2017 French Open FINAL: [3] Stan Wawrinka vs. [4] Rafael Nadal
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Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
2013 Nadal was also a killer throughout clay but seemed he was a spent force by the time grass season came along. But he dominated the autumn hardcourts later that year.
Bhagi Katbamna
Legend
Whenever I am in a bad mood, I watch any of the network coverage of the 2016 presidential election night coverage. Seeing those liberal political hacks who call themselves journalists go from being jubilant and effusive at the beginning of the night to suicidal towards the end lifts my mood right up.
It's kind of like that in these threads as well. It's fun seeing the haters get mad at Nadal's opponent during the match for not playing the way the haters want him to play.
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
This was the oldest final at RG since Laver/Rosewall in 1969. First time since 1969 that both finalists were in their 30s!
veroniquem
Bionic Poster
Nadal is the 2nd oldest male player in open era to win RG after Gimeno in 1972 who was 34. (The 2 youngest were Chang and Wilander: 17)
So much for the "Borg type career" theory ha ha
So much for the "Borg type career" theory ha ha
Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
Congrats to Rafa and congrats to all his fans. It's been a long wait, but boy was he gunning for it all clay season. 9 was incredible, 10 is insane. 11 coming up?
Interviews:
http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=130723 - Stan
http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=130722 - Rafa
Interviews:
http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=130723 - Stan
http://www.asapsports.com/show_interview.php?id=130722 - Rafa
Bartelby
Bionic Poster
They are certainly bringing him down quite quickly now and they are helped, immeasurably, by self-inflicted wounds.
I am talking about Nadal on grass, obviously.
I am talking about Nadal on grass, obviously.
marc45
G.O.A.T.
He seems to have trouble making his mind up!
http://www.**************.org/news/...nadal-will-not-win-another-grand-slam-title-/
Charleneriva
Hall of Fame
Thanks. I watched the pressers but it's still "clearer" to read the transcripts.
Kudos to Stan for being very fair and gracious in defeat. (While some fans here are still bickering and downplaying both players.
)I'm surprised to know that he was feeling good physically in both the semis and final. Now that's the man! 32yo and was still able to come out of a gruelling 5-setter at RG not feeling exhausted and didn't make any excuses for his loss.
And the fact that he really cares about events not called slam as well. Apparently his losing early in every clay Masters made him feel doubtful. He was trying hard to find his best tennis before and at RG while many of his fans were still taking it for granted that he would automatically peak and turn into Stanimal once Slams arrive. Some even claimed he's not a hardworker simply because of his inconsistency. I mean,
.I'm not his fan but he has earned a lot of respect from me at this RG (not that I didn't respect him a lot before that). 32yr and still going deep at every slam, still going so strong physically as well. In fact he was the oldest RG finalist since 1969!
This loss is certainly very sad for him and his fans but there are still plenty of possitive things to take away. He is still proud of his run (of course he should!) so I hope his fans are still proud of him as well. And don't forget there will be more to come.
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Chanwan
G.O.A.T.
Agree on pretty much everything.Thanks. I watched the pressers but it's still "clearer" to read the transcripts.
Kudos to Stan for being very fair and gracious in defeat. (While some fans here are still bickering and downplaying both players.
I'm surprised to know that he was feeling good physically in both the semis and final. Now that's the man! 32yo and was still able to come out of a gruelling 5-setter at RG not feeling exhausted and didn't make any excuses for his loss.
And the fact that he really cares about events not called slam as well. Apparently his losing early in every clay Masters made him feel doubtful. He was trying hard to find his best tennis before and at RG while many of his fans were still taking it for granted that he would automatically peak and turn into Stanimal once Slams arrive. Some even claimed he's not a hardworker simply because of his inconsistency. I mean,
I'm not his fan but he has earned a lot of respect from me at this RG (not that I didn't respect him a lot before that). 32yr and still going deep at every slam, still going so strong physically as well. In fact he was the oldest RG finalist since 1969!
This loss is certainly very sad for him and his fans but there are still plenty of possitive things to take away. He is still proud of his run (of course he should!) so I hope his fans are still proud of him as well. And don't forget there will be more to come.
Concerning the exhaustion question, I think it's part of his no excuses attitude which I like. If he was exhausted he wouldn't say cause when you take the court you're fit to play kinda
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
Final feels like a long time ago already. Clay what is that? LOL
Quick transition to grass. Hope Rafa makes the transition as quick too
Quick transition to grass. Hope Rafa makes the transition as quick too
Z
Zara
Guest
It's a pity that the younger generation have yet to make a solid mark but it does take a few years to fully evolve as a player. Perhaps within the next two years we'll see some of them rising to the top.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Well, a shame as far as Stan is concerned. He has blown is shot this year at winning a slam. Since 2014, his average has been 1 slam final per season. I guess we'll have to wait until 2018 to see Stan lift #4.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
Well Nadal was skipping huge chunks of the seasons to maintain his health. He's skipped countless Slams and taken months off at a time because his body can't handle the rigorous grind of the seasons. Good idea I guess. Good for the sport that the legends can continue playing at a high level as long as they're careful with their schedules.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
He has a chance at USO if he can avoid Federer. He's not intimidated by anyone else on hardcourts.
70後
Hall of Fame
And the fact that he really cares about events not called slam as well. Apparently his losing early in every clay Masters made him feel doubtful. He was trying hard to find his best tennis before and at RG while many of his fans were still taking it for granted that he would automatically peak and turn into Stanimal once Slams arrive. Some even claimed he's not a hardworker simply because of his inconsistency. I mean,
They made up and then take that Stanimal thing for granted to fit their posts and forecasts, disregarding just how hard it is for a pro at any level, let alone the very best.
Yugram
Legend
Look what I accidentally found. Exactly 4 Slemz won since then.
Mike Sams
G.O.A.T.
To be fair, nobody saw Federer winning any more Slams after 2016. But then 2017 happened...Look what I accidentally found. Exactly 4 Slemz won since then.
TennisFan3
Talk Tennis Guru
Last good match by Nadal on clay, by Nadal's own standards. After 2017, he's never been close to his best on clay.
Even though 2017 was not peak/prime Nadal, the 2017 Nadal looks like a God compared to the 2020 Nadal.
Even though 2017 was not peak/prime Nadal, the 2017 Nadal looks like a God compared to the 2020 Nadal.
Yugram
Legend
People are sooo desperate to believe that Nadal is vulnerable at RG. Never learn.
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TheNachoMan
Guest
I forgot how bad 2017 was after AO. Every slam final sucked monkey sheet
Xemi666
Professional
Nadal bery bery bad this year no?
so Guga says Nadal is going to win 15 RG's
Guga's an enthusiastic guy
Guga's prediction is not looking too bad right now
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aldeayeah
G.O.A.T.
Three won since, two left...
Bhagi Katbamna
Legend
You have to remember that Stan beat Nadal in the last slam final they played and beat Djokovic in the US Open in the last slam final that Stan played in.
Yugram
Legend
Nadal’s chances at RG will be downplayed for as long as world exists. Haters want to believe there is some hope.
Nadal_King
Hall of Fame
And then he won 3 more after this, crazy to think in 6 months he could win 5 in a row equalling best consecutive streak at this tournament at 30+
