2017 Pure Strike

avocadoz

Semi-Pro
I'm getting a really high launch angle on my forehand and low on my backhand. Is anyone else experiencing the same?
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
I think that if you don't like high launch angle hyper g is not for you. This racquet felt different with spinny strings than with say sin gut or multi.

I think big banger original will be perfect in this one. ps17 has higher launch angle than say 18x20 so combine that with grippy spin poly and you will have maximized launch angle. Some love that I don't.
 

topspn

Hall of Fame
Went to local pro shop today and they say there will be a heavier spec PS coming out. A tour version I suppose
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
Ok I think I'm in 100% now. I'll buy another one and switch to this one as my daily driver. I logged in some more tennis against some good hitters and it was amazingly stable against heavy hitters. It was absorbing any stroke and spitting it out with spin.
I went cheap on the string This time (I had some Wilson ripspin in stock that I bought for $2 each) so it was not my preferred string but at least it was a poly ( btw ps17 looks sick white on white).

What I like about this racquet is that allows for easy defence (ala tweeners pure drive aero pro etc)
In relatively thin beam frame while providing great touch(unlike most tweeners) . Slices are indeed great with this racquet as well as effortless tennis

One of the most notable experience was sudden dip of ball that on several occasions my opponent let it go to out while it dropped in.

I still have to adjust some shots with this racquet. Notably I was holding back a little bit literally afraid of the pop this thing has. Probably because ripspin dropped in tension after first match few days ago. Also serve is still not there missing maybe 20% of both placement and speed to be like my dr98 but it's just different racquets so I have to adjust.

I feel I am gaining confidence daily with this racquet so I think this is it for me. I'll give this a shot (for few months) like a true holic
 

galapagos

Semi-Pro
@dgoran can you tell me if the launch angle was any smaller than with the dr 98? Or its similar but just gives better spin to put the ball back in? It seems many have different opinion on that ;p Will try it myself sooner or later but you know how it is...to be a holic...When I played dr 98 it was great fun but i would have to change my forehand too much and slices were pretty bad compared to my GSP. everything else was cool. I am atm heading more towards blade as my main stick although I'm afraid this wont give me the same pleasure as with GSP-great control,power,spin but lacks the comfort and 350g is too much for me. I guess with blade I get a bit smaller spin,less power but more control,feel and comfort..To trade or not to trade? xD
 

beltsman

Legend
Ok I think I'm in 100% now. I'll buy another one and switch to this one as my daily driver. I logged in some more tennis against some good hitters and it was amazingly stable against heavy hitters. It was absorbing any stroke and spitting it out with spin.
I went cheap on the string This time (I had some Wilson ripspin in stock that I bought for $2 each) so it was not my preferred string but at least it was a poly ( btw ps17 looks sick white on white).

What I like about this racquet is that allows for easy defence (ala tweeners pure drive aero pro etc)
In relatively thin beam frame while providing great touch(unlike most tweeners) . Slices are indeed great with this racquet as well as effortless tennis

One of the most notable experience was sudden dip of ball that on several occasions my opponent let it go to out while it dropped in.

I still have to adjust some shots with this racquet. Notably I was holding back a little bit literally afraid of the pop this thing has. Probably because ripspin dropped in tension after first match few days ago. Also serve is still not there missing maybe 20% of both placement and speed to be like my dr98 but it's just different racquets so I have to adjust.

I feel I am gaining confidence daily with this racquet so I think this is it for me. I'll give this a shot (for few months) like a true holic
What else have you played with? How does it compare to those racquets?
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Ok I think I'm in 100% now. I'll buy another one and switch to this one as my daily driver. I logged in some more tennis against some good hitters and it was amazingly stable against heavy hitters. It was absorbing any stroke and spitting it out with spin.
I went cheap on the string This time (I had some Wilson ripspin in stock that I bought for $2 each) so it was not my preferred string but at least it was a poly ( btw ps17 looks sick white on white).

What I like about this racquet is that allows for easy defence (ala tweeners pure drive aero pro etc)
In relatively thin beam frame while providing great touch(unlike most tweeners) . Slices are indeed great with this racquet as well as effortless tennis

One of the most notable experience was sudden dip of ball that on several occasions my opponent let it go to out while it dropped in.

I still have to adjust some shots with this racquet. Notably I was holding back a little bit literally afraid of the pop this thing has. Probably because ripspin dropped in tension after first match few days ago. Also serve is still not there missing maybe 20% of both placement and speed to be like my dr98 but it's just different racquets so I have to adjust.

I feel I am gaining confidence daily with this racquet so I think this is it for me. I'll give this a shot (for few months) like a true holic
Nice. This sounds like the SV95. What does this frame feel like?
 

rh310

Hall of Fame
Ok I think I'm in 100% now. [....]

What I like about this racquet is that allows for easy defence (ala tweeners pure drive aero pro etc)
In relatively thin beam frame while providing great touch(unlike most tweeners) . Slices are indeed great with this racquet as well as effortless tennis

One of the most notable experience was sudden dip of ball that on several occasions my opponent let it go to out while it dropped in.

I still have to adjust some shots with this racquet. Notably I was holding back a little bit literally afraid of the pop this thing has. Probably because ripspin dropped in tension after first match few days ago. Also serve is still not there missing maybe 20% of both placement and speed to be like my dr98 but it's just different racquets so I have to adjust.

I feel I am gaining confidence daily with this racquet so I think this is it for me. I'll give this a shot (for few months) like a true holic
I'm not quite in 100% yet. I strung one with gut-alu 16 originally, but replaced that with cyclone tour 17 @ 51 x 48 and am not liking it as much.

About halfway through a hit this morning I tossed it aside and picked up a dr98. Will raise the tension a # in each direction and try again.
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
The SW was 317 with Babolat syn gut 16g and after restringing it to Head Hawk Touch 17g, the SW increased to 331. It feels much better and offers a more solid pocketing effect.

After having some time to hit with this racquet, I think it's one of Babolat's better racquets but I think the updated 18x20 Tour version will probably be something to my liking.

The 16x19 string pattern is pretty dense and I had it strung at 53lbs. It definitely has more control than the Pure Drive but I noticed that you have to hit the center of the racquet to get depth on the ball. Otherwise, any balls that were hit near the tip of the racquet will result in a short ball. I might have to play with some lead tape maybe at the tip to increase the sweet spot and boost the power.

It does offer good control for a 16x19 and definitely feels solid for such a light racquet however it will not be replacing my Blade 98 18x20 which I feel has a more generous sweet spot and still hits a better ball for me.
 

JOSHL

Hall of Fame
Pretty much sold on this thing. Got a demo a few days ago and it's a great frame, good control and power. My serve has never been better. Very stable for the weight. The only thing holding me back is wanting to demo the SV98 and SV95.
 

DANMAN

Professional
I still find this frame to offer an excellent blend of power and control and I think it may be the best frame I've ever volleyed with. It is incredibly quick and solid. I like that you can take controlled swings and hit a good deep ball. The cosmetics also stay looking sharp like others have said.

I'd agree with some that the sweet spot isn't huge but I'm a pretty clean ball striker and haven't had significant issues with this.
 

Startzel

Hall of Fame
Pretty much sold on this thing. Got a demo a few days ago and it's a great frame, good control and power. My serve has never been better. Very stable for the weight. The only thing holding me back is wanting to demo the SV98 and SV95.
My buddy's pure drive broke the other day and he got a demo of this, that new green babolat and the new Federer 97s. I liked the PS17 the best and he did as well.

His serve dropped in better as did his ground strokes a lot more than usual. It's a really nice racquet and I love the paint job.

The Federer racquet looks awful in person.
 

rh310

Hall of Fame
The Federer racquet looks awful in person.
Heck, I don't think so. I think it looks badass.

I'm still either going to switch from the TF 315 Ltd 16 to either the PS17 or DR98. After a good hit with the PS17 this morning (freshly strung) I'm leaning back towards the PS.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Heck, I don't think so. I think it looks badass.

I'm still either going to switch from the TF 315 Ltd 16 to either the PS17 or DR98. After a good hit with the PS17 this morning (freshly strung) I'm leaning back towards the PS.
How is the feel compared to the 315?
 

rh310

Hall of Fame
Does the 11.2 have a higher balance point? Be interesting to add .2 to the handle lol.
Both strung with same string, without dampener, but with Wilson Pro overgrip on both:

11.4 oz => 4pts HL.
11.2 oz => 3pts HL.

I'm surprised a difference like that would be noticeable. But I've hit with both frame multiple times now, and the 11.2oz does not feel nearly as good.

I played with them a few times each before taking any measurements, just so I wouldn't pollute my impressions by preconceptions.

Looks like I need 5-6 grams of lead at the handle. Hope that's all it needs. :-(
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Hard to beat the 315 in the feel department, imho.
Yes, agree. That being said I was just curious how good it was at 67 RA. Buttery, pingy, stiff,plush?

It's one of those frames that reminds me a lot of the Yonex vcore xi 98 in terms of being a more controlled pure drive.
 

rh310

Hall of Fame
Yes, agree. That being said I was just curious how good it was at 67 RA. Buttery, pingy, stiff,plush?
Ah. Stiff with the cyclone tour (strung low, so not jarring), more plush with gut-alu hybrid.

What I"m afraid of is that I'll have to put a gut hybrid into this frame, and it'll cost $50+ to string it.

(Although I was completely happy with the 11.4oz one this morning, with the cyclone tour in it.)
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
Ah. Stiff with the cyclone tour (strung low, so not jarring), more plush with gut-alu hybrid.

What I"m afraid of is that I'll have to put a gut hybrid into this frame, and it'll cost $50+ to string it.

(Although I was completely happy with the 11.4oz one this morning, with the cyclone tour in it.)
Thanks. This sounds like the SV95. Stiffer with the Cyclone. Having to put a gut hybrid in the frame for great feel is probably a pass for me. The SV95 plays incredibly well so I'm probably good on trying the Babolat.
 

RafaBabolat

Rookie
I just got the Head Touch Speed Pro, and it's the best. I love the Kraibon dampening, and plows through balls. How does the Pure Strike compare to the head speed line? I'd appreciate the feedback, considering a demo on it.
 

welle

New User
Hi,

so I just got my new PS17 and it came in a little bit light (299g unstrung, balance is 320). After I strung it with tour bite 1,25mm it is at 315g - without dampener or Overgrip. As I currently play a modded Prince Textreme 95 at around 345g (including everything), I would like to put some weight to the PS17.

But I pretty much would like to keep the balance the same and think of adding about 15g in total as a start... I am not very experienced with adding weight (I don't wanna do silicone, should be easy and replacable) and don't really know how much I have to put where in order to pretty much keep balance the same. Do you guys have any suggestion how much lead to put where on the racket?

I will play on Tuesday and will post how it plays :)

Btw: I have a Sony Smart Sensor... there is no way I can use it with Pure Strike right?

Thanks.

W
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
The Pure Stirke sweet spot is in the center of the racquet whereas the Blade has a larger sweetspot. I tend to hit higher up on the racquet for serves and ground strokes and find that when I do, the ball tends to land short with the Pure Strike. I added some lead tape at the top of the hoop but that didn't improve it by much.

@RafaBabolat - Have you hit with the older Graphene Speed Pro or XT version and compare? I like the GSP but didn't like the XT GSP version.
 

prjacobs

Hall of Fame
The Pure Stirke sweet spot is in the center of the racquet whereas the Blade has a larger sweetspot. I tend to hit higher up on the racquet for serves and ground strokes and find that when I do, the ball tends to land short with the Pure Strike. I added some lead tape at the top of the hoop but that didn't improve it by much.

@RafaBabolat - Have you hit with the older Graphene Speed Pro or XT version and compare? I like the GSP but didn't like the XT GSP version.
I found a similar response with the Pure Aero and had to adjust my contact point. (Before I sold it and went back to my 2013 APD)... I'm looking forward to trying the PS.


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bkr

Rookie
The SW was 317 with Babolat syn gut 16g and after restringing it to Head Hawk Touch 17g, the SW increased to 331. It feels much better and offers a more solid pocketing effect.

After having some time to hit with this racquet, I think it's one of Babolat's better racquets but I think the updated 18x20 Tour version will probably be something to my liking.

The 16x19 string pattern is pretty dense and I had it strung at 53lbs. It definitely has more control than the Pure Drive but I noticed that you have to hit the center of the racquet to get depth on the ball. Otherwise, any balls that were hit near the tip of the racquet will result in a short ball. I might have to play with some lead tape maybe at the tip to increase the sweet spot and boost the power.

It does offer good control for a 16x19 and definitely feels solid for such a light racquet however it will not be replacing my Blade 98 18x20 which I feel has a more generous sweet spot and still hits a better ball for me.
Not sure if you have tried to add lead at 3 and 9 as well as just many pros do,this would expand the sweetspot.Agree that going to different frame from Blade type of racquet takes sometime atleast for me less effort with PS to get a deep ball and also spin also helps so less balls going to net for my game.
 
I have the PS2014 18x20. I added just a touch of weight (20mm at 8:00 and 4:00). It has done very well for me. I also switched to a leather grip (babolat- black).

This frame does amazing things for me, to the point that I am thinking about getting a 3rd and 4th since they are cheap atm. But was holding out for the 2016/7 version of the 18x20 because the reviews for the 16x19 have been so positive.
 
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markus666

Rookie
Anyone experienced any discomfort with the the stick? TW review scores highly in therms of confort.
I ve tesed the PS2016 for 30min two days ago, and it was amazing, specially on serve and groundstrokes.I wanna give it a try, but the hight stiffness value scares me me, do you think it s a arm friendly racket or another arm killer like the babolat PD or Pure Aero? Did anyone play for some weeks with it to explain his experience? Thanks in advance
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
Anyone experienced any discomfort with the the stick? TW review scores highly in therms of confort.
I ve tesed the PS2016 for 30min two days ago, and it was amazing, specially on serve and groundstrokes.I wanna give it a try, but the hight stiffness value scares me me, do you think it s a arm friendly racket or another arm killer like the babolat PD or Pure Aero? Did anyone play for some weeks with it to explain his experience? Thanks in advance
No problems for me...even on framing the ball
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
@dgoran can you tell me if the launch angle was any smaller than with the dr 98? Or its similar but just gives better spin to put the ball back in? It seems many have different opinion on that ;p Will try it myself sooner or later but you know how it is...to be a holic...When I played dr 98 it was great fun but i would have to change my forehand too much and slices were pretty bad compared to my GSP. everything else was cool. I am atm heading more towards blade as my main stick although I'm afraid this wont give me the same pleasure as with GSP-great control,power,spin but lacks the comfort and 350g is too much for me. I guess with blade I get a bit smaller spin,less power but more control,feel and comfort..To trade or not to trade? xD
I think its pretty similar just slices were better and stability was a bit better for my one hander. Also maybe psychological but thick hoop beam makes my backhands little bit worse IMHO
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
Nice. This sounds like the SV95. What does this frame feel like?
Feels like 95d and xi98 had a baby. more spin stock for stock higher launch
I just got the Head Touch Speed Pro, and it's the best. I love the Kraibon dampening, and plows through balls. How does the Pure Strike compare to the head speed line? I'd appreciate the feedback, considering a demo on it.
I though it was very good on groundies. I was quicker to adjust to touch too (i like 18x20) more control than ps17, but once I adjusted i thought that tennis was more effortless with ps17 and control came back via more spin. Also more balls dipped in last minute than with 18x20. Each match at least 3-4 points are won where opponent lets to ball go out but it drops in...

Lastly I could not serve well with Touch and I started getting arm pain (elbow) on backhands (I tend to hit little higher and I thought Speed was pretty dead there)
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DANMAN

Professional
Anyone experienced any discomfort with the the stick? TW review scores highly in therms of confort.
I ve tesed the PS2016 for 30min two days ago, and it was amazing, specially on serve and groundstrokes.I wanna give it a try, but the hight stiffness value scares me me, do you think it s a arm friendly racket or another arm killer like the babolat PD or Pure Aero? Did anyone play for some weeks with it to explain his experience? Thanks in advance
It's a very comfortable frame. I'd say it feels like a mid 60s flex (65-66) and plays significantly more comfortably than the drive series.
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
Really it's a firm frame ala yonex vcore and Wilson six one. I don't want to paint it like old school head frames or tec315 cause it's not....but there is no "harmful" vibrations and there is a slight bend to it one can feel if comparing to stiff frame
 

DANMAN

Professional
any one modify this racket? lead ? leather grip?
and how did it play?
Have been thinking about leather or the equivalent amount of lead in the handle to get it a bit more headlight but it's so good stock I'm hesitant to do so.
 

andyN

Rookie
its good stock i agree but i was thing the same, if i can get add just a bit of weight for a bit more plow through,
maybe its my string setup. i have kevlar hybrid with synthetic cross at 53-54ish.
i will try another string setup...
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
Not sure if you have tried to add lead at 3 and 9 as well as just many pros do,this would expand the sweetspot.Agree that going to different frame from Blade type of racquet takes sometime atleast for me less effort with PS to get a deep ball and also spin also helps so less balls going to net for my game.
Adding more lead to 3 and 9 will does expand the sweet spot but not at the top of the hoop. I found it easier to hit balls deeper with the Blade than the PS. I know a lot of people complain about power on the Blade but I find it to be one of the most powerful racquets out there even with a supposedly lower powered string like Head Hawk Touch.
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
It's a very comfortable frame. I'd say it feels like a mid 60s flex (65-66) and plays significantly more comfortably than the drive series.
Totally agree it is way more comfortable than the Pure Drive and doesn't have as much vibration when you strike the ball.
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
Really it's a firm frame ala yonex vcore and Wilson six one. I don't want to paint it like old school head frames or tec315 cause it's not....but there is no "harmful" vibrations and there is a slight bend to it one can feel if comparing to stiff frame
Yes, it still a firm frame by no means is it plush. The only good thing is off mishits it doesn't feel like the Pure Drive. Overall, Babolat did a good job to create a line that offers more stability and is more solid than their current Aero and Pure Drive series. This was probably their intention when they initially came out with the Pure Stirke but they had to go back to the drawing board a second time to get it right.
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
its good stock i agree but i was thing the same, if i can get add just a bit of weight for a bit more plow through,
maybe its my string setup. i have kevlar hybrid with synthetic cross at 53-54ish.
i will try another string setup...
You gonna have to up the SW in order to get more plow on the racquet. I had it with syn gut and SW was 317. With poly it came to 331 so that made it more stable. You will also need to increase the static weight which was around 11oz with syn gut.
 

ONgame

Semi-Pro
I'm expecting the new Pure Strike VS and VS Tour to be made with TW90Score material as well.
But seriously, will the material/technology that made the Pure Strike 2017 work also be in the VS and VS Tour? I hope it's not just a PJ update over the current Pure Controls.
 
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