2017 Rome Masters - General Discussion

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mightyrick

Legend
Awesome match. Says a lot about Sam that he served horribly in that tiebreak and took it all the way to 9-7. I don't recall seeing a single first serve in?
I didn't, either. He hit some great shots but absolutely terrible serving. Zero first serves in the tiebreak. And now we get to watch Thiem get straight-setted again versus Nadal.

Querrey / Nadal would have at least been something different than the last few times we've watched Nadal / Thiem.
 

merwy

Legend
I didn't, either. He hit some great shots but absolutely terrible serving. Zero first serves in the tiebreak. And now we get to watch Thiem get straight-setted again versus Nadal.

Querrey / Nadal would have at least been something different than the last few times we've watched Nadal / Thiem.
I'm not too excited about that match-up either.. On the other hand, almost no one can pose a realistic threat to Nadal on clay now and I guess Thiem has got a higher chance than Querrey to beat Nadal (although both have odds close to zero)
 

mightyrick

Legend
Nadal v Thiem 3.0. This is Thiem's best chance to defeat Nadal. The clay looks slower and has a lower bounce compared to Madrid and Barcelona. Having said that, Nadal will raise his game to play him.
And why does Nadal have to raise his level at all? Thiem just barely escaped an old, American hardcourt specialist in a tiebreak. All Nadal needs to do is show up and play his game and he will straight-set Thiem again.

If Thiem wants to win, he needs to add a weapon. He does not have the tools to beat an in-form Nadal.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
And why does Nadal have to raise his level at all? Thiem just barely escaped an old, American hardcourt specialist in a tiebreak. All Nadal needs to do is show up and play his game and he will straight-set Thiem again.

If Thiem wants to win, he needs to add a weapon. He does not have the tools to beat an in-form Nadal.

:confused:
 

mightyrick

Legend
I just want to see good and interesting tennis. If Sock would have beat Nadal... then Sock / Thiem would have been an interesting match. Nadal / Querrey would have been something different.

Nadal / Thiem is about as interesting as Nadal / Ferrer back in the old days. I've had enough of this matchup in the last couple months.
 
Wishful thinking?
Im a Rafa fan saying this. Regardless of Moya being in Rome he is capable of winning it BUT he looks MUCH better with Moya. My opinion is that he looks kinda under prepared tactically with Uncle Toni. It is no coincidence that Rafa has played well this year with the addition of Moya. He started to stink under Toni in the last 2 years. Facts mate.
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
He made Thiem play. Querrey looks ready for Davis Cup against Belgium on clay.:p Isner and Sock must be on notice too from Captain Courier for their singles spots.:eek:
I didn't see the Thiem-Querrey match but just saw the score and I'm surprised. How did a non-clay entity like Querrey, a guy who does better on a grass court, take the clay demon Thiem to three close sets? This explanation should be good. ;)
 

TheGhostOfAgassi

Talk Tennis Guru

Both played well enough on return. Thiem got off the hook as Querrey could not hit a first serve.:confused: Thiem ground it out.:p
Good Thiem has ice running through his veins :D How he pulled this off another time is super impressive. I didnt watch much of the Rafa match, but from what I saw I dont think Rafa looked as dangerous as he was last matches in Madrid, he got broken once by Sock.
 
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wy2sl0

Hall of Fame
Tell me what he is doing to the ball boys that is shameful? did he do something today?

Djokovic is not phony. Thing is with him, is that he is a fierce competitor. He gets angry with himself and sometimes has a tough time to control it. But my interest is what did he do to the ball boys? What are you talking about?

A couple of occasions he has raised his voice for a towel through the course of his career, but is it directed towards the ball boy? No. He doesn't mean any harm.
Are you kidding? Grabbing the towel from them and yelling come on, come on towel towel. Just everything. His demeanour.

Says a lot about those of you that support him blindly. That is all I will say. To each their own, I was raised differently I guess.
 

clayqueen

G.O.A.T.
Im a Rafa fan saying this. Regardless of Moya being in Rome he is capable of winning it BUT he looks MUCH better with Moya. My opinion is that he looks kinda under prepared tactically with Uncle Toni. It is no coincidence that Rafa has played well this year with the addition of Moya. He started to stink under Toni in the last 2 years. Facts mate.
Most definitely hiring Moya is the best thing Rafa has done. I don't know why it took him so long since Moya retired. Moya is a perfect fit. He is from Rafa's neighbourhood and is practically family. I won't criticise Toni, because he made Rafa the tennis player that he is, but when you've been with someone for so long you are set in your ways and one thing I would criticise Toni for, is letting Rafa think he is not as good as he is and making him feel inferior to the other players. Fed, Djoko and Murray feel they can't lose or shouldn't lose and that's helped them; whilst Rafa thinks he can lose to anyone.
 
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Del porto lost to peakovic no shame

But djokovic is nowhere near his his peak but it should be interesting
2011 Djokovic was incredible. That is truly his peak not 2015 as some people think. I thought 2015 was a poor field , in 2011 he beat a fresh and close to prime Nadal and Federer was playing great as was Murray. 2015 competition stunk the place out. Its bit similar to this year. Dont think the competition has been all that great. Nadal and Federer should not be winning tournaments with such regularity as they are.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
I didn't see the Thiem-Querrey match but just saw the score and I'm surprised. How did a non-clay entity like Querrey, a guy who does better on a grass court, take the clay demon Thiem to three close sets? This explanation should be good. ;)
The Destroyer on court until TB:rolleyes:
Destroyer's recent dossier;):
9 / 2017 Acapulco Hard
F W Rafael Nadal 6-3 7-6(3)
SF W Nick Kyrgios 3-6 6-1 7-5
QF W Dominic Thiem 6-1 7-5
R16 W David Goffin 6-2 6-3
R32 W Kyle Edmund 6-2 4-6 6-3
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
I didn't see the Thiem-Querrey match but just saw the score and I'm surprised. How did a non-clay entity like Querrey, a guy who does better on a grass court, take the clay demon Thiem to three close sets? This explanation should be good. ;)
The serious explanation is Thiem came out flat and got broken immediately against an if form Querrey. That wasn't enough to motivate Thiem who was just along for the ride until the 2nd set. Thiem had to pull a lot of shots out of his nether regions to take this match. Thiem started the match up returning first serves near the line and Querrey was disposing of his deep bunts from both sides with alarming regularity. Thiem dropped back further and went heavier later in the match which did help him not get smoked by Querrey's groundies. In this match when Thiem looped defensive topspin with out a lot of depth Querrey simply was eating it for breakfast. Thiem finally got his feet moving later in the 2nd set and made a match of it. A lot of stupid shots in the shakier Querrey serve games did not help matters as generally Querrey saw the Thiem drop shots coming. Thiem sort of started out the 3rd set tie-breaker well, but was not hitting first serves so Querrey kept breaking back to get in it plus at least one Querrey first return did damage and Querrey had set point at 6-5 on his own serve, but Thiem prevailed.

Your clay fav Raomug takes on Zed tomorrow; any thoughts?:D
 

cc0509

Talk Tennis Guru
Meles, post: 11218349, member: 706609"The serious explanation is Thiem came out flat and got broken immediately against an if form Querrey. That wasn't enough to motivate Thiem who was just along for the ride until the 2nd set. Thiem had to pull a lot of shots out of his nether regions to take this match. Thiem started the match up returning first serves near the line and Querrey was disposing of his deep bunts from both sides with alarming regularity. Thiem dropped back further and went heavier later in the match which did help him not get smoked by Querrey's groundies. In this match when Thiem looped defensive topspin with out a lot of depth Querrey simply was eating it for breakfast. Thiem finally got his feet moving later in the 2nd set and made a match of it. A lot of stupid shots in the shakier Querrey serve games did not help matters as generally Querrey saw the Thiem drop shots coming. Thiem sort of started out the 3rd set tie-breaker well, but was not hitting first serves so Querrey kept breaking back to get in it plus at least one Querrey first return did damage and Querrey had set point at 6-5 on his own serve, but Thiem prevailed.
Ok, if you say so. ;)

Your clay fav Raomug takes on Zed tomorrow; any thoughts?
I have no idea but you better hope that NextGen big deal Zverev doesn't lose to this Raonic who hasn't been playing a lot recently due to injury or you'll never hear the end of it from me. :p
 

TheMusicLover

G.O.A.T.
Yet again no chance at watching the matches today.
Two favs of mine losing but I can't be all too sad about that.

Wawa = Wawa, and he looked off right from the start of this tournament, so no surprise to hear he lost against a decent - who was it this time, LOL.

As for Goffin... true worries, here. Looked already tired at the beginning of this tournament, no wonder, as he's been playing some 9, 10 tournaments already this year?
Serious worries of him having overplayed. Read he had some tigh massage halfway his match today... oh damn.
Sounds like a possible injury. Take time to properly heal, David!
 
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