2017 Pure Strike

parasailing

Hall of Fame
Can you compare the Dr98 and the SV98 in terms of comfort?
Comfort - AI 98 > DR 98 > SV 98

The SV is softer than the older generation D series but still felt stiff. The DR 98 is a more crisp version of the AI 98. The AI 98 is very soft and flexy in the throat area.
 

Corage8

New User
I loved everything about it except a shoulder so sore I can't stay asleep without taking 2 Advils.
Me too!!! I played PS 315 with lead tape ... And I also have a PSRF without the leather.

I am doing tests with weight and balance and it is improving my pains ..
 

rh310

Hall of Fame
I blame Babolat QC on that stupidly low SW. I really don't know what you could do with that... I mean you could maybe get it to 330 at 12.3 oumces??? But yeah, out of luck man. I always have the retailer weight the racquet up so that I get pretty similar racquets before modding. Hope I solved your case with the comfort. At least you know how to use this formula for other racquets and modifications.
From comments made by @Babolat Official*, I think Babolat QC is around total weight. Because, I suppose, it's simple -- and they won't have to throw out so many frames because of balance and swing weight defects.

Since I bought 3 of these frames, Babolat will be greatly pleased with its marketing department, even if I'll forever remember and describe my experience with their frame and QC.

And yes, the information and formula was great. Thank you again.

*https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/2017-pure-strike.571344/page-8#post-10668212
 
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Crie

Rookie
From comments made by @Babolat Official*, I think Babolat QC is around total weight. Because, I suppose, it's simple -- and they won't have to throw out so many frames because of balance and swing weight defects.

Since I bought 3 of these frames, Babolat will be greatly pleased with its marketing department, even if I'll forever remember and describe my experience with their frame and QC.

And yes, the information and formula was great. Thank you again.

*https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/2017-pure-strike.571344/page-8#post-10668212
I'm mostly just echoing the stuff the guy in the video said with some personal experience. At least you know the next time you buy racquets, you have some ways to know they are in spec.
 

Crie

Rookie
Lower SW is better for your game. In that way , you can handle those 120 mph serves
I'm sorry if I come as up front, but shouldn't make misleading comments like "lower SW is better for your game" unless you have seen the person play and have decent coaching experience. The better your fundamentals get, the more SW will make a difference. The higher the SW the easier it is block back shots with less racquet head speed(RHS). Thats why Djokovic can just flick his wrist at 130mph serves, the racquet does more work.

However, there is a caveat with higher SWs: if you have bad mechanics or you try to get your maximum RHS you will injure yourself. I mentioned that the racquet does more work with a higher SW, that means that you can have a lower RHS and still hit balls faster and with more spin. This is why you have to build up tolerance with SWs, I started by going up by 5-10 points every other time I restrung my racquet. Since I use a full western grip, I need a higher RHS and a lower SW(I use 340SW and around 12oz static), but if you use an semi-western or eastern grip you don't need a high RHS and you benefit more from a higher SW(350ish, Djoko uses 370 and 12.5~6oz static weight).
 

Moveforwardalways

Hall of Fame
It's not just Babolat. Every other racquet manufacturer also does not make racquets consistent in weight and balance. The lone exception may be Yonex, who comes the closest. Wilson is particularly terrible about this.
 

Corage8

New User
I just did a fantastic game with my racket, but my shoulder, elbow and wrist are very sore ... That indecision continue with PSO7 or return to PSRF ...

Is there anything I can do to lower the stiffness of the racket?
 

Crie

Rookie
I just did a fantastic game with my racket, but my shoulder, elbow and wrist are very sore ... That indecision continue with PSO7 or return to PSRF ...

Is there anything I can do to lower the stiffness of the racket?
Read my first Recoil Weight post or type "recoil weight tennis racquet tech" in youtube and click on one made by "Racquet Tech"
 

Moveforwardalways

Hall of Fame
I just did a fantastic game with my racket, but my shoulder, elbow and wrist are very sore ... That indecision continue with PSO7 or return to PSRF ...

Is there anything I can do to lower the stiffness of the racket?
The stiffness of the PO7 is not much different than a Wilson Blade. Just because it says Babolat on the side of the racquet doesn't mean it should hurt your joints.
 

Alien

Hall of Fame
So it's been more than a week playing with my PS17 leaded up with 10g keeping balance and trying to get my power to my Blade 98s level. Yesterday I received my second stick and I tested them (now stock vs loaded).

So far I choose the stock one. For the first time in fifteen years it seems I will not be using lead tape on my weapon.

Hit with a solid 5.0 and the power was there. Stability was not a problem and the manouvrability compensated the lower plough as I can swing it faster.

Only caveats are, I didn't serve with the non leaded racquet, and need to play someone who hits without power to check the capability of generating energy out of nothing - vs yesterday player who hit with tons of pace and rpms.
 

Corage8

New User
The stiffness of the PO7 is not much different than a Wilson Blade. Just because it says Babolat on the side of the racquet doesn't mean it should hurt your joints.
I play with a Pro Staff, not the Blade. Although the blade has a rigidity inferior to Pro Staff, and with it also I feel an uncomfortable one. Not like Babolats. I bought PS17 without testing, even though I knew I would take that risk.
 

Mateo

Rookie
Could someone compare PS with Radical Graphene Pro? I am looking to buy PS but didn't like Radical at all. Stiffness, and higher swingweight wore deal breaker for me. If the PS is few "grams" lighter or easier to maneuver it would be great...


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Doc Hollidae

Hall of Fame
For what level of player is this racquet for? Is it more demanding than a Blade 18x20?
Personally I think this racket fits a large range of players. It's light enough for beginning and intermediate players and stable enough for advanced players with bigger strokes. I think most advanced players would end up adding some weight to the handle to make the racket a tad more HL though.
 

Mateo

Rookie
Personally I think this racket fits a large range of players. It's light enough for beginning and intermediate players and stable enough for advanced players with bigger strokes. I think most advanced players would end up adding some weight to the handle to make the racket a tad more HL though.
Could you compare HH of the PS ? For ex blade 18x20 HH or lighter easier to swing?


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Doc Hollidae

Hall of Fame
Could you compare HH of the PS ? For ex blade 18x20 HH or lighter easier to swing
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I think you're asking to compare the balance to the Blade? I haven't hit with a Blade since the Kblade so I can't say for sure, but according to the TW specs the Blade is 1 HH more than the PO7.

Personally, the balance of the Blade is a turn off for me. The PO7 in stock was too HH for me too. After a few grams of lead on the handle and a leather grip, the balance was much more playable.
 

Mateo

Rookie
Yes, the Blade was ok, but as a Radical pro after let's say 30min the HH balance of this two makes me tired. Ai98 was great with balance so if PS is similar in that division or little bit more HH I could live with that.


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Crie

Rookie
The balance of the Blade racquets are so low because they are supposed to be modified. Its really nice to see a 330SW racquet under 11.5 ounces
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
The balance of the Blade racquets are so low because they are supposed to be modified. Its really nice to see a 330SW racquet under 11.5 ounces
It is nice to have a high SW racquet that is around 11oz that you can customized to your liking.
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
Personally I think this racket fits a large range of players. It's light enough for beginning and intermediate players and stable enough for advanced players with bigger strokes. I think most advanced players would end up adding some weight to the handle to make the racket a tad more HL though.
Yes it needs some additional weight to make it more like a club.
 

Pandaroo

New User
I currently play with a Yonex Vcore 97 (310) and I just bought the PS17 without testing as no demo available given the limited stock here in Australia. Having a hit with it tomorrow night to see how it feels.
 

Mateo

Rookie
+1 I will collect my PS also without testing, hoping that for the weekend I will be satisfied on the court.
 

Alien

Hall of Fame
Trained yesterday with a guy who plays a la Simon, that is a pusher without any power. I was able to generate mine with my unleaded PS17, so I am satisfied. Threfore my power is is kind of back (my forehand swing could be a bit longer now, will have to film myself).

Next, I need to recover the pace in my serve and I will be settled. Only then I will puy my Blades on sale.
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
Djoko uses 370 and 12.5~6oz static weight
I'm going to switch to a racquet with Djokovic's specs just as soon as I figure out how to switch to his body too.

I just played for an hour with the new Strike today. It hits a good ball when I get everything right, but I still haven't adapted to the feel and behavior if my timing or contact point is off. I still find it less forgiving than, for example, the Pro Staff 97 or Prince Tour 100. I also still find the stiff-but-muted feedback unusual, but I could probably get used to that.
 

Mateo

Rookie
Curious what you could do to lower the swingweight if you needed to?
When I had W Blade 18x20 leather grip was must and to me it did play better with it.

I have bought PS and stock with strings 317g and with dumper and over grip it is 324g.

When I swing it, it feels a lot easier to swing than Radical Pro Graphene. (Blade also)
Testing for weekend.


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MixedMaster

Semi-Pro
I finally was able to hit with the new Strike 100 last night! I only was able to get about 20 minuets in, but I enjoyed my initial hit with it. I've been using the the original Strike 100 sisnce they came out and have enjoyed the stick. I think the new version is a good improvement. It had more plow through, spin, and control. There was also very little vibration on off center hits compared to the original. I'm going to hit a little more extensively with it over the next couple of weeks just to make sure it is worth investing in. I'm probably going to ask our pro if I can tinker with it and put some lead here and there to see the effects. So far I'm impressed.
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
Just remember this isn't your typical 16x19 frame. The stringbed is much tighter and one should string it at a lower tension. Typical 16x19 tension for me is around 56lbs and I had this strung at 53lbs and didn't like how tight the stringbed felt so I lowered it to 44lbs and it felt much better.

The stringbed is almost as dense as my 2015 Wilson Blade 98 18x20. I wonder how the 18x20 Pure Strike Tour is going to be like when it comes out early 2017.
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
Curious what you could do to lower the swingweight if you needed to?
The only way I know of to lower SW is to cut the grommet or cut the length of the handle. Only issue is lowering SW isn't a good ideal as it will affect stability especially if you hitting against players who put heavy topspin on the ball.
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
I agree with OP it is not any more difficult to use than the 2015 Blade. I just prefer the depth and control of the Blade over the Pure Strike.
 

morten

Hall of Fame
I am exited to try this frame. . How is it for volleys and finesse shots ? Although i will probably wait for the tour version as i like heavy rackets.. or the 18×20 and lead it and put on leather grip..
 

Tuskarr

Semi-Pro
Pure strike seems to have more durable paint than normal. Dont have any chips, from digging out low balls, on mine after a couple months of use
 

Q452

New User
Currently demoing the 98 and the 100. Control really good on 98, still good for a 100 sq inch on the 100. Spin was a little disappointing on 98 but I'm used to a sharp shaped poly and they came strung with some poly in the mains and a multi in crosses. Feel on contact was a tad stiff feeling while being muted. However, I had no arm problems because of the muted vibrations. Really liked them, would choose the 98 over 100 because of the control. Now to decide between purchasing this and the pro staff 97 I'm trying out..
 

McLovin

Legend

parasailing

Hall of Fame
I always got them mixed up. The Pure Strike already has a pretty dense string pattern so this is going to be interesting how stiff the string bed is when the 18x20 shows up.
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
Google is your friend. I typed in 'pure strike vs tour'...and Voila!

But note: It is, for all intents & purposes, the Pure Control Tour, as confirmed by @Babolat Official here:
The Pure Strike VS Tour has a similar cosmetic/graphic as the new PS, but has a darkish grey base colour instead of white.
 
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