2018 Acapulco - ATP 500

Who will win the tournament?


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ACE of Hearts

Bionic Poster
I really try to not dislike tennis players, but something about zverev is just so Unlikeable, especially standing on the same court as someone like del potro.

Same as well. I will never root for the guy. I felt the same way about roddick when he used to play.
 

Federer and Del Potro

Bionic Poster
Good bye, Young Z.

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Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
World Number #5 Zverev still yet to make a tour final since winning the 2017 Canadian Masters back in August.

World number 2, 3, 4 and 5 all yet to win a title this year. Not great.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
So despite all this talk about the next gen once again, we have a final between 31 year old Kevin Anderson and 29 year old Juan Martin Del Potro.

Ah good stuff as always.

Indeed, 3 of the 4 finalists this weekend are either 30+ or fast approaching it (Delpo and RBA both turn 30 this year).

What's that phrase again? The Old Guard Marches On! :cool:
 
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All the more reason why the top players should be winning them as used to be the case!
Shouldn't big titles (m1000 and up) be the goal for the top players as some say?
One of them was a clay tourney so it might not be a high priority for a top player to even attend.
Plus Acapulco final features two top 10 players...
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Shouldn't big titles (m1000 and up) be the goal for the top players as some say?

Of course but ANY tournament they participate in are legitimate goals and winning the smaller events is the best possible preparation for landing the bigger ones. Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Wawrinka etc. all often targetted one or other of the February 500 events and often won them, Fed winning 2018 Rotterdam for instance .
 
Was Sascha playing 5 -6 feet behind the base line for most of this match?

Because that’s his game because he really can’t take the ball really early and you have to be able to do that if you’re going to stand on or close to the baseline.

Del Potro played an consistently solid match here. He neutralized some Zverev CC lasers by slicing his BH to get back into points and Zverev wasn’t able to break down the Delpo BH. Delpo also closed well at net in the match, completely calm each time up there and closed points in a manner Zverev could only dream of doing consistently. They both came out hitting a ton and Zverev was the first one to begin making errors giving Delpo an opportunity.

Delpo also returned some Zverev serve bombs and made Zverev play points he probably thought he had won and frustrated Zverev. Delpo’s serve was heavy and though not really super well placed most of the match, he was able to elicit excellent 1st FH opportunities from PLUS positions all throughout as Zverev’s return isn’t all that great.

Lastly, Delpo’s reach/stretch FH was superb. This isn’t the FH on the complete run but the one he moves to his FH side, takes one BIG step into it, reaches and hits an angled CC FH with power. This shot disarmed Zverev several times; Delpo struck it beautifully tonight.
 

zagor

Bionic Poster
So despite all this talk about the next gen once again, we have a final between 31 year old Kevin Anderson and 29 year old Juan Martin Del Potro.

Ah good stuff as always.

Don't think anyone even hypes them much anymore besides Meles, the extreme tennis evolution crowd and well the media (it's their job). They shouldn't stop at Milan tourney, might as well have a whole separate tour for them so we can see who's the tallest midget.

It's beyond ridiculous to blame the big 4 (which right now are down to one 36 year old) for the next/mid-gen lacklustre results at this point. I don't ask them to have ATG level talent but they're not even good as your 2nd tier great players like Hewitt, Chang, Courier, Safin, Roddick etc.

Maybe one of them winning a slam will open the floodgates or something but I'll believe that when it happens.
 

Zodd

Hall of Fame
Just caught the extended highlights, so glad delpo schooled him.
That little kid just oozes entitlement, and lack of class - not even a hint at an apology for that unreachable net cord at 3 -1 in the 2nd.

The thing to note here is that Zverev was getting owned by dropshots again.

yeah that's quite joyful to watch - the guy can't read droppers to save his life
 
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Tennisgods

Hall of Fame
Don't think anyone even hypes them much anymore besides Meles, the extreme tennis evolution crowd and well the media (it's their job). They shouldn't stop at Milan tourney, might as well have a whole separate tour for them so we can see who's the tallest midget.

It's beyond ridiculous to blame the big 4 (which right now are down to one 36 year old) for the next/mid-gen lacklustre results at this point. I don't ask them to have ATG level talent but they're not even good as your 2nd tier great players like Hewitt, Chang, Courier, Safin, Roddick etc.

Maybe one of them winning a slam will open the floodgates or something but I'll believe that when it happens.

It’s hard not to despair to be honest. Someone needs to break through and I don’t mean winning a Masters and then losing early in the 250 two weeks later. I mean a proper run, at least consistently reaching later stages of Masters, Slams. No one’s even managing that. The lack of any consistency is appalling.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Of course but ANY tournament they participate in are legitimate goals and winning the smaller events is the best possible preparation for landing the bigger ones. Federer, Nadal, Djokovic, Murray, Wawrinka etc. all often targetted one or other of the February 500 events and often won them, Fed winning 2018 Rotterdam for instance .
In fairness Fed had a reason for playing 2018 Rotterdam ;)
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Tbf there haven't been that many important tournaments yet. One slam and four ATP500s?

All the more reason why the top players should be winning them as used to be the case!

Shouldn't big titles (m1000 and up) be the goal for the top players as some say?
One of them was a clay tourney so it might not be a high priority for a top player to even attend.
Plus Acapulco final features two top 10 players...
If they hadn’t been playing tournaments then sure i'd give them a pass but:
Dimitrov played Brisbane, Aus Open, Rotterdam and Dubai.
Zverev played Aus Open, Rotterdam and Acapulco
Cilic played Pune, Aus Open and Rio.

They've all had their chances to win titles (except for Nadal). Instead of one of the top 5 winning those tournaments, we had: Kyrgios, Simon, Schwartzman, RBA/Pouille and Anderson/DelPo scoop the titles.
 

Krish872007

Talk Tennis Guru
World Number #5 Zverev still yet to make a tour final since winning the 2017 Canadian Masters back in August.

World number 2, 3, 4 and 5 all yet to win a title this year. Not great.

Not great at all, but with that said the Rankings are a slightly lagged indicator of results and I would still say Nos. 2-5 deserve to be where they are right now (maybe Zverev is over-ranked). If their poor form persists it should be reflected in the results in a couple of months.

#2 holds 2 Slams & 2 Masters, which sounds about right
#3 is slightly more questionable, but has still made 2 of the last 3 Slam Finals, losing to the #1 on both occasions.
#4 holds 1 Master title and the WTF title - enough to keep him afloat
#5 holds 2 Masters titles

I agree that our problem is that (#1 Federer aside), none of these titles have been won in the last 3 months or so. Dimitrov has not started the year that well either despite winning the last big event of 2017.
But the real problem in the tour comes in the bracket just below the current Top 5, from places 6-50. It features several injured players and/or headcases, as well as several other "younger" guys who should be regularly challenging for the Top 4-5 spots.
 

FHtennisman

Professional
Yep, I'd still say so. Of course Cilic has other advantages such as a much better BH and on average serve.

Fair enough. Personally, I think Cilic is a little better movement wise on grass in the last year and overall too. HC, overall probably Delpo is better but over the last year Cilic for me.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
It's hilarious that Zverev absolutely has no clue how to respond to Del Po's endless slice.

How can any player get into the top 5 without having any clue on how to hit rally balls against slice? It was really unbelievable how inept Zverev was not only on drop shots but a complete inability to respond to Del Po's slice. I'm sure Juan Martin watched Fed destroy Zverev in the Halle final with both those shots.

Zverev has a nice serve (though not great for his height) and a very good BH, but very little else. He has been overhyped to a ridiculous degree and seems to be regressing as we speak.
 

Ripster

Hall of Fame
Zverev reminds me of Murray at the beginning of his career. Has all the shots and talent but doesn't know how to use it. And he ends up getting waxed sometimes because of it.
 
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