2018 Indian Wells Masters - More than a mere M1000

[pame]

sorry if this has been asked and answered, but when is the draw?

Edit: oops.. just saw it a few posts above

 

[marc45]

Jon Wertheim‏Verified account @jon_wertheim 9m9 minutes ago
So @BNPPARIBASOPEN will award a $1 million bonus to any player, male or female, who wins both the singles and doubles at the 2018 event.

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

Jon Wertheim‏Verified account @jon_wertheim 9m9 minutes ago
So @BNPPARIBASOPEN will award a $1 million bonus to any player, male or female, who wins both the singles and doubles at the 2018 event.

When was the last time someone, man or woman did that?

 

[Mainad]

When was the last time someone, man or woman did that?

Jim Courier won the singles and doubles in 1991 (not sure who was the last woman).

 

[stringertom]

Jim Courier won the singles and doubles in 1991 (not sure who was the last woman).

Lindsay Davenport in 2000 could be the answer.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Fedr vs. everyone excluding Nadal and Djokovic at Indian Wells since 2011

List of people who came anywhere close to beating a healthy Federer at IW since as far back as 2004:

Agassi, 2004 SF (two games away)
Rochus, 2006 3R (two games away)
Murray, 2009 SF (won with a blowout 3rd set)
Baghdatis, 2010 3R (won in 3rd set TB, mentalmidgeterer in full flow wasting MPs)
********, 2011 SF (won with a blowout 3rd set)
********, 2014 F (won in 3rd set TB)
********, 2015 F (won with a blowout 3rd set)

As long as Fed is healthy and vibrant, short of him donskoying himself out early, it takes a top notch level to have a chance against him. Doesn't look like anyone else could produce it at the moment, so really I expect him to win, as long as he's ok physically.

 

[I Am Finnish]

https://twitter.com/David__Goffin/status/969990190969294848?s=19

 

[Deleted member 743561]

What's Tommy's angle with the singles/dubs bounty?

Gotta figure he's pushing a One-handed Backhand Boys agenda. If I'm honest, I'm fully expecting a gala celebrating the feat at which they will perform. Do bear in mind that one meellion dollars doesn't go as far as it used to. Pyrotechnics to be virtually nonexistent.

 

[stringertom]

Lindsay Davenport in 2000 could be the answer.

Fake news...Zvonereva, nine years later.

Davenport won the dubs six times but only two singles titles.

 

[bezs]

That's quite an added incentive for single players to play doubles.

 

[Otacon]

MEN’S SINGLES WILD CARDS
*Tennys Sandgren (USA)
*Ernesto Escobedo (USA)
*Bradley Klahn (2nd place Oracle Challenger finisher)
*Reilly Opelka (3rd place Oracle Challenger finisher)
*Alex de Minaur (AUS)

 

[mike danny]

Fedr vs. everyone excluding Nadal and Djokovic at Indian Wells since 2011

Nadal pretty much has no effect on Fed's stats at IW. When healthy, Fed has handled him just fine. In 2013 Fed was visibly injured.

 

[mike danny]

All of a sudden 2004-2007 looks great, ain't that right, haters?

THIS is the true weak era.

 

[Forehand_Slice]

Time to see if De Minaur can actually play well outside Australia.

 

[falstaff78]

Nadal pretty much has no effect on Fed's stats at IW. When healthy, Fed has handled him just fine. In 2013 Fed was visibly injured.

Yeah I know but he's not here and I didn't want to add the "when healthy" clause!!

 

[LETitBE]

i'm after a pair of "the tick" boxer shorts(new not second hand) if anyone can help it would be greatly appreciated

 

[smoledman]

Yeah I know but he's not here and I didn't want to add the "when healthy" clause!!

Well it applies. Nobody counts Fedr's loss to Del Potro@US Open last year as 100% legit. I know Fedr can't wait to show DelPo who's 'boss' at IW/Miami with some good solid beatdowns. DelPo was feasting on mugs the last week, but no more.

 

[EloQuent]

Well it applies. Nobody counts Fedr's loss to Del Potro@US Open last year as 100% legit. I know Fedr can't wait to show DelPo who's 'boss' at IW/Miami with some good solid beatdowns. DelPo was feasting on mugs the last week, but no more.

I count it as legit. Sure, Federer was injured, but he still beat several solid players until meeting Delpo in the QF.

 

[smoledman]

I count it as legit. Sure, Federer was injured, but he still beat several solid players until meeting Delpo in the QF.

Uh no. He got pushed to 5 sets by both Tiafoe and old-fart Youzhny. It was a horrible performance caused by a broken back. Fedr shouldn't have even played US Open, but felt obligated. Considering he won the very next slam, I feel very comfortable writing US Open 2017 off as a lucky one for Rafa.

 

[EloQuent]

Uh no. He got pushed to 5 sets by both Tiafoe and old-fart Youzhny. It was a horrible performance caused by a broken back. Fedr shouldn't have even played US Open, but felt obligated. Considering he won the very next slam, I feel very comfortable writing US Open 2017 off as a lucky one for Rafa.

It was lucky for Rafa. Not mutually exclusive. Part of Roger being 35+ is that he will have backerer episodes.

 

[falstaff78]

Well it applies. Nobody counts Fedr's loss to Del Potro@US Open last year as 100% legit. I know Fedr can't wait to show DelPo who's 'boss' at IW/Miami with some good solid beatdowns. DelPo was feasting on mugs the last week, but no more.

Not mentioning injuries means not having to debate it with ppl who disagree

 

[mike danny]

Yeah I know but he's not here and I didn't want to add the "when healthy" clause!!

Djokovic has the biggest influence in Fed's stats. Nadal has no influence as he hasn't been a problem for a healthy Fed at IW. Fed's health has to factor in.

 

[mike danny]

Well it applies. Nobody counts Fedr's loss to Del Potro@US Open last year as 100% legit. I know Fedr can't wait to show DelPo who's 'boss' at IW/Miami with some good solid beatdowns. DelPo was feasting on mugs the last week, but no more.

The way Delpo is playing, he sill certainly be a threat at IW and Miami. He is a former finalist at IW and a former semifInalist in Miami. He seems to have finally rediscovered the form that made him a threat in the past and allowed him to get those results at the Sunshine Double.

At this point, I see him as Fed's biggest threat at both IW and Miami.

 

[Otacon]

Zverev is doubtful (knee).

 

[stringertom]

Zverev is doubtful (knee).

Not even 21 and breaking down? I thought Jaz Green knew legs and would mold him into Anduh Murrah 2.0.

 

[forzamilan90]

Come on Fed and Delpo! Go far in the tourney plz

 

[I Am Finnish]

Come on Fed and Delpo! Go far in the tourney plz

What if they are in the same quarter

 

[I Am Finnish]

Zverev is doubtful (knee).

Was he injuried during the SF match against del potro or early in the tournament ?

 

[Otacon]

Was he injuried during the SF match against del potro or early in the tournament ?

During the SF : "I felt a slight pain in the second game when I jumped to serve. It began to hurt more and more,"

 

[Otacon]

The best Federer I've ever seen

 

[Otacon]

IW top 16 seeds

1. Federer
2. Cilic
3. Dimitrov
4. Zverev
5. Thiem
6. Del Potro
7. Anderson
8. Sock
9. Pouille
10. Djokovic
11. Carreño Busta
12. Berdych
13. Bautista Agut
14. Schwartzman
15. Isner
16. Kyrgios

 

[Dilexson]

Hoping for a Fed vs Delpo showdown in later stages.
One of the best rivalries of the past year.

 

[Dilexson]

IW top 16 seeds

1. Federer
2. Cilic
3. Dimitrov
4. Zverev
5. Thiem
6. Del Potro
7. Anderson
8. Sock
9. Pouille
10. Djokovic
11. Carreño Busta
12. Berdych
13. Bautista Agut
14. Schwartzman
15. Isner
16. Kyrgios

Novak has confirmed playing?

 

[Im(moral) Winner]

Novak has confirmed playing?

He hasn't withdrawn yet

 

[Dilexson]

He hasn't withdrawn yet

I'd love to see a match between Fed-Djoker at miami where things could be on an equal footing, as i fear Fed might crush him at IW.
Why should he rush into another comeback anyway?

 

[I Am Finnish]

IW top 16 seeds

1. Federer
2. Cilic
3. Dimitrov
4. Zverev
5. Thiem
6. Del Potro
7. Anderson
8. Sock
9. Pouille
10. Djokovic
11. Carreño Busta
12. Berdych
13. Bautista Agut
14. Schwartzman
15. Isner
16. Kyrgios

It could change if Z pulls out

 

[Red Rick]

It could change if Z pulls out

Why would Z pull out?

I need a Z beat down, not a pullout

 

[I Am Finnish]

Why would Z pull out?

I need a Z beat down, not a pullout

Because

Zverev is doubtful (knee).

 

[Red Rick]

Because

Oh I see.

He kneeds a forehand, that's the problem.

 

[Russeljones]

Nice tournament thread.

 

[smoledman]

Hoping for a Fed vs Delpo showdown in later stages.
One of the best rivalries of the past year.

Depends on which quarter DelPo is in. Hoping they don't meet until the finals that will be MEGA.

 

[merwy]

With Nadal being out, I think all Federer needs to do is a SemiFinal show at Indian Wells and maybe a 3rd or QF in Miami and he's 100% to be #1 until Wimbledon most likely.

Nadal is going to have a lot of trouble defending last year’s points. I mean, he’s out with injury and still has both RG and the USO to defend. Yikes..
Never count your chickens before they hatch but it feels like Fed has got a firm grip on the #1 spot. And if he plays the clay season (without getting injured) he’s going to extend that lead even more.

 

[mightyjeditribble]

I count it as legit. Sure, Federer was injured, but he still beat several solid players until meeting Delpo in the QF.

What is more, they usually play each other close (as in Basel).

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[Deleted member 77403]

The best Federer I've ever seen

Sick

 

[AceSalvo]

The best Federer I've ever seen

0:53, the best upgrade.

Case in point, 1:40 against his "nemesis".

 

[I Am Finnish]

Oh I see.

He kneeds a forehand, that's the problem.

Spoiler: Murygoat

Murygoat

 

[jaggy]

Have to hope they meet.

 

[I Am Finnish]

According to the some dutch sites Djokovic will play the IW

 

[Plamen1234]

I guess there wont be more tennis players withdrawing.I want the final to be either Federer - Djokovic or Federer - Del Potro.

 

[ultradr]

wow, this is a definition of "weak era".