2018-19 NHL Road To The Stanley Cup

Yeah, that looked terrible last night. Like they got up 2-0 and stopped playing. No offence, no forecheck, no puck possession. Very concerning. SC playoffs can turn on a dime, but the Blues better figure it out quickly or they're toast.
It's been a Blues staple for a long time. They'll get a small lead and just bleed the game away with their physicality and elite goaltending. More times than not it has worked. Usually versus finesse style teams like Chicago or Dallas (in the past, but this year Dallas pretty much tried the Blues blueprint). It is almost impossible to sustain it long enough to win 16 playoff games though. Eventually you'll meet a team every bit as physical as you and too talented on the offensive side to just sit on leads. The Predators Cup run crashing down versus Pittsburgh is another good example of such. Though Pittsburgh wasn't really a mirror to the Predators, they were just so good at scoring you couldn't keep them off the sheet no matter what you did. Much like the 3x Chicago cup winning teams.

That's exactly what Boston brings to the table. You might be able to sit on a 2-0 lead versus a Dallas or San Jose. You cannot versus Boston. They will find those same gritty goals you do and I think they're better at scoring than St Louis is. They also have a better powerplay and as good as Binnington has been Rask's stats have actually been better these playoffs.

The Bruins are essentially a direct mirror to the Blues. Rask to Binnington. Chara to Parayko. Explosive skilled offensive players on both sides. Boston is just a better version of St Louis is my thought. Doesn't mean the Bruins can't be upset, but it would be that, an upset.
 
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Steve0904

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It's been a Blues staple for a long time. They'll get a small lead and just bleed the game away with their physicality and elite goaltending. More times than not it has worked. Usually versus finesse style teams like Chicago or Dallas (in the past, but this year Dallas pretty much tried the Blues blueprint). It is almost impossible to sustain it long enough to win 16 playoff games though. Eventually you'll meet a team every bit as physical as you and too talented on the offensive side to just sit on leads. The Predators Cup run crashing down versus Pittsburgh is another good example of such. Though Pittsburgh wasn't really a mirror to the Predators, they were just so good at scoring you couldn't keep them off the sheet no matter what you did. Much like the 3x Chicago cup winning teams.

That's exactly what Boston brings to the table. You might be able to sit on a 2-0 lead versus a Dallas or San Jose. You cannot versus Boston. They will find those same gritty goals you do and I think they're better at scoring than St Louis is. They also have a better powerplay and as good as Binnington has been Rask's stats have actually been better these playoffs.

The Bruins are essentially a direct mirror to the Blues. Rask to Binnington. Chara to Parayko. Explosive skilled offensive players on both sides. Boston is just a better version of St Louis is my thought. Doesn't mean the Bruins can't be upset, but it would be that, an upset.
I think you've got it pretty much bang on. More offensive firepower is probably going to win this for the Bruins. Their top line is the best line in the league IMO, certainly over a number of years, and they're all defensively responsible. Their PP is much better than STL. Such ridiculous puck movement. And they just come in waves and have this uncanny knack for making something out of nothing. Marchand, for as big a clown as he is, is an amazing hockey player. So shifty, and they have a few others just like him. It sounds simple, but the play can look absolutely dead and all of a sudden the puck is in front of the net, gets tipped and jammed in by a big body like Debrusk or Kuraly or Krejci and it's a goal. Like you say, STL has that too, but not to the same extent really. Guys like Tarasenko, Schwartz and O'Reilly don't quite match Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak, Coyle, Johansson and the rest.

Rask and Binnington should cancel each other out, not good for STL. STL might have a slight edge on defence, but Krug and McEvoy are really good too. Chara's been exposed as slow a few times in these playoffs, but even if you get around him you have to deal with that "illegally" long stick, and he's always paired with one of Krug or McEvoy and their speed to mask the lack of his own.

I know it's only 1 game, but Boston looks faster than STL too. All kinds of problems abound for the Blues.
 
I think you've got it pretty much bang on. More offensive firepower is probably going to win this for the Bruins. Their top line is the best line in the league IMO, certainly over a number of years, and they're all defensively responsible. Their PP is much better than STL. Such ridiculous puck movement. And they just come in waves and have this uncanny knack for making something out of nothing. Marchand, for as big a clown as he is, is an amazing hockey player. So shifty, and they have a few others just like him. It sounds simple, but the play can look absolutely dead and all of a sudden the puck is in front of the net, gets tipped and jammed in by a big body like Debrusk or Kuraly or Krejci and it's a goal. Like you say, STL has that too, but not to the same extent really. Guys like Tarasenko, Schwartz and O'Reilly don't quite match Bergeron, Marchand, Pastrnak, Coyle, Johansson and the rest.

Rask and Binnington should cancel each other out, not good for STL. STL might have a slight edge on defence, but Krug and McEvoy are really good too. Chara's been exposed as slow a few times in these playoffs, but even if you get around him you have to deal with that "illegally" long stick, and he's always paired with one of Krug or McEvoy and their speed to mask the lack of his own.

I know it's only 1 game, but Boston looks faster than STL too. All kinds of problems abound for the Blues.
Agreed with all of this. One other thing I forgot to mention which I think is big is that Boston not only starts at home but I am of the opinion it's much more daunting playing in Boston than St Louis. St Louis made a lot of their Cup run off of being elite on the road, so if they don't steal Game 2 it is going to be too big a hill to climb because I don't see St Louis holding serve at home every time. St Louis isn't a very scary place to play. I was actually more worried about Dallas' home games against them than I was the road games, funnily enough. (I'm a 20+ yr long Stars fan, unfortunately. Lol).
 

Steve0904

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Agreed with all of this. One other thing I forgot to mention which I think is big is that Boston not only starts at home but I am of the opinion it's much more daunting playing in Boston than St Louis. St Louis made a lot of their Cup run off of being elite on the road, so if they don't steal Game 2 it is going to be too big a hill to climb because I don't see St Louis holding serve at home every time. St Louis isn't a very scary place to play. I was actually more worried about Dallas' home games against them than I was the road games, funnily enough. (I'm a 20+ yr long Stars fan, unfortunately. Lol).
Yeah, STL's home record isn't that great in the playoffs is it?

It could be worse. You could be a Leafs fan like me lol. Do you remember the Stars '99 Cup? I was 8 years old then. It's the first SC Finals series I sort of remember watching. Hasek stood on his head as usual, but IIRC, Buffalo were a low seed and pretty big underdog vs the Stars. I had no rooting interest, but I still say that was No Goal. :p

I still love hockey today of course, but that was such a fun time to watch. Forsberg, Sakic, Hejduk, Patrick Roy, and watching Bourque lift the Cup. Yzerman, Federov, Shanahan, Lidstrom. The Leafs actually having a team that could win at least one playoff round with all those old guys on their team. Sundin, Roberts, Niewendyk, Cujo, Owen Nolan, Belfour. I loved watching them beat the Senators every year back when it was a real battle of Ontario.

Poor Senators. It didn't matter how many points they got or where they finished, the Leafs beat them every year in however many games it took. I guess Boston is paying them back now lol.

The only thing I hated was the years Jersey won the Cup. They were so boring with that Trap.
 
Yeah, STL's home record isn't that great in the playoffs is it?

It could be worse. You could be a Leafs fan like me lol. Do you remember the Stars '99 Cup? I was 8 years old then. It's the first SC Finals series I sort of remember watching. Hasek stood on his head as usual, but IIRC, Buffalo were a low seed and pretty big underdog vs the Stars. I had no rooting interest, but I still say that was No Goal. :p

I still love hockey today of course, but that was such a fun time to watch. Forsberg, Sakic, Hejduk, Patrick Roy, and watching Bourque lift the Cup. Yzerman, Federov, Shanahan, Lidstrom. The Leafs actually having a team that could win at least one playoff round with all those old guys on their team. Sundin, Roberts, Niewendyk, Cujo, Owen Nolan, Belfour. I loved watching them beat the Senators every year back when it was a real battle of Ontario.

Poor Senators. It didn't matter how many points they got or where they finished, the Leafs beat them every year in however many games it took. I guess Boston is paying them back now lol.

The only thing I hated was the years Jersey won the Cup. They were so boring with that Trap.
Yep started watching them the year before the cup. The avs stars rivalry was epic. I still am salty about losing the next year to the Devils.

Interesting factoid about the Hull goal I didn’t learn til this year when I rewatched the game and read YouTube comments was apparently there was a memo sent out over that season where if you do not lose established position in the crease it’s a legal goal if you score in it. So by the letter of the law in terms of the memo it was a good goal. That whole situation was just a mess because the nhl was trying to amend a rule that would have made the Hull goal illegal but it was technically legal.
 

Steve0904

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Yep started watching them the year before the cup. The avs stars rivalry was epic. I still am salty about losing the next year to the Devils.

Interesting factoid about the Hull goal I didn’t learn til this year when I rewatched the game and read YouTube comments was apparently there was a memo sent out over that season where if you do not lose established position in the crease it’s a legal goal if you score in it. So by the letter of the law in terms of the memo it was a good goal. That whole situation was just a mess because the nhl was trying to amend a rule that would have made the Hull goal illegal but it was technically legal.
I'm only joking really. You know that anyway. But I have heard that explanation before. Like you said it was just a mess because they tried to change the rule halfway through the season and then everyone in the viewing public screamed no goal and it took off from there.
 
I'm only joking really. You know that anyway. But I have heard that explanation before. Like you said it was just a mess because they tried to change the rule halfway through the season and then everyone in the viewing public screamed no goal and it took off from there.
I honestly didn't even know about the explanation, I always just assumed it was an illegal goal we got away with lol. At least it wasn't a Game 7 where elimination was on the line for both teams. I think more times than not Dallas wins that game / series anyway, we were just a little better. We kind of got it the other way around the next year losing 2 or 3 OT games to NJ. Ugh. NJ was only there because Scott Stevens killed Eric Lindros and changed the entire course of the series vs Philly.

1999 was the year my mother passed away, I was 6. Right after, Dallas/Michigan State Basketball won it all. They haven't since. I definitely think she was throwing me a few bones there. ( I ended up graduating from Michigan State a few years ago).

Dallas had a good team this year. I wish they had the offense of 2015-2016 with the defense/goaltending of this season. That would be a cup winning team. But now we fixed the defense and goaltending and can't score anymore. Heavy sigh.
 

Steve0904

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I honestly didn't even know about the explanation, I always just assumed it was an illegal goal we got away with lol. At least it wasn't a Game 7 where elimination was on the line for both teams. I think more times than not Dallas wins that game / series anyway, we were just a little better. We kind of got it the other way around the next year losing 2 or 3 OT games to NJ. Ugh. NJ was only there because Scott Stevens killed Eric Lindros and changed the entire course of the series vs Philly.

1999 was the year my mother passed away, I was 6. Right after, Dallas/Michigan State Basketball won it all. They haven't since. I definitely think she was throwing me a few bones there. ( I ended up graduating from Michigan State a few years ago).

Dallas had a good team this year. I wish they had the offense of 2015-2016 with the defense/goaltending of this season. That would be a cup winning team. But now we fixed the defense and goaltending and can't score anymore. Heavy sigh.
Dallas was definitely the better team and deserved to win anyway. Hasek was just unbelievable, and it was too bad in ended in such controversy.

Scott Stevens should've been suspended way more often than he was, but that was such a different era. Felt like the NHL was following the WWF/E sometimes. Attitude Eras all over the place.

Colorado beating NJ in 2001 is still one of my favourite hockey moments. Too bad the upstart Ducks never pulled it off a couple years later too.
 
A Celtics fan, yet not a Bruins fan? I suppose you are not a homer?
Celtics are the only Boston team I root for. I have a weird selection of sports teams that all started around me being 5-7 and I stuck with em since lol.

So fittingly the one team I do root for is the one Boston team that won't win it all this year. Still think Bruins win.

Don't have a rooting preference in this one, don't really like either team.
 
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stringertom

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Four goals in the first 15 minutes but the Blues clamped down on defense from that point forward for their first ever Cup Final victory. Go Blues!

#ABBARM
 

clout

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Celtics are the only Boston team I root for. I have a weird selection of sports teams that all started around me being 5-7 and I stuck with em since lol.

So fittingly the one team I do root for is the one Boston team that won't win it all this year. Still think Bruins win.

Don't have a rooting preference in this one, don't really like either team.
I don’t mind the Red Sox and Celtics, but the Bruins and Pats are another story lol
 

stringertom

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The Blues rebound after their Game 3 disaster to win their first ever Cup Final home game, 4-2 (EN goal sealed it) and knot up the series before heading back to Beantown.

Chara will be a bit uglier (hard to imagine, no?) on Thursday night after leaving the game due to a biscuit to the grill.

St. Louis gave up another SH goal, their fourth in this year’s playoffs. That has to be fixed.
 

Steve0904

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Huge win for the Blues! They really imposed their physical will on this game and kept Boston hemmed in their zone for very long stretches. They're actually a more physical team than Boston IMO. I could really see the physical toll STL is dishing out paying off in games 5 and 6 and potentially 7.
 

dParis

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Chara is taking a beating by puck thus series. I think towards the end of game 1 he took a puck which split open his forearm, then last night's to the face. It had to be even worse than it looked if it kept him on the bench for the third period.

I thought this would be Boston in 5 and if it goes 6, it probably goes 7. I still think they take it. I will be interested to see how Binnington responds as the pressure ratchets up even higher.
 

CCNM

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I'm a Penguins fan, and they lost in the first round. I guess I'd like to see the Bruins win.
 
Wow the Blues are doing it. Gutsy stuff. Would love to be wrong bout Bruins winning

Edit: Bruins making a late push. Need to hold on
 
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dParis

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Brutal no-call on the Blues trip just before their second goal.

But Bruins just score to make 2-1!
 

Steve0904

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The objective part of me knows the Blues got away with one. The biased part of me says "Couldn't have happened to a nicer team /sarcasm (if it wasn't clear)" :D

Bruins will get 6 or 7 PPs next game though to make up for that non call. And STL has already had something like this happen to them against SJ, funny enough, when they lost a game on a glove pass. Interestingly after that game St Louis had more than double the PPs than SJ over the rest of the series IIRC.
 
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clout

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That was an atrocious no-call and the Blues totally got away with one right there.....buuuttt then again it went against the Bruins so just like with the Warriors current injuries, they get no sympathy from me. ;)
 

stringertom

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<3 the replay angle of the goal and celebration with the tripped Bruin still not up on his skates.

#FourBlindMice
 

MajesticMoose

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Blues game last night was nasty. STL got all pumped up and thought they were gonna win it last night. Over hyped themselves. Now it's going to a do or die game in Boston. It really is a coin flip at this point. STL will be devastated if they let this slip through their fingers.
 

hollywood9826

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STL post dispatch mistankingly ran a advert congratulating them for winning the cup.

The Jinx is on. Sorry St Louis, maybe the Cardinals can make the playoffs.
 

tennytive

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Last night the Blues played like they thought the Cup would be handed to them for "participating". Bruins wanted it more and played that way, all out effort to win.

Both got what they deserved.
 

dParis

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At the beginning of the series I asked if both teams could lose. I've developed a scenario that could be the next best thing.

St. Louis wins the game in contoversial fashion, much like game 5 but worse. That's two tainted victories in the series that only homererest homers could call legit, forever bringing shame to their ill gotten Cup.

Meanwhile, Bruins fans react to the loss in such a manner that brings shame and ridicule to the franchise, erasing any consolation they might have received.
 
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clout

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Blues win!!! Seeing Marchand's disappointed face be on the verge of tears was gold.

Congrats to an amazing St. Louis team who literally started from the bottom in Janurary and just 6 months later, are Stanley Cups champs. Binnington is gonna be a special player for years to come and it was great to see fantastic players like Tarasenko, Pietrangelo, Bouwmeester, Steen, Bozak, Scheen, and of course the playoff MVP, Ryan O'Reilly, finally lift the cup after several years of shortcomings.

Also, seeing 11-year old Laila Anderson hoist the Stanley Cup with the team she passionately cheers for made me shed a tear or two.
 
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stringertom

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Blues win!!! Seeing Marchand's disappointed face be on the verge of tears was gold.

Congrats to an amazing St. Louis team who literally started from the bottom in Janurary and just 6 months later, are Stanley Cups champs. Binnington is gonna be a special player for years to come and it was great to see fantastic players like Tarasenko, Pietrangelo, Bouwmeester, Steen, Bozak, Scheen, and of course the playoff MVP, Ryan O'Reilly, finally lift the cup after several years of shortcomings.

Also, seeing 11-year old Laila Anderson hoist the Stanley Cup with the team she passionately cheers for made me shed a tear or two.
#ABBARM.

Blues now my second favorite team, after NYI.
 
My Bruins have failed me
Boston has the Blues, news at 11. Love that Jagrmeister ad
Blues win!!! Seeing Marchand's disappointed face be on the verge of tears was gold.

Congrats to an amazing St. Louis team who literally started from the bottom in Janurary and just 6 months later, are Stanley Cups champs. Binnington is gonna be a special player for years to come and it was great to see fantastic players like Tarasenko, Pietrangelo, Bouwmeester, Steen, Bozak, Scheen, and of course the playoff MVP, Ryan O'Reilly, finally lift the cup after several years of shortcomings.

Also, seeing 11-year old Laila Anderson hoist the Stanley Cup with the team she passionately cheers for made me shed a tear or two.
#ABBARM.

Blues now my second favorite team, after NYI.
Marchand is upset
 
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