2018 French Open QF: RAFA (1) vs DieGOAT (11)

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Nadal15thslam

Hall of Fame
He is not Nadal hater.He is just mocking some Nadal fans.According to them Nadal have never lost match when healthy.Always excuses from them when he loses some match
He had some matches where he lost because he was injured but obviously there are a lot more where the oponent was just better. No shame in admiting that.
 

ultradr

Legend
Nadal down a set and a break. What can turn the tide now??

MTO? done.
Person fainting in the crowd? Done.
Rain delay? Ongoing right now.

Will that be enough?
Probably not this time.
If delay till tomorrow, do some emergency treatment on his wrists.
And hope for sunny condition rather than cloudy soggy condition.
 
These threads are amazing. Rafa fans want so badly for his struggles to have an explanation/excuse and Rafa haters (read: Federer fans) want so badly to believe he is being outplayed in a vacuum. Reality exists somewhere in between, with Rafa struggling to deal with the conditions and Diego playing fairly well.
Welcome back (after disappearing for months after the AO) :cool:
 

Towser83

G.O.A.T.
If this match had a roof miraculously, would that favour Nadal or Schwartzman?
Difficult to say because Nadal doesn't like indoors and according to some fans doesn't like outdoors either unless conditions are perfect...

Honestly think from a few clips I watched, Diego is playing a great game that would work indoors as well as damp conditions. Nadal looks to be making errors. Never thought I'd say rain has saved Nadal vs Schwarztman! But it looks that way. Still I would never write off Nadal even if he were at 2 sets to 0 down. Nadal has staying power, and that's what often wins vs a player on a hotstreak
 

ADuck

Hall of Fame
These threads are amazing. Rafa fans want so badly for his struggles to have an explanation/excuse and Rafa haters (read: Federer fans) want so badly to believe he is being outplayed in a vacuum. Reality exists somewhere in between, with Rafa struggling to deal with the conditions and Diego playing fairly well.
Yep, everyone is stupid here. But seriously though, the conditions today aren't Rafa's problem, his serve, forehand and speed have all worsened since Barcelona and Schwartzman is the first person able to expose that this tournament. Whether this decrease in power and speed is because he's tired, injured or just a product of him getting older is unclear. Hell, it could be a combination of any of those. But Fedr fans will still be Fedr fans
 
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Deleted member 756486

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Yep, everyone is stupid here. But seriously though, the conditions today aren't Rafa's problem, his serve, forehand and speed have all worsened since Barcelona and Schwartzman is the first person able to expose that this tournament. Whether this decrease in power and speed is because he's tired, injured or just a product of him getting older is unclear. Hell, it could be a combination of any of those. But Fedr fans will still be Fedr fans
Will Nadal still be injured if he blitzes Diego and wins in 4 sets? I seriously doubt it. :rolleyes:
 
Yep, everyone is stupid here. But seriously though, the conditions today aren't Rafa's problem, his serve, forehand and speed have all worsened since Barcelona and Schwartzman is the first person able to expose that this tournament. Whether this decrease in power and speed is because he's tired, injured or just a product of him getting older is unclear. Hell, it could be a combination of any of those. But Fedr fans will still be Fedr fans
Let's flip the script - Fred is down a set and a break at Wimbledon 2018 to someone.

Are TTW Nadal fans memeing - Yes
Is that okay - Yes
Are they complaining about a rain delay - Yes
 

SeeingDusk

Hall of Fame
It's nearly impossible to beat nadal. All the stars must align for that to happen.

1. Must play out of your mind for the whole entire match.
2. Nadal must be playing like crap.
3. There must not be any delays or interruptions, otherwise said player is 99% doomed.

Chances of all 3 happening, long enough for Nadal to lose is nearly impossible.
 

Raining hopes

Hall of Fame
I doubt he'd hardly win any games against prime Nadal. Any loses that guys like Rafa, fed and djoko take now aren't exactly out of the realm of possibility.
Err No even Bellucci took more games off 2008 RG Nadal than 99% players did last and this year
 
Diego is making Rafa hit that extra ball all the time, kinda like what Rafa did to everyone in his younger days. Win or lose, Rafa’s overrated stamina will be tested. Diego has the intensity and is feisty like no other.

I think it’s safe to say that you can open that champagne bottle now @vive le beau jeu ! :D
i always wait for the total completion of a denadalization to open the sangria :oops:
 

ADuck

Hall of Fame
Will Nadal still be injured if he blitzes Diego and wins in 4 sets? I seriously doubt it. :rolleyes:
I don't know, the result of the match doesn't affect whether he's actually injured or not. I have to assume he's not injured until he actually says something but it's certainly a possibility he's been carrying a minor one since Madrid.
 

Nadal15thslam

Hall of Fame
If he's actually significantly injured Thiem or Delpo will pummel him anyway

That will be the tell. If he escapes this one and beats the others then the injury talk is confirmed BS
Fed fans were VERY quick to attack him at the AO too, cheater bla bla bla until he actually retired and shut their mouths.
 

Steve0904

Talk Tennis Guru
This break may also help Diego as he was hitting 100% all-out. Hard to do that energy wise over 3+ hours.

Diego will come back refueled.
Good point. I still think Nadal is winning anyway, but you often see it with Nadal at RG. He wears out his opponents because they're hitting every ball at 110% trying to hit winners, so if it lasts it's only for a set, maybe set and a half max and then they tire out and Nadal destroys them.
 

ibbi

Hall of Fame
Nadal hasn't really served well all tournament, it's true (pretty sure he's been broken in every match) but never this bad. Of course that is at least partially due to how well Diego was playing on return (I believe during last years clay season Rafa had the best return stats out of everyone, and Schwartzman was second, so this is no surprise).

The question would have been could Diego continue playing at the level he did in the first set for a whole match? Probably not, he always plays Rafa very close for a while (look at both their USO and AO matches) of course playing Nadal on Chatrier is a very different proposition to either of those other two places, so he deserves all the credit in the world, but when you're having to jump to hit half your shots I think it's safe to say it's going to be tough to maintain over best of 5.

People are talking about how Nadal will love the rain break, I actually think Diego will be pretty happy with it too. He's half way to getting the job done, and gets a rest so doesn't have to worry about his level fading in the same way. Diego is not your dime a dozen latter day ATP scrub, he fights till he has nothing left, he's unlikely to just melt down unless Nadal significantly raises his level.
 
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