice of music at change of ends
Unless you are AZ

 

[SeeingDusk]

Zverev has no answers to Cilic's all-court play atm.

 

[Soul_Evisceration]

Looks like Zverev may be done.

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Zed looks done but we all know Cilic at crucial moments in matches, he's the gift that keeps on giving so you never know.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Impressive from the real Cilic.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

OMG! Cilic got outta jail there!

 

[User123]

Impressive from the real Cilic.

"Real" Cilic is what we seen in Wimbledon final.

 

[SeeingDusk]

what a volley from the croatian! nice reflexes and hands.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Impressive from the real Cilic.

 

[tennisaddict]

Errors of neutral rallies is Cilic's forte

 

[User123]

The new generation remains on the same level. I mean, you can beat Federer and Djokovic (not the best ever versions, but still) in masters final but can't beat Cilic? Zverev is pretty much the same as Kyrgios who can challenge the big three on a regular basis but lost to Dimitrov in Cincinnati final. There is a feeling these guys care more about beating a top player than about actually winning big titles.

 

[mightyjeditribble]

Cilic volleying a lot better than I remember,

 

[Krish872007]

This would be Zverev's 9th loss this season after winning the 1st set.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Get outta jail by Zverev now!

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Cilic jr fired up after his latest racquet fatality fail.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

This isn't over! Nice!

 

[SeeingDusk]

why is crowd against cilic?

 

[mike danny]

Zverev breaks back.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Zverev schooling this corrupt umpire.

 

[Meles]

Oh yes!!! 3 all

 

[tennis_pro]

Cilic doing Cilic stuff.

 

[PrinceMoron]

Not bad playing with a broken grommet

 

[SeeingDusk]

cilic broken from 40-15...

 

[mike danny]

I think both Zverev and Cilic will be dangerous for Fed. Especially Cilic.

 

[Sysyphus]

Talleeeeeeee!!!

Cilic in 3 pick lookin' good.

jinx jinx jinx jinx jinx jinx

now the silly ump has provided motivation for the youngster with a persecution complex too. Gonn' turn it around now.

 

[Meles]

Cilic doing Cilic stuff.

Not your best bet.

 

[SeeingDusk]

cilic needed the double break to secure the win. feel like cilic will lose 3-6 in the 3rd set now. 4 games in a row for zverev kinda thing, and plus the crowd is with zverev.

 

[Meles]

Zedbot confident

 

[Deleted member 77403]

I think both Zverev and Cilic will be dangerous for Fed. Especially Cilic.

Could be a dogfight, both looking like they want to go deep here.

 

[Soul_Evisceration]

As I was stating, the gifts that keeps on giving broke himself and Zverev is all pumped up.

 

[User123]

I think both Zverev and Cilic will be dangerous for Fed. Especially Cilic.

Oh, come on. Didn't people say the same before Wimbledon final?

 

[SeeingDusk]

what were the odds for zverev to win when he was a break down and 0-30? congrats to all those who bet on zverev, especially at that moment.

 

[tennisaddict]

I think both Zverev and Cilic will be dangerous for Fed. Especially Cilic.

Sorry , they are clearly a level below today's Fed.

 

[Meles]

Is Cilic next for Fed?

 

[Gazelle]

Is Zverev that hot that he has the whole crowd behind him despite a boring game and no slammy achievements?

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Oh yes!!! 3 all

I want Chris Kermode's thoughts on the current umpiring stratosphere. lol

 

[Gazelle]

Is Cilic next for Fed?

If he wins today.

 

[Meles]

Sorry , they are clearly a level below today's Fed.

Exactly. Zverev does not need to see Federer in the next round.

 

[User123]

Zverev, don't choke now.

 

[Sysyphus]

Cilic's service motion is like watching an eel do the Mexican wave. Cool and odd.

 

[tennis_pro]

Not your best bet.

Wait until the last ball.

 

[User123]

Much better from Zverev now. He looked done just 10 minutes ago.

 

[mightyjeditribble]

Whatever else happens, I'm impressed that Zverev broke back in the third.

 

[Meles]

If he wins today.

So Zverev pulls this out he get's out of the frying pan and into the fire.

 

[tennisaddict]

Is Cilic next for Fed?

Whoever wins this one will get Fed

 

[mike danny]

If he wins today.

Wait, so the order of matches is really decided by who wins? I thought Fed would have played Zverev regardless of the Cilic-Zverev match result.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

And it's good...

 

[Meles]

LOL. Just dropped in for 0-30.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

Incredible from Zevrev!!!!

 

[User123]

Wait, so the order of matches is really decided by who wins? I thought Fed would have played Zverev regardless of the Cilic-Zverev match result.

Yes, winners of the first day face each other next.

 

[Meles]

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Awesome stuff at the end from Zverev. Another good comeback.

I doff my cap to him.

 

[tennis_pro]

I swear to God Cilic has the mentality of a 4-year old girl. Another weird match that he loses.

 

[Meles]

Glorious Zedbot.

 

[jaggy]

Z in 3

 

[mike danny]

Basically if Zverev beats Sock, but doesn't beat Fed, while Cilic only beats Sock, Zverev is through.

 

[User123]

What an ending from Zverev! Once he calmed down and actually started playing-Cilic had no answers left.

 

[George Turner]

Good win for Zedbot, a three set win as i predicted.

Showed his big point prowess there, breaking when it mattered most.

 

[Deleted member 77403]

And Nadal's draw now looking much tougher now...potentially having to go through Zverev and Federer in the KO rounds.

 

[Sysyphus]

how did Cilic lose this match again?

 

[tennisaddict]

Bad news for Nadal.

Could be Zed and Fed back to back

 

[Meles]

how did Cilic lose this match again?

He got a touch tight and not quite as much oomph on everything while Zverev played much tougher on the UEs.

 

[Sysyphus]

Awesome stuff at the end from Zverev. Another good comeback.

I doff my cap to him.

Genie doffs her hat to him too

 

[TheAssassin]

Cilic must have heard I predicted him winning in 3 and then decided to screw with me.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Peter Fleming spelling it out. Marin Cilic has an Amir Khan style delicate mandible.

 

[Meles]

Ok. Who is creating the Zed vs Fed thread?

 

[Krish872007]

That's new! Well done Zed-bot, took some balls to turn that match around and he sneaks through in the end. Good debut at the tour finals. Federer up next.

 

[SeeingDusk]

cilic definitely choked. broken from 40-15, only to get broken again at the worst time of the match.

 

[George Turner]

Ok. Who is creating the Zed vs Fed thread?

i'll volunteer

 

[every7]

18/2017 R32 Madrid Masters Clay Alexander Zverev Marin Cilic 6-7(3) 6-3 6-4 1.83 - 1.83
40/2016 R32 Shanghai Masters Hard Alexander Zverev Marin Cilic 3-6 6-3 6-2 2.50 - 1.54
5/2016 R16 Montpellier I Hard Alexander Zverev Marin Cilic 7-6(4) 7-6(1) 4.00 - 1.23
32/2015 QF Washington Hard Marin Cilic Alexander Zverev 7-5 7-6(3) 1.16 - 5.20

Zverev versus a known quantity; will he measure up once again?

Interesting choice of match thread photo. Looks a video still from the Shanghai match, where Cilic lost a bit of a frustrating one, hence the drive-by handshake

It's called not being conditioned through the years. Federer's body despite being older is much used to trials and tribulations of the long season. It is a shock to system for someone as inexperienced as Zverev, this has been his big true taste of hanging with the big boys. All part of the learning process, by the time he is in his full prime, he will be fine.

Excellent comment. Someone asked me earlier in the year how 30+ Nadal could last longer than the younger Zverev. I said "Two words: muscle maturity"

Genie doffs her hat to him too

Are they dating? What's the scuttlebutt?