2017 PD vs DR 100

CopolyX

Hall of Fame
We have played with both. My son more, funny how the specs are so damn close.
I have to say we liked the feel of 2015 over the 2017. 2017 being a bit disconnected.
Performance wise both (or all three) are big hitters. Very similar in our results. Stiff frames and I (& we) have never warmed up to fat beam sticks. We keep trying thou..
I (we) certainly can use them with a vengeance.
I think it really comes down to that yonex feel verus the babolat feel. And controlling that power requires a good inside - out topspin. Slices seems smoother to me with the PD 17 (better on the 15).
Muted wise yonex has it, using there QS gel . I used n gut and poly on both. Still around the net, they did not work for us. Key cause we are very aggressive and play all court.
I have a DR 98+ which for me tops them in a more versatile all court stick ( for me). Thou my go to is a TC97 (3)
My son wanted to try these out awhile back. Also tried the tfash 300PS ..nope.. We sold them locally and he is still using his angells.
He has TC100 (2), TC 97 (both 16 x 19(3) and 18 x 20 (3)) which keeps him busy ( ncaa diii).
Why not demo the puppies?
 

alexdoro

New User
We have played with both. My son more, funny how the specs are so damn close.
I have to say we liked the feel of 2015 over the 2017. 2017 being a bit disconnected.
Performance wise both (or all three) are big hitters. Very similar in our results. Stiff frames and I (& we) have never warmed up to fat beam sticks. We keep trying thou..
I (we) certainly can use them with a vengeance.
I think it really comes down to that yonex feel verus the babolat feel. And controlling that power requires a good inside - out topspin. Slices seems smoother to me with the PD 17 (better on the 15).
Muted wise yonex has it, using there QS gel . I used n gut and poly on both. Still around the net, they did not work for us. Key cause we are very aggressive and play all court.
I have a DR 98+ which for me tops them in a more versatile all court stick ( for me). Thou my go to is a TC97 (3)
My son wanted to try these out awhile back. Also tried the tfash 300PS ..nope.. We sold them locally and he is still using his angells.
He has TC100 (2), TC 97 (both 16 x 19(3) and 18 x 20 (3)) which keeps him busy ( ncaa diii).
Why not demo the puppies?
Which TC97 he likes more? 18x20 or 16x19?
 

beltsman

Legend
We have played with both. My son more, funny how the specs are so damn close.
I have to say we liked the feel of 2015 over the 2017. 2017 being a bit disconnected.
Performance wise both (or all three) are big hitters. Very similar in our results. Stiff frames and I (& we) have never warmed up to fat beam sticks. We keep trying thou..
I (we) certainly can use them with a vengeance.
I think it really comes down to that yonex feel verus the babolat feel. And controlling that power requires a good inside - out topspin. Slices seems smoother to me with the PD 17 (better on the 15).
Muted wise yonex has it, using there QS gel . I used n gut and poly on both. Still around the net, they did not work for us. Key cause we are very aggressive and play all court.
I have a DR 98+ which for me tops them in a more versatile all court stick ( for me). Thou my go to is a TC97 (3)
My son wanted to try these out awhile back. Also tried the tfash 300PS ..nope.. We sold them locally and he is still using his angells.
He has TC100 (2), TC 97 (both 16 x 19(3) and 18 x 20 (3)) which keeps him busy ( ncaa diii).
Why not demo the puppies?
Because it's unbearably cold!

I'm only curious because the specs are so so similar. I imagine the PD has a higher launch angle and the DR is flatter. I didn't like the PD 25 feel, too mushy, disconnected, and imprecise.

Is the DR like this? Is the PD 17 like this?
 

sma1001

Hall of Fame
DR is not muted but has similar power?
DR is muted too but in a different way. Not as dramatic a change as from the PD15 to the PD18.

I'd say DR has similar power but is a bit less stable. I've found the PD18 to be remarkably stable. Of course, it may be that i have one with more weight around the hoop.

PS: I've seen it said that power drops off quickly above the sweetspot on the Ai/DR series, hence the additional stiffness added in the upper hoop of the new Ezone line.
 

CopolyX

Hall of Fame
Racquet Power take aways.. TWU
Unfortunately it is not as easy as simply choosing the racquet with the highest power potential at the location where you make contact with the ball.
There is a catch. More than anything else, power potential is determined by mass and mass distribution — in other words, on weight, swingweight, and twistweight.
The so-called "best or most powerful" racquet may not be the best for you.
A racquet not only needs to be comfortable on impact, but it also needs to be comfortable to swing.
Swingweight, as its name implies, is the most important variable when it comes to "swingability" characteristics of each racquet.
The higher the swingweight, the more difficult the racquet is to swing.
Baseliners generally like higher swingweights whereas some serve-volleyers and junkballers often prefer lower swingweight.
But what is best for you also depends on your physical strength and the efficiency of your stroke.
Power potential is not an artificially created average rating scheme or made-up formula to substitute for lack of data.
It is not marketing hocus-pocus or sales mumbo-jumbo.
It is the experimentally determined "overall performance" of the racquet.
The consequence of every atom that is put into a racquet is taken into account in the results.
It is not just a "power" rating.
It is an "everything" rating!
 

beltsman

Legend
Racquet Power take aways.. TWU
Unfortunately it is not as easy as simply choosing the racquet with the highest power potential at the location where you make contact with the ball.
There is a catch. More than anything else, power potential is determined by mass and mass distribution — in other words, on weight, swingweight, and twistweight.
The so-called "best or most powerful" racquet may not be the best for you.
A racquet not only needs to be comfortable on impact, but it also needs to be comfortable to swing.
Swingweight, as its name implies, is the most important variable when it comes to "swingability" characteristics of each racquet.
The higher the swingweight, the more difficult the racquet is to swing.
Baseliners generally like higher swingweights whereas some serve-volleyers and junkballers often prefer lower swingweight.
But what is best for you also depends on your physical strength and the efficiency of your stroke.
Power potential is not an artificially created average rating scheme or made-up formula to substitute for lack of data.
It is not marketing hocus-pocus or sales mumbo-jumbo.
It is the experimentally determined "overall performance" of the racquet.
The consequence of every atom that is put into a racquet is taken into account in the results.
It is not just a "power" rating.
It is an "everything" rating!
It doesn't take into account energy used to swing though. A SW of 500 would give a massive PP IF RHS remained the same...but realistically it wouldn't.
 

CopolyX

Hall of Fame
It doesn't take into account energy used to swing though. A SW of 500 would give a massive PP IF RHS remained the same...but realistically it wouldn't.
hmmm, everything rating is that ...everything...
a SW of 500, 600...sure..
 
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