Rusty Shackleford
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I don't think anybody said Goffin was a guarantee to win the set. It's simply a shame that we don't know how the set would've turned out sans the bad call, whereas the bad call severely tilted the match in Nadal's favour, and he was already the huge favourite anyway which just makes it worse.
He's too much of a genuine gentleman to even think of doing such.Would have liked Goffin to do a Fognini to Mourier, "I want to talk to you outside. Come now. Don't be afraid."
I dislike Nadal's antics, but I cannot see bad sportsmanship from him in the match. We cannot assume he did wrong now just because he doesn't have a perfect record. The umpire and he alone is to blame for what happened today.
We're not saying it could be taken to the bank. Obviously Rafa could come back regardless and was still the bookies favorite to win.
But an umpire can't mess up this badly. The linesperson should have corrected him, Rafa - who turned away as if he was completely sure the game was over - should have forfeited the point.
And yes, Goffin should have been mentally stronger as well, but robberies this big are rare and when you're playing the clay goat in one of the biggest matches of your life, I can understand he feeled dejected. He fought for the rest of the game and came close - after that, zilch.
If one point, taking you to deuce at 3-2 in the first causes you to disappear and decides the match, you're a mental midget who didn't deserve it anyway.
People do realize they are talking about 3-2, deuce in the first set, right? It wasn't match point.
no, because that ist the job of you´re opponent, if its called in. Here we have a referee that most likely just had seen it wrong, went there, and overruled the linesperson, wich also don´t corrects the call/refree looking at the same mark. So it was clearly a wrong and bad decision, but i never would blame Nadal for it, simply because, many times on clay, way back from over the net, you cannot decide whether its in or out ... sometimes you can, and sometimes you cant.
Thats the point why in social matches (at least here in germany) if my opponent calls a ball out on his side i simply accept it, until it hits the fence before ... because its hard to see, and i have made a lot of wrong calls that were corrected, that i was certain i was right, and get it afterwards that i was completely wrong.
And, at least, in a Tournee, an Umpire gives me a point that he has checked and seen as correct, why should i question his decision. He has linespersons he also can talk to, he can see a lot better, he has replay and everything ... all this we also have on TV, but not the Players on the field.
And what I REALLY HATE is this thing that you just wanted to follow a mach, and to get whats going on without actually watching it, and all this Games with Participation of Federer/Nadal/Djokovic sooner or later explode because of this dumb mass of Fanbase morons (of every Player) sittig their arses flat in some betting office pounding their tapatalk and drinking the 10 can of Lager ... haven´t had played a single ball of Tennis, or even ever seen a tennis court in all their lives ...
Players are wrong all the time, true. But they are mostly wrong on close calls. I'd like to think that when you play tennis at this level, you can actually feel that you hit a ball that long from the moment you hit the ball. He's reaction is indicating as much -> i.e. no doubt. When you combine that with Goffin marking the mark and then going ape **** on the umpire - and being backed up by the crowd - there's an argument to be made that he should have done the sportsmanlike thing here.The point is players are rarely sure on close balls on the opposite end of the court. You have to trust the line judge, chair umpire, etc. He obviously thought it was out, but it is tough to be sure. Why? Players are wrong all the time, so if the chair umpire overrules, even checks the mark (specially on clay), etc, how the heck can you be sure?
Seriously, man. I know you are a very reasonable poster, and my post wasn't addressed to you though.
@vive le beau jeu ! also has diplomatic immunity. LOL
Not defending or attacking anyone but Goffin was up 40-Love in the game and had advantage twice after the bad call.Wrong. It was advantage Goffin. He would have been 4-2 up in the set. All the momentum with him. It is still important
Not defending or attacking anyone but Goffin was up 40-Love in the game and had advantage twice after the bad call.
I'm just saying that it wasn't an instant collapse by Goffin. When he was up 40- love, he missed at least 2 routine forehands.I guess you are aware than a 40-0 in clay means **** against Nadal right? Ask a guy who has won 18 slams about it![]()
I'm just saying that it wasn't an instant collapse by Goffin. Looking at the highlights, breaking back to 3-3 relaxed Nadal and he started hitting out.
To blame Goffin for the meltdown after that is hilarious. Some people probably has never taken a racquet or at least went to play an amateur tournament to know how a bad call can mark the destiny of the match, specially when that call is so obviously wrong.
Not using shotspot is just the cherry on the kr@p cake that is clay court tennisNadal 2 - 3 ; 40-adv Goffin
Nadal sends it long, linesman calls it out. Both think the game is done (making it 2-4) but suddenly Cedric decides it's time for his weekly 10 meter jogging session and waddles over to the mark and says it's in. He's obviously pointing at the wrong mark but the linesman doesn't correct him. Afterwards HawkEye shows that it's clearly 10cm long. Goffin is furious and unable to focus well for the rest of the match, wins only 1 more game.
Hmm, I haven't played in any tournaments but I would suggest completely the opposite. If you can not deal with a single mistake OR think that such one mistake/point (in this case an AD point in the 6th game, 1st set) "can mark the destiny of the match", than you are not that experienced. I would expect a proffesional player like Goffin, who has played many matches and probably have seen similar situations before, to not have a "meltdown". To be clear, I don't exactly blame him, but I would expect something different.
The only reason Nadal assumed he had lost the point (and went for the towel) is because why wouldn't you trust the line ump's call?
I fell asleep after Pouille decided not to go away and took his match to a 3rd.
Woke up to see Nadal won and haters hatingepic. Time for a smoke and highlights
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Don't look at the highlights and make judgements on the dynamic of the match, Goffin disappeared not after the bad call, but after being broken. Completely different player before 3-all and after. That's the sole story of the match.I'm just saying that it wasn't an instant collapse by Goffin. When he was up 40- love, he missed at least 2 routine forehands.
Looking at the highlights, breaking back to 3-3 relaxed Nadal and he started hitting out.
Schwartsman took 8 games off Rafa yesterday, Goffin was leading 4-2 and was the better player. He beat Djoko yesterday, who hit patches of great form.My goodness people, Goffin was NEVER beating Nadal today and I say that on #TeamGoffin. I literally turned my tv off knowing Nadal was the next match bc I knew he wouldn't lose. Stop crying.
My goodness people, Goffin was NEVER beating Nadal today and I say that on #TeamGoffin. I literally turned my tv off knowing Nadal was the next match bc I knew he wouldn't lose. Stop crying.
I guess you dont get it Michael
I am fairly sure Nadal has the upper hand for the match, even if Goffin wins the first set. You are missing the point completely. We were denied a great match because of a monumental mistake, and thanks to that 1d10t in the chair, Goffin was denied a good chance to at least compete. Tennis is not only about points, it is a mental game, and a blatantly wrong call who looks more like a thief act, can take you away from the court. Nadal has 10% of the blame here at most
I get the point, im just saying its moot. You can't let a line call affect you at the pro level like that. He was probably more physically spent than anything and that was his excuse to exit.
A guy who had a lead of 4-2 in the first set HAD a chance to win. Probably not as big as Nadal overturning the match even if Goffin wins the first set, but a chance. Chance that was denied by a horrendous call.
You don't get the point, you think there is no point
Lol im not about to sit here and go back and forth about one point in a tennis match. Have a great day and enjoy the final![]()
Dont think so, I dont want to watch porno in a tennis court. But thanks for the good wishes![]()
Tennis is probably 80% mental in the big stage so it is not surprising to watch Goffin melting down.
Believe me, a single point CHANGES (or may change) the destiny of a match. Ask Federer in US Open 2011
Why having hawk eye then? Lets just trust the umpires, specially when they screw it up big time like here![]()
The umpire and he alone is to blame for what happened today.
Can this umpire be punished in some way? What are the chances this happens?
Has this umpire already erred so blatantly before?
this call was as bad as any of them - just not multiple times of courseThis is what bad calls look like
The bright side to what has transpired today is Fed beat a Prime Nadal in the last 3 matches they played.![]()
Is there a reason beyond the obvious that this moron keeps spamming the thread with discussion of federer etc?
Oh, I agree that they need to use hawkeye!
This is a result thread no??
Is there a rule that was written by morons saying I cant talk about the result of this match as it compares to other results?
Federer didn't play today. The fact that you can't stop bringing him up says everything about your limited mind.
Maybe you are right. But the bad call robbed Rafa the chance showing all the haters he is capable of winning the match on his own. Poor guy, the real victim here.My goodness people, Goffin was NEVER beating Nadal today and I say that on #TeamGoffin. I literally turned my tv off knowing Nadal was the next match bc I knew he wouldn't lose. Stop crying.
The fact that you are policing me that I cant compare this result shows how immature you are.