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Wow, why not let Pouille and Gasquet play? They probably would be a bit better than this.
Oh I see Gasquet is injured. Pouille and Monfis were still available, right?
Wow, why not let Pouille and Gasquet play? They probably would be a bit better than this.
Wawrinka on grass lol. Hold up one hand if you like the French; hold up your other hand if you are FrenchDumb move by the French. Considering respective forms, the entire team were always gonna be underdogs against Cilic regardless of surface (he even had really good results on clay this year, and yes even Cilic can't choke against this lot). They should have focused on getting 2 wins on Coric and doubles, and play this on grass instead. Same story as in 2014 again, they didn't learn their lesson after they decided not to go for indoor hard/ grass against Stan and got seriously burnt.
Wawrinka on grass lol. Hold up one hand if you like the French; hold up your other hand if you are French
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maybe they hoped for a 'leconte effect' (cf. his win over sampras in the 1991 final) but it didn't work that way...The French shouldnt have chosen clay.And another thing is why you put Tsonga who have played few matches this year against the best Croatian player.It doesnt make sense at all
So Coric, who won as many matches on grass in one week as he did during his entire clay season, just fluked the Halle title???Dumb move by the French. Considering respective forms, the entire team were always gonna be underdogs against Cilic regardless of surface (he even had really good results on clay this year, and yes even Cilic can't choke against this lot). They should have focused on getting 2 wins on Coric and doubles, and play this on grass instead. Same story as in 2014 again, they didn't learn their lesson after they decided not to go for indoor hard/ grass against Stan and got seriously burnt.
Pouille could beat Cilic tomorrow. he has enough power to do just thatWow, why not let Pouille and Gasquet play? They probably would be a bit better than this.
I agree that chardy would have creamed Coric easily on grass. chardy really owns coric on super fast surfacesSo Coric, who won as many matches on grass in one week as he did during his entire clay season, just fluked the Halle title???
Also, exactly how many indoor grass courts exist in the world? Would they have petitioned Wimbledon or Halle to allow the tie to be played there? You can’t just grow a grass court for a weekend of play.
Homer Simpson “D’oh!” moment. smh
I think you will get your wish tomorrow. Tsonga is injured and won't play and chardy proved he suck on clay. so Pouille and Gasquet is INDumb move by the French. Considering respective forms, the entire team were always gonna be underdogs against Cilic regardless of surface (he even had really good results on clay this year, and yes even Cilic can't choke against this lot). They should have focused on getting 2 wins on Coric and doubles, and play this on grass instead. Same story as in 2014 again, they didn't learn their lesson after they decided not to go for indoor hard/ grass against Stan and got seriously burnt.
I think you will get your wish tomorrow. Tsonga is injured and won't play and chardy proved he suck on clay. so Pouille and Gasquet is IN
I forgot Gasquet is injured. Look for Benoit Parie to put a beat down on Coric in 5th rubber and become the hero. on sundayGasquet isn’t even there nevermind on the roster.
I forgot Gasquet is injured. Look for Benoit Parie to put a beat down on Coric in 5th rubber and become the hero. on sunday
Unless the rules have recently been changed I don’t believe he’s an option either. The options are Mahut, Herbert, Pouille, Tsonga, Chardy.
Revisionist analysis...before yesterday the h2h was 2-1 Chardy, 1-1 on clay and 1-0 on HC.I agree that chardy would have creamed Coric easily on grass. chardy really owns coric on super fast surfaces
It looks like Lucas Pouille vs Marin Cilic in the 4th rubber tomorrow. and Noah said he is still thinking about who will play the 5th rubber if Pouille does win. I think if 5th rubber is live then, Tsonga will want to play, even if he isn't 100 %
I agree that chardy would have creamed Coric easily on grass. chardy really owns coric on super fast surfaces
It looks like Lucas Pouille vs Marin Cilic in the 4th rubber tomorrow. and Noah said he is still thinking about who will play the 5th rubber if Pouille does win. I think if 5th rubber is live then, Tsonga will want to play, even if he isn't 100 %
LOL, Croatia will still manage to choke this one.
I knew it.
Do you have this great match on high definition replay ? thanksmaybe they hoped for a 'leconte effect' (cf. his win over sampras in the 1991 final) but it didn't work that way...
Definitely Pouille. Noah has said in interviews that he will wait for doctor's advice about whether Tsonga can play. This is a diplomatic move as a gesture to Tsonga so that when he is replaced Noah can say it is on doctor's orders rather than for form reasons. Nice diplomacy from Noah and will help with team chemistry.
The last doubles day was really an amazing day of tennis and the adrenaline from the crowd was incredible to watch.
We will never see this particular type of electrifying Davis Cup format again now thanks to the Fast Food style new DC format in the new year.
Croatia will win imo. Maybe not easily (you never know when Noah is in control). Coric is on another level at the moment. Credit the French for the great doubles effort to carry the event into a live third day.
it will be tough for lucas. Queery beat cilic but queery has power to blow away anybody but lucas is more of steady playerDefinitely Pouille. Noah has said in interviews that he will wait for doctor's advice about whether Tsonga can play. This is a diplomatic move as a gesture to Tsonga so that when he is replaced Noah can say it is on doctor's orders rather than for form reasons. Nice diplomacy from Noah and will help with team chemistry.
The last doubles day was really an amazing day of tennis and the adrenaline from the crowd was incredible to watch.
We will never see this particular type of electrifying Davis Cup format again now thanks to the Fast Food style new DC format in the new year.
Croatia will win imo. Maybe not easily (you never know when Noah is in control). Coric is on another level at the moment. Credit the French for the great doubles effort to carry the event into a live third day.
it will be tough for lucas. Queery beat cilic but queery has power to blow away anybody but lucas is more of steady player
That umpire has nice butt. anyway, lucas serving just as big as querry, around 138 mph. how does a short guy do this ?Exactly. Pouille will find it very difficult to hang with Cilic. Different story with the Destroyer Querrey. On his day, Sam can beat anyone anywhere with his power and attacking game.
Is it me or is Marin tighter than a Trump undershirt?
I dunno about Trump undershirt but this is the same situation as 2 years ago for him.
I dunno about Trump undershirt but this is the same situation as 2 years ago for him.
This is a completely wrong view on that match 2 years ago.
Marin actually played a great match against Delpo and he didn't lose his gameplan and composure until the fifth set. When he started to play 'va banque' which was not a good idea. Unfortunately, he did have a chance in that fifth set, though the match was completely open regardless of that break he got (it was at the beginning of the set).
It was Delpo who was raising his game throughout the match and who from one moment on would not let his serve broken until the fifth set.
Marin was playing unbelieveably well for the first two sets, this is a level which is hard to maintain throughout the whole match. He was still playing really well until the fifth set, but Delpo nevertheless got to 2:2. It was Delpo's credit.
Delpo is a champion, he was worth multiple GS's if it wasn't for the injuries and surgeries. He's simply a better player than Marin even with everything that happened to him.
Which brings us to today. Pouille is not Delpo. French have that huge audience support in Lille and it's something that may help a domestic player, but Marin is completely on his own on this match. He decides the winner.
Cilic 2-0 up and 1 set from winning the Davis Cup. Have we seen this before?
Lol stream froze on the last match point. Croatia wins
Yes.
It was a beautiful lob for the match and the cup. Cilic plays it rarely instead of a passing shot, obviously he saves such stuff for special moments lol.
I agree with almost everything you said except I do believe that Marin tightened up psychologically in that fifth set two years ago. His body language said he didn’t want to be on court anymore and he saw his loss as a foregone conclusion.
Obviously today is a lot different. Marin can play at his average level and he’s probably going to win this match.
Did he win it with a lob? Shades of Murray doing the same against Goffin in the 2015 final!![]()
Marin unfortunately never thought he needed psychological sessions, at least as far as I know. He's basically tense practically in any match against any opponent of the tour level. Only when his shotmaking works so well that he feels he cannot be hurt he becomes relaxed in the match. He was tense today, too. However he's still able to play some top tennis when he's in a good form, regardless of him being tense. Probably this was the curse why he never wanted to work on his mental aspect with some professional lol. He was still good enough for certain achievements. Obviously the potential to get yet better wasn't good enough motivator to him. Perhaps his background from Herzegovina lol, those folks down there are very traditional and patriarchal, and taking some psychological sessions and excercises doesn't look too masculine lol.
With all that being said, I still think Delpo was the reason why he lost that match, not Marin.
Anyway this cup will I believe fill him with confidence for the future. He got here with the last DC match he played being losing to Querrey. In front of home crowd. On clay. Which was of course a complete choke, he was a mess. Still he was able to play two perfect matches away from home at this finals. Possibly the home pressure is stronger - domestic crowd not just wanted the 2016 win - they expected it. They demanded it. When looking through this lense, Marin's performance was top notch back then. Most of local fans here are plain stupid IMO, they don't understand tennis enough, but they are way too demanding. They don't appreciate enough what's good, but are very judgemental about what isn't. Nothing is good enough, wins are taken for granted but each loss is considered being a choke and the loser is ridiculed. IMO this cup is more than local fans actually deserved lol. However those who are true supporters shall really both enjoy and appreciate it. A big welcome celebration is about to happen here.
Don't think it was apparent while watching, but huge attendance? 24,000 last year in this stadium on the final day. "In 2014, a record-breaking 27,448 fans watched Roger Federer lift the Davis Cup title – the biggest crowd ever to watch a tennis match."Did he win it with a lob? Shades of Murray doing the same against Goffin in the 2015 final!
Congrats to Marin and Team Croatia for their country 's 1st Davis Cup title since 2005!!![]()
He's the third one from the right, next to Pavić. Looks odd on this pic though.
i think he's between -----ic and ------icI don't recognise Dodig on this picture. Is he there?
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I don't know where to post this, I can't find a thread about Lucas himself, so I'll post it here since it's kinda related.
Pouille posted this a few minutes ago:
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Edit: He already deleted it. Hopefully, he was drunk (?)
Edit pt.2: Not drunk, just hacked@mods can you please delete this post, it was a false alarm
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That Henry Leconte is insane good. I had no idea he was that good, always knew he was very talented though. I wonder if he played in current era, how high he would be ranked ?maybe they hoped for a 'leconte effect' (cf. his win over sampras in the 1991 final) but it didn't work that way...
bravo croatia... for winning the last DC !![]()
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unfortunately, some soccer jerks took the pot away...![]()
maybe they hoped for a 'leconte effect' (cf. his win over sampras in the 1991 final) but it didn't work that way...