2017 Pure Strike

DANMAN

Professional
What tension do you have the ALU power at? My singles partner uses ALU power and it's starting to bug him a bit. Have you considered ALU power soft? Maybe give Element a try. My latest Element convert is a nice 5.0 player. She was transplanted into our club from New York. A former D3 player off 8 years to have kids, came back, I could see her demoing a bunch of stuff so I suggested she hit with my PA and element. Literately 10 minutes with it and she's ordered a PA strung with Element from TW. I should get an Element T-shirt from Luxilon or something.

I strung it at 52 but I've gotten used to softer polys like ripspin/resolve which I was using in my blade 98S frames which are like pillows with the open string pattern. The one7 was not uncomfortable but I think I'd like to soften it up some. I'm going to try a gut hybrid at some point. I keep a reel of Isospeed baseline that I would sometimes use in the blades because I tore through strings with the blade s and tried the Isospeed in the crosses with gut and thought it played great. Using it as the crosses basically makes each string job half the price of the set of gut you buy since it is $40 a reel making a half set for crosses about $1. We are talking about getting a tonic hybrid for the cost of a set of alu and it maintains playability much longer.
 

Zavist

Rookie
I strung it at 52 but I've gotten used to softer polys like ripspin/resolve which I was using in my blade 98S frames which are like pillows with the open string pattern. The one7 was not uncomfortable but I think I'd like to soften it up some. I'm going to try a gut hybrid at some point. I keep a reel of Isospeed baseline that I would sometimes use in the blades because I tore through strings with the blade s and tried the Isospeed in the crosses with gut and thought it played great. Using it as the crosses basically makes each string job half the price of the set of gut you buy since it is $40 a reel making a half set for crosses about $1. We are talking about getting a tonic hybrid for the cost of a set of alu and it maintains playability much longer.
Would love to know how that hybrid works. Keep us informed!
 
Currently play 2014 PS 18x20 with leather babolat grip, yonex overgrip. Strung 54 Lux BB Alu mains 46 Lux 4g crosses.

I personally can't wait to get my hands on a new PS 18x20. For me this the racket I never wanted to like (in general have been anti-babolat), but just can't get away from it. It does have a significantly lower launch angle than any other the other racket's I have hit with. But works well, and when you start compensating for the low launch angle or need more margin of error, the spin kicks in hard.

Baseline:
Forehands - have the spin and depth to control points. Speaking of control, there are times I feel like the ball is being targeted with a laser pointer. It bleeds enough power that I don't hit long, but still has enough pop that I hit a significant number of outright winners (some with pace, some with control). The racket is light enough that I can adjust to whacky bounces and give me a chance at those defensive shots.
Backhands - perhaps my favorite shot with his racket. I don't know why, but I just hit them better with this racket. At times I am slow or don't follow through all the way, but not with this racket. I also can do a much better job taking the ball early on the rise with the backhands, not something I can do well with any other racket.
Slices - I am a little more neutral on, the slice but to be honest it usually a defensive or lazy shot for me.

Net:
I volley as well with this racket as any I have ever hit with. The only racket I have hit with that felt better at the net was the Graphene XT prestiges (which just feel like butter/natural). For me more consistency and control.

Serves: perhaps the most important shot in tennis, and the shot I am least happy with to be honest. I have control on the lines/angles but struggle to generate enough top spin to be as consistent as I want. I also lack the pop I am used to, and so am not winning nerly as many points of the serve as I was before. The serve has become a shot that sets up the next shot and starts the point. But the serve used to be a weapon for me, now more a tool to start a smart point (perhaps that makes me better too).

I have read about the stability issues, and agree that mishit shots torque the racket a bit. It hasn't bothered me that much other than new callouses on my hands and I wear through an overgrip every one-two plays. But supposedly the new version correct a lot of this.

Hope this helps, and look forward to hearing more!
 

Mareqnyc

Hall of Fame
How would you compare the two on return of serve? Return of serve is where I need some improvement. Heavy kick serves to my forehand are giving me trouble. Guess I need to adjust my technique and take some lessons.
The Strike takes the cake. Less flex and much more stable hoop, makes a a difference when facing a big serve.
 
I have to agree, forgot to put it into my review... but return of serve is currently my biggest weapon on the court. Bur because it helps the ground strokes and because the serves aren't consistently well placed AND 110 mph (though some can do one or the other).
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
What tension are you guys stringing your Pure Strikes at if you are using a poly? I usually string my 18x20 at 50lbs but if it's a 16x19, I usually go with 56lbs.
 

Jim A

Professional
I Went from 57 on my GSP to 53 on the PS17, both with Tour XC.

Played another 2 sets with it yesterday - the first real match play and really enjoyed it.
What I'm not sure about is after 2 of the 3 hits I've had some residual pain in the elbow the next day. it's about the same stiffness as the GSP and strung a little lower with a soft poly, slightly more head heavy. I am trying to hit with more spin so that is a key possibility??

What I like most so far is that I'm getting some additional spin (a big opportunity for me) while keeping the ball somewhat flat - that was what I really liked seeing in the video review prior to ordering.

I'll probably try a DR98/DR100 sometime during the winter but the PS17 is really impressing me and has been easy to transition.


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I started at 44 (which is what I was using in 16x19 frames) and have worked up to 56/54. I have a history of massive elbow pain with Wilson blx 18x20 and tbh, have just returned to to the 18x20 string pattern. The control is insanely better and I need the power bleed. The advent of softer poly's has let me go up in tension. My other frame currently has blast at 54 all the way (other PS 18x20). I don't think I will be going up any from here.
 

Serjojeee

Rookie
I tried multy 17 at 60 - it was a nice blend of power and spin, then pro hurricane 17 at 60 and didn't like it (super low powered for unleaded setup, but not harsh) till it losen up a bit. Now I leaded it up a bit and going to try signum pro poly deluxe - more slippery poly then pro hurricane and hopefully more spinny.
 

DANMAN

Professional
Hit for the second time today. I can absolutely maul serves with this frame and was hitting better with the Luxilon ALU after it loosened up. I am still wanting to try a gut hybrid and something like a thin tour bite soft. I find I hit a flatter backhand, good slice, and ridiculous kick serves with this frame. My forehand has a different type of spin. It gets up high and heavy but it is a tight spin that doesn't clear the net by a lot. This thing is a rock at the net and hits a mean overhead. Babolat really hit the nail on the head with this frame.
 

Serjojeee

Rookie
Spend some time comparing the ps 18x20 to the p17 prototype, and it looked very different - small changes everywhere, higher twistweight, another mass distribution. And an open string pattern, more open then classic pure drives had but the sweet spot is in the center of the string bed and. And nowhere near as closed as ps18x20.
 

rh310

Hall of Fame
What tension are you guys stringing your Pure Strikes at if you are using a poly? I usually string my 18x20 at 50lbs but if it's a 16x19, I usually go with 56lbs.
51x48. I feel I hit better with the DR98, but everyone on the other side of the net says I hit a better and heavier ball with the PS17.
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
51x48. I feel I hit better with the DR98, but everyone on the other side of the net says I hit a better and heavier ball with the PS17.
The DR 98 is a solid racquet with a crisp feel. How does it compare to the PS 17 in terms of plow, stability, hollow, and maneuverability? I had the DR 98 but stuck to my Blade 18x20 because it was easier to generate racquet head speed and was a bit more plush.
 

Mareqnyc

Hall of Fame
What tension are you guys stringing your Pure Strikes at if you are using a poly? I usually string my 18x20 at 50lbs but if it's a 16x19, I usually go with 56lbs.
I do 55/53 full poly. 53/51 when I know its really low powered like Black Shark.
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
Just got a demo of ps17. Unfortunately again it's strung with multi (like my graphene speed pro touch demo). String is 16 gauge addiction.
Despite the string just hitting against the wall so far I can say that reviews cannot be that far off as I am getting that good feeling about this frame. Even with multi this frame feels better than speed pro for me, even though they are not that far off but graphene does something to my elbow even if I'm not known to have elbow issues. Ps17 had this muted solid feel without harsh feedback whatsoever...

Also my 2 cents: Now I have an idea why Thiem is not switching to this frame. I own 18x20 ps and Basically this frame really is fixed up old strike. As an example ps17 stock with crappy strings (addiction) and no dampener of any kind = modified old Pure strike with lead at 3 and 9 and gut poly hybrid and a rubber band. So for a pro it's not worth switching since other people do modifications for him to make it feel like a better more stable racquet than it already is. While for people that do not want to modify their racquet and don't care to spend $40+ for gut ps17 comes in. And stock for stock it is a better racquet.

For me it's rare to use racquet without dampner but this one is really not needed

In addition to old strike 18x20 I also own blade 18x20 pro staff classic 18x20 and dr98 so I will compare when I get some court time in.
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
@dgoran - looking forward to your comparison between the 2015 18x20 blade. I am surprised a dampener isn't necessary as even my the Blade 98 I use requires one otherwise I feel the ping of the racquet.
 

gino

Hall of Fame
So I'm working on a pretty cool experiment. I love the Pure Strike and it's 6.1-ish feeling continues to astonish me. I decided I am going to do everything I can so replicate the weight distribution of the Babolat PS17 to match that of the Wilson 6.1 series.

Below are some photos of my latest modification that replicates the size/location of the Wilson PWS and weight distribution in the hoop. Let me know what you guys think about this. One thing I noticed is that the string spacing is noticeably different. The distance of the PWS takes up 3 crosses on the PS17 and the PWS on the Wilson 6.1 series takes up 4 crosses.

Hopefully it's something my other 6.1 junkies on the forum will try and replicate (@bkr, @SC in MA , @smalahove , @Wilhelm , @dkappelman , @Tuskarr ):





I am really hopeful that this will be the final step in creating a modern alternative to the 6.1 line. Yes, I am aware a ton of ATP/WTA players are using the 6.1 under other fake cosmetics (Burn, Burn FST, Pro Staff line, etc). But, I think the Pure Strike evokes a lot of the similar performance benefits provided by a Wilson 6.1, but also, the PS17 provides modern player's frames benefits that the Wilson 6.1 doesn't (larger sweet spot, more forgiving, more spin potential, etc).
 

rh310

Hall of Fame
The DR 98 is a solid racquet with a crisp feel. How does it compare to the PS 17 in terms of plow, stability, hollow, and maneuverability? I had the DR 98 but stuck to my Blade 18x20 because it was easier to generate racquet head speed and was a bit more plush.
I'm going to get the PS 17 strung to match the DR 98 (an option not available when I picked up the Babo) and I'll have a better idea. Right now, I feel there's generally more plow, stability, and maneuverability with the DR 98. I was having trouble today driving through shots with the Babolat. One clicked, so I know it's in there. Just been easier so far to adapt to the DR 98.

They're both great feeling frames. I'm worried it's going to come down to preference, and I'm not going to know what to do. :)
 

SC in MA

Professional
I'm another guy coming from the Wilson 6.1 (2014, 16x18), though I've played with a number of the previous iterations. I've hit about 6 hours with the PS17, (2 sets with a typical hitting partner and 2 practice sessions), and have come away impressed. Just for reference, I'm a 4.5 player, baseliner, with my forehand as my main weapon, good serve, with a mostly slice backhand.

I used the exact same string setup on the PS17 as I did with the 6.1 (Mantis Power Polyester 17 @ 51 main/ Dunlop S-Gut @ 54 cross) and I felt right at home.

On forehands, I think there is some added spin and power vs the 6.1, but the stability and control remain excellent if not better. I could place the ball exactly where I wanted and perhaps felt even more confident in taking big cuts at the ball with the PS17. When I hit the first few balls, the launch angle took some minor adjustment, but within 15 minutes I was completely fine. Redirecting the ball down the line off a cross court shot was an absolute dream come true. I think that the PS17 is lighter and has the same or better control / stability allowed me redirect with complete confidence.

I mainly slice my backhand. This actually took more of an adjustment with the PS17. The stringbed is a little bit livelier than the 6.1, so there was some tendency for my slices at first to sail a little bit long and maybe float a little bit more than expected. I'm not really concerned here because some adjustment is to be expected and I think I am getting more dialed in with each session.

When I do hit my 2-handed backhand, which is probably about 20% of the time, things seemed pretty good. This is the shot for me where the racquet felt maybe even a little bit stiffer than the 6.1. Overall it's tough for me to comment on this because it's not the strong point of my game and it's probably better to ask someone who relies a lot more on their 2-hander.

Serving felt great. No real adjustment needed on my end. I think oddly on the serve there was a little more control, but perhaps slightly less power than the 6.1. I'm not sure if this makes sense, but it was my perception. It also might have been the balls I was playing with that day, which just seemed kind of slow for whatever reason, so time will tell. Definitely not a step backwards.

My volleys were more or less the same. Things didn't feel a whole lot different, which I'll consider a good thing.

I don't demo a ton of racquets, but have been looking to switch to something new after Wilson discontinued the 6.1. I broke two 6.1 frames this year while serving (just slipped right out of my hand in 100 degree heat) and they are getting a little tricky to find. I tried the RF97 when it first came out and it was too much for me. I definitely considered switching to it, but at the end of the day it took too much effort play well with it. I also tried the PS97 and did not like it at all compared to the 6.1. The PS97 didn't have the control I was looking for, the ball really flied on me way more than it should have with that racquet.

To sum up, I've played with various versions of the 6.1 (starting the PS Classic 6.1) for 15 years and the PS17 to me feels pretty similar. In some sense, it seems like a more modern take on the 6.1. If Wilson had released this as the new 6.1 I wouldn't have batted an eye. My current thought is I will probably switch the the PS17, but I want to give it another 10 hours or so before I go out and buy another 3 of them.
Great review. I received mine and played 3 sets of doubles yesterday. I'll write up a more complete review later, but basically I concur with the main points of your review as well as the reviews/comments of @gino and @bkr when comparing to a 6.1. I'm greatly looking forward to more court time with this racket, probably tomorrow.
 

DANMAN

Professional
I don't get the DR comparisons other than similar offerings from competing brands. I don't find they feel or play similarly at all. I get much more pop on serves and spin on serves with the strike, the strike is more lively throughout the string bed, time it feels way better at the net, and I find the strike is more spin friendly and achieves a higher launch angle.

Weirdly the window where I can go all out with the strike is a little small. I found some balls barely clear the net with a low trajectory and others I fly a foot or two out. It's due to having played with a Blade 98S I presume as the launch angle on it was different than any other frame I have ever played.
 

Mareqnyc

Hall of Fame
Hit for the second time today. I can absolutely maul serves with this frame and was hitting better with the Luxilon ALU after it loosened up. I am still wanting to try a gut hybrid and something like a thin tour bite soft. I find I hit a flatter backhand, good slice, and ridiculous kick serves with this frame. My forehand has a different type of spin. It gets up high and heavy but it is a tight spin that doesn't clear the net by a lot. This thing is a rock at the net and hits a mean overhead. Babolat really hit the nail on the head with this frame.
I'm going to get the PS 17 strung to match the DR 98 (an option not available when I picked up the Babo) and I'll have a better idea. Right now, I feel there's generally more plow, stability, and maneuverability with the DR 98. I was having trouble today driving through shots with the Babolat. One clicked, so I know it's in there. Just been easier so far to adapt to the DR 98.

They're both great feeling frames. I'm worried it's going to come down to preference, and I'm not going to know what to do. :)
Add 10-15g to the handle in Babolat (leather grip, Wilson Shock Shield grip or lead/blu-tack) It really makes it play much better in my opinion. Specifically if you like the DR98. The weight in the handle will give the PS similar balance and swing weight to the DR98, see if that works for you.
 

Mareqnyc

Hall of Fame
I don't get the DR comparisons other than similar offerings from competing brands. I don't find they feel or play similarly at all. I get much more pop on serves and spin on serves with the strike, the strike is more lively throughout the string bed, time it feels way better at the net, and I find the strike is more spin friendly and achieves a higher launch angle.

Weirdly the window where I can go all out with the strike is a little small. I found some balls barely clear the net with a low trajectory and others I fly a foot or two out. It's due to having played with a Blade 98S I presume as the launch angle on it was different than any other frame I have ever played.
They are very different racquets indeed, I guess the point is that some guys (including myself) love both PS and Dr98 and it is hard to decide which one to stick to. I play very well with both.
 

Mareqnyc

Hall of Fame
So I'm working on a pretty cool experiment. I love the Pure Strike and it's 6.1-ish feeling continues to astonish me. I decided I am going to do everything I can so replicate the weight distribution of the Babolat PS17 to match that of the Wilson 6.1 series.

Below are some photos of my latest modification that replicates the size/location of the Wilson PWS and weight distribution in the hoop. Let me know what you guys think about this. One thing I noticed is that the string spacing is noticeably different. The distance of the PWS takes up 3 crosses on the PS17 and the PWS on the Wilson 6.1 series takes up 4 crosses.

Hopefully it's something my other 6.1 junkies on the forum will try and replicate (@bkr, @SC in MA , @smalahove , @Wilhelm , @dkappelman , @Tuskarr ):





I am really hopeful that this will be the final step in creating a modern alternative to the 6.1 line. Yes, I am aware a ton of ATP/WTA players are using the 6.1 under other fake cosmetics (Burn, Burn FST, Pro Staff line, etc). But, I think the Pure Strike evokes a lot of the similar performance benefits provided by a Wilson 6.1, but also, the PS17 provides modern player's frames benefits that the Wilson 6.1 doesn't (larger sweet spot, more forgiving, more spin potential, etc).
Can you list the exact mods for the Babolat? I see you put Tungsten tape on 3-9 with the Strike? I thought in order to match the balance of the 6.1 all you need is like 20g in the handle?
 

gino

Hall of Fame
Can you list the exact mods for the Babolat? I see you put Tungsten tape on 3-9 with the Strike? I thought in order to match the balance of the 6.1 all you need is like 20g in the handle?
i added a leather grip which adds about 13g to the handle. The tungsten at 3 and 9 is supposed to simulate the weight distrubtion of the PWS. I don't intend to match the exact weight/balance of the stock 6.1 95. Just the weight distribution.
 

Mareqnyc

Hall of Fame
i added a leather grip which adds about 13g to the handle. The tungsten at 3 and 9 is supposed to simulate the weight distrubtion of the PWS. I don't intend to match the exact weight/balance of the stock 6.1 95. Just the weight distribution.
I see. Keep everyone posted how it plays!
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
You guys are just making me get the racquet instead of waiting for the demo from TW. The reviews seem so good. Been looking for a 16x19 racquet that plays close to my Blade 98 18x20. If it does, I am going to switch on the account that it will be a lot easier to string the racquet.
 

Mareqnyc

Hall of Fame
Absolutely. I am going to play a few sets with the new setup tomorrow night. I will contrast with the stock PS17. Should be some great fun man
I found 15g in the hadle works best, doesnt slow it down, makes it even more stable.
 
I have a teammate coming from a 2013 apd who is torn between the pure aero and the new pure strike based upon all the rave reviews. Can anyone that has tried both the pure aero and new pure strike give some thoughts on how they are compared to each other? He's been trying to look for a demo for the pure strike but he can't get his hands on one.
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
i added a leather grip which adds about 13g to the handle. The tungsten at 3 and 9 is supposed to simulate the weight distrubtion of the PWS. I don't intend to match the exact weight/balance of the stock 6.1 95. Just the weight distribution.
The PWS actually are hollow, there isn't weight added with them (at least not significant amounts). I'd just match the other specs, the twistweight of the Pure Strike is high enough as is (higher than the 6.1 to begin with, so there is more weight at the sides actually).
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
Ok I bought it lol. This one warrants long term demo so worst case one of you guys will get a good deal on it lol
 

prjacobs

Hall of Fame
I have a teammate coming from a 2013 apd who is torn between the pure aero and the new pure strike based upon all the rave reviews. Can anyone that has tried both the pure aero and new pure strike give some thoughts on how they are compared to each other? He's been trying to look for a demo for the pure strike but he can't get his hands on one.
For what it's worth, I went from a 2013 APD to the Pure Aero and after a few months, got rid of the PA. The PA crushes the ball, but for me, it was hard to control. I find the 2013 APD much more versatile, with a lot more feel and accuracy. I also developed wrist pain from the PA, something I never had after playing for decades and was told by a high end retailer in NYC that many of his PA users coming from the 2013 APD experienced similar pain, which like mine, went away after switching back to the 2013 APD. I didn't like the old Pure Strike. I thought it got pushed around and was much less solid than similarly weighted sticks from Head and Wilson at that time. However, I'm going to try the new one. If you read the TW review, Hannah, who used and was very loyal to the 2013 APD, then went to the Pure Aero, raves about the new Pure Strike.


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Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
@gino How do you like the TW tungsten tape compared to regular lead strips? I ask because it looks a lot more expensive - $9 for 9 grams if I am reading the package right. Does it stay stuck to the frame?
 

gino

Hall of Fame
The PWS actually are hollow, there isn't weight added with them (at least not significant amounts). I'd just match the other specs, the twistweight of the Pure Strike is high enough as is (higher than the 6.1 to begin with, so there is more weight at the sides actually).
True -- however, the extra graphite used to create the PWS bulges already gives those two locations extra weight.

Also, the larger diameter (cross section) of the PWS bulges also gives those two locations greater torsional stability than the average cross section
 

gino

Hall of Fame
@gino How do you like the TW tungsten tape compared to regular lead strips? I ask because it looks a lot more expensive - $9 for 9 grams if I am reading the package right. Does it stay stuck to the frame?
@Power Player it is the best tungsten tape on the market, IMO. It's great for people like myself who aren't looking to add a ton of weight, but want to strategically add some extra stability/power to certain sections of the frame. It's expensive, yes, but that's because it's durable. Not only does it stick to your frame, you can peel it off and reapply elsewhere or even to a different frame for that matter. Great product, very stoked for Paul Reed as he led the charge to get the TW TT commercialized and to market
 

SpinToWin

Talk Tennis Guru
True -- however, the extra graphite used to create the PWS bulges already gives those two locations extra weight.

Also, the larger diameter (cross section) of the PWS bulges also gives those two locations greater torsional stability than the average cross section
I'm telling you that your assumption based on logic is false. Twistweight literally is a measure of what you are trying to reason for, the higher the twistweight the more weight there is at the sides of the hoop. The twistweight of the PS already is higher than that of the 6.1, you do not need more weight at the sides.

Check twistweight on Tennis Warehouse University.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
@Power Player it is the best tungsten tape on the market, IMO. It's great for people like myself who aren't looking to add a ton of weight, but want to strategically add some extra stability/power to certain sections of the frame. It's expensive, yes, but that's because it's durable. Not only does it stick to your frame, you can peel it off and reapply elsewhere or even to a different frame for that matter. Great product, very stoked for Paul Reed as he led the charge to get the TW TT commercialized and to market
Awesome. I may buy some then for when I add lead to 12 on frames.
 

XFactorer

Hall of Fame
played 3 sets switching between Pure Strike and Dr98 today. Pure Strike hits a more penetrating aggressive shot, definitely has more spin - I could see how my opponent was late a bunch of times and caught off guard. There was a moment where I started overhitting with the Pure Strike and changed to the DR98 - same strokes, DR98 creates much higher launch angle and the ball still dips down nicely. DR98 is perhaps better for baseline sluggers who wear opponents down hanging out in the back exchanging consistent groundstrokes, Pure Strike is definitely better for more aggressive, attacking tennis. Sticking with my 2 Pure Strikes for now, keeping the DR98 in the bag as as an emergency backup
I found the launch angles on the Strikes to be a tad higher than the DRs. I, too, switched around. I found the Strikes to be easier to move around and to get power. The DR does feel like a club, but not in a bad way. And it never felt like that until I compared it to a Strike. I like to think I'm an aggressive baseliner.

Still need to get me some of those new VCORE SVs to try, though!
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Still need to get me some of those new VCORE SVs to try, though!
Yes! I think the SV's will be a winner. 6 throat mains in a 16x20 plus the Iso shape is money.
The ai98 was a really sweet frame but I didn't like the low launch due to the 8 mains, and it didn't have a ton of spin. Agree with most folks opinions in here on that.

The Pure Strike is a good direction for Babolat to go, but I prefer a more direct feel over the woofer grommets.
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
I just realized what this Racquet feel reminds me of...I was picking my brain and hitting with all my racquets side by side than it dawned on me...
new 2016 Donnay Quad core Pro number one 16x19 Very similar solid stable feel...one thing confused me though. Donnay is foam filled while to my surprise i popped open the buttcap and new p17 is NOT?

Is that just my demo or are they all not foam filled anymore? Can you guys check yours?
 

dgoran

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Forgot to Add quick (probably false) impressions since the string type is different on PS17 vs others

PS 17 vs:
Blade:

Original Strike 18x20

DR98

Pro Staff 6.1 Classic 18x20
 

Mareqnyc

Hall of Fame
I found the launch angles on the Strikes to be a tad higher than the DRs. I, too, switched around. I found the Strikes to be easier to move around and to get power. The DR does feel like a club, but not in a bad way. And it never felt like that until I compared it to a Strike. I like to think I'm an aggressive baseliner.

Still need to get me some of those new VCORE SVs to try, though!
I hit a loopier ball with the DR on every shot. What string setup are you using in the Strikes?
 

Mareqnyc

Hall of Fame
I found the launch angles on the Strikes to be a tad higher than the DRs. I, too, switched around. I found the Strikes to be easier to move around and to get power. The DR does feel like a club, but not in a bad way. And it never felt like that until I compared it to a Strike. I like to think I'm an aggressive baseliner.

Still need to get me some of those new VCORE SVs to try, though!
Aaaahhhhh more racquets! I really think I am good for now... Although Ive been heard saying this in the past :D
 

XFactorer

Hall of Fame
I hit a loopier ball with the DR on every shot. What string setup are you using in the Strikes?
The strike demo came with Wilson NXT 16g at the midpoint - maybe 54 lbs or something. Didn't take quick to break it. I have to restring it w/ Topspin Concept Pure 16g. I fell like I get more rotation on the ball w/ the Strike. Don't know if it's the weight or the strings or whatever. My groundstrokes aren't super spinny to begin with.
 

Mareqnyc

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The strike demo came with Wilson NXT 16g at the midpoint - maybe 54 lbs or something. Didn't take quick to break it. I have to restring it w/ Topspin Concept Pure 16g. I fell like I get more rotation on the ball w/ the Strike. Don't know if it's the weight or the strings or whatever. My groundstrokes aren't super spinny to begin with.
To me Strike hits a more penetrating shot, but DR has higher trajectory and launch angle
 
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