FedEx23
Semi-Pro
This was as crazy as Federer/Coric at IW.I was one point away from being right lmao shhhhh
2018 Halle (Gerry Weber Open); ATP 500 - General discussion & handwringering
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BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Noticed that too, but didn’t want to contribute to the rampant hand wringing by bringing it up. A bit worried TBH.
Krish872007
Talk Tennis Guru
No idea how Paire even had 2 MPs to begin with. Fred does it again though, 18 straight wins on grass
FedEx23
Semi-Pro
For me at least, since I was also watching that via live scoring and it's more stressful than watching video.
merlinpinpin
Hall of Fame
This is stupid VB drivel. Fed never tanks, actually. He may lose, but he never tanks. Or doesn't show up because he doesn't feel 100% and invents a phantom injury.
And there’s never been another player who has won so many matches while being MP down
FederErizeD
Hall of Fame
Yeah like Paire deserved it.
zagor
Bionic Poster
He did nothing wrong on those MPs, Paire saved them with great play.
albertobra
Hall of Fame
Paire would be better off with a Monica Niculescu type of FH.
PeteD
Legend
Not like injured bad, but overall pretty meh. Serve wasn't sharp, missed a couple of important sitters. Sliced a lot. Dumped routine shots but he always does a few of those. Kept hitting to the wrong side. Meanwhile, Bennie grew a Paire, served great until the very end, took a set from Roger for the 1st time.
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Deleted member 512391
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Yeah, the guy was actually very clutch for his standards, many good first serves while being under the pressure.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Remind us again when Rafa got to second week of Wimbledon? Was it 6 years ago or seven?I hope this forms continues throughout the rest of the grass court season
NatF
Bionic Poster
Garbage was maybe too strong a word, he was decent at the AO and good in Rottadam - definitely good for the last 3 matches last week as well. IW and Miami were poor. Overall I've not been impressed like I was last year by his play.
He was good in Rottadam and Stuttgart after the first match but otherwise he's not impressed me IMO. Even at the AO he played well enough but he never blew me away.
Maybe I am just expecting too much.
Thundergod
Hall of Fame
The 4th round counts as the second week at Wimbledon, but I'm not sure if that's something to be proud of.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Might be best for you to stay away from Fed match threads then.
Gazelle
G.O.A.T.
I thought his Stuttgart form really promising considering it was his first tournament in a while. But now he nearly lost against Paire, not sure what to make of that.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
Still almost (and should have) won IW with his B/C game.
Honestly today is encouraging for me. As long as he's healthy it's going to be quite a tall ask to take 3 sets in one match off of him on grass unless he plays like he did today for an entire match. Unlikely. And even then, it has to be someone that can mentally finish the deal. I can count on one hand the people I'd trust to do that.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
Fraud only won cuz they cheated for him and closed the roof
Nadal15thslam
Hall of Fame
It's the first comment in this thread from me, so I didn't really follow too much of it.
Rago
Hall of Fame
You might be onto something there. its an scandal, a outrage.
NatF
Bionic Poster
Yes if he's healthy he's the heavy favourite for Wimbledon and everyone is allowed a bad match.
Krish872007
Talk Tennis Guru
True, and Fred's no stranger when it comes to close matches in Halle.
Here's his run in 2006:
R1 - def. Bopanna 7-6, 6-2 (had to save SPs in first set)
R2 - def. Gasquet 7-6, 6-7, 6-4 (had to save SPs in first set)
QF - def. Rochus 6-7, 7-6, 7-6 (had to save 4 MPs)
SF - def. Haas 6-4, 6-7, 6-3
F - def. Berdych 6-0, 6-7, 6-2
Then of course Wimbledon came round and he promptly thrashed Gasquet & Berdych there. Granted he was younger then, but this win is as irrelevant to Wimbledon as a loss would have been.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Technically, associates Kyrgios and Muller presented their cases on the second Mondays of 2014 and 2017 but it's now coming up on six years since Rosol & Co. began practicing at SW19.
Nadal15thslam
Hall of Fame
Regardless of what Fed fans think, 2017 was a much better year game wise for Roger, off days or not.
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
True, but this doesn’t alter the fact Fed has lost more matches while holding MP’s than anyone.
zagor
Bionic Poster
Ehm, most Fed fans do indeed think that so I have no clue what point are you making exactly.
TheFifthSet
G.O.A.T.
abmk
Bionic Poster
I think his AO form this year tends to get under-rated.
played pretty well vs Struff (who put up a good fight) and vs Gasquet
the bedene and fucsovics matches - he just did enough to win. the fucsovics match was boring though.
I thought he played excellent vs Berdych after going a break down in the first set.
was dismantling Chung in the semi before Chung retired.
final - was a good match, though not great. Only bad patch of play was from 3-2 up in the 4th set to 1-0 in the 5th set (Cilic was redlining as well)
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HetTheGreaterer
Banned
Yes
It is
Though its an interesting fact that, there are very few bagels in their great rivalry
nadal has bageled fed once (2008 RG final), fed has bageled him thrice(2006 Wim final, 2007 Hamburg final, 2011 WTF RR)
And they have not bageled each other since 7 years almost
Nadal15thslam
Hall of Fame
He should've not played Wimbledon like Roger does with Rg, maybe Fed fans will be satisfied because he "didn't lose early".
Wander
Hall of Fame
Federer has played RG more times than Rafa...
abmk
Bionic Poster
thrice (Wim 06, 2007 Hamburg, 2011 WTF RR)
that bagel by Nadal in RG 2008 is the only time fed's been bagelled in this century.
Nadal15thslam
Hall of Fame
Because he is an old man and didn't miss a slam when he was younger because of injuries like Nadal.
Federer and Del Potro
Bionic Poster
And the crowd won't block it for him like they did for RAFA
zagor
Bionic Poster
That's because Nadal's more popular as Octobrina would say.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
NatF
Bionic Poster
Federer barely hit any forehand winners in the AO final, it's an underrated match - it was good enough from Federer but that's it IMO.
He didn't put a foot wrong really in the 1R-SF, good level for sure he just never lit it up except against Berdych maybe.
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
Correct
abmk
Bionic Poster
@NatF :
In their AO 2018 match, Fed had 61 winners (in 3 sets!), forced 25 errors from Berdych and had 30 UEs (that's 86W+FEs to 30 UEs).
served at 63%, won 83% of his 1st serve points and 53% of his 2nd serve points.
AM in the match was 29.47% (Berdych's was 18.95%)
Statistics indicate an excellent performance from fed.
In their AO 2018 match, Fed had 61 winners (in 3 sets!), forced 25 errors from Berdych and had 30 UEs (that's 86W+FEs to 30 UEs).
served at 63%, won 83% of his 1st serve points and 53% of his 2nd serve points.
AM in the match was 29.47% (Berdych's was 18.95%)
Statistics indicate an excellent performance from fed.
Jut butthurt because they have to wait another day to post their "Nadal is number one thread."
NatF
Bionic Poster
Yes the Berdych match was great, Berdych didn't do anything wrong at all.
Wander
Hall of Fame
Fed would have more entries even if Nadal had entered in both 03 and 04.
Fedeonic
Hall of Fame
Azunyan.Who feels like they could use a nice glass of water right now?
I'll be honest, I'm sick and you don't know how much I suffered during the final set.
abmk
Bionic Poster
I thought you had it as twice initially. you edited it ?
yes, the 2nd part is true.
Nadal15thslam
Hall of Fame
Rafa is almost 5 years younger than Roger.
Wander
Hall of Fame
Exactly.
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