Sysyphus
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Interesting, not sure I'm understanding what you mean. Are you referring to his racquet drop?
Some have also pointed out that his pronation isn't very good through contact:
Heh, yeah I see we found the same video.
2018 Acapulco R1 Nishikori vs Shapovalov
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Interesting, not sure I'm understanding what you mean. Are you referring to his racquet drop?
Some have also pointed out that his pronation isn't very good through contact:
Heh, yeah I see we found the same video.
Forehand_Slice
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Shapovalov finally breaks
Sysyphus
Talk Tennis Guru
Not that I know of. At least his stance probably doesn't have anything to do with injuries — he's been experimenting back and forth with pinpoint and platform for several years, so he just seems really confused about it.
Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
that seems like a really serious thing for a pro of his level to be confused about
i'm surprised he hasn't found a coach or any kind of tennis guru to help him in this area
metsman
Talk Tennis Guru
he has noted serve specialist Michael Chang! (Chang's serve was not bad for his size though)
Red Rick
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I'm talking about the image at 3.10 in the video, compared to Del Potro. I think that's the biggest thing, though the other things certainly contribute as well.Interesting, not sure I'm understanding what you mean. Are you referring to his racquet drop?
Some have also pointed out that his pronation isn't very good through contact:
Heh, yeah I see we found the same video.
The pronation is definitely there, but in another direction, so he hits more on top of the ball, and I think that's having less of a throwing motion and more of a stretch arm and pronate motino. He doesn't throw it like a lasso so to speak.
Then there's definitely a lack of hip action, and I also think his motion isn't very explosive hear cause his knees are bent so deeply when he's moving to a pinpoint stance.
Legend of Borg
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maybe mike can teach him how to cheese his opponents with the underhand serve
Sysyphus
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I'm still not quite sure what you mean here?
Legend of Borg
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ooh is this the young fed side of shapo?
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Chadillac
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Really wish they would show a replay
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
Shoulders and elbow aren't in a straight line. His elbow is below that. Almost all great servers have that in one line.
metsman
Talk Tennis Guru
this is more a combo of Fognini and Mac
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
Takes some balls to make that call vs Shapovalov
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Chadillac
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Shap is probably done
Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
that BH doe
another UE and a DF for good measure
players WILL figure him out soon, can he adapt to this?
another UE and a DF for good measure
players WILL figure him out soon, can he adapt to this?
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
Shapovalov is the easiest dude to figure out. It's only now players are bothering enough to exploit it.
Sysyphus
Talk Tennis Guru
Right, his elbow is a bit low in the trophy pose. Yes, I agree it should probably preferably be a bit higher, though I don't think it's entirely unusual to have it a bit lower than parallell with the shoulders:
Sparlingo
Hall of Fame
not yet
Sparlingo
Hall of Fame
And starting to rally a lot better
prairiegirl
Hall of Fame
Can someone tell me what happened to make Denis so upset? I didn't see that part.
Red Rick
Bionic Poster
Not entirely unusual. But I'm pretty sure it's also not optimal. Back before the yips he had it a lot more straight and he definitely served bigger then.Right, his elbow is a bit low in the trophy pose. Yes, I agree it should probably preferably be a bit higher, though I don't think it's entirely unusual to have it a bit lower than parallell with the shoulders:
Sparlingo
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Two bad calls in a game. The second one would have given him the game. I'm on Shapo's side as he has a very good eye.
But down a set. And 1 break might not be enough against returner like Nishi.
Sparlingo
Hall of Fame
He's player stronger right now
Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
yea up a break since a few minutes ago
he was double faulting like a fiend and shanking backhands before that break
he's unstable
Sparlingo
Hall of Fame
81 degrees for non communists
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Chadillac
Guest
81 is perfect. 90+ is hot
Sparlingo
Hall of Fame
81 is hard on us cold blooded Canadians
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Chadillac
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Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
i really wanna see a fed-shapo showdown
that'd be something
that'd be something
He has gone from his awful Delray Beach level closer to his solid normal level.
prairiegirl
Hall of Fame
Unstable? What a silly comment. Inexperienced. I have to listen to German commentary right now!
Sparlingo
Hall of Fame
Are they still gloating over that hockey game?
I would also say he is unstable. How can you call easy hold followed by 4 doubles in another game different than unstable?
EloQuent
Legend
it will happen, eventually
Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
excuse me, at least address me if you're going to call my comment silly
and yes, he's unstable
flashy winners followed by consecutive double faults and shanks
Sparlingo
Hall of Fame
Came close in Basel.
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