2018 Next Gen ATP Finals - General Discussion

[Berasategui94]

Munar goating on serve and everything else really exposed his game. Frances could not handle the fairly big first serve of Munar today and little success with Tsitsipas.

I think Munar's improved indoors game could be a lot of trouble for Rublev, too, it would be an interesting matchup of contrasting styles.

Also, Winston-Salem 2018: Munar - Rublev 6-3, 6-2...

 

[Meles]

The recent rise of Amazon Prime in tennis and elsewhere (The Expanse) is really annoying. I refuse to sign up to them, since they signed Jeremy Clarkson after he got fired from the BBC for assaulting somebody, and then plastered him all over the UK to advertise their service.

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In US they just have Milan; UK seems to be the guinea pig for tennis coverage. A lot of people in US use Amazon for purchases so its pretty ubiquitous.

Don't know Clarkson at all...wiki:
"In March 2015, Clarkson was suspended by the BBC from Top Gear following a "fracas" with one of the show's producers.[21] It emerged that Clarkson had been involved in a dispute over catering while filming on location in Hawes, North Yorkshire.[135] Clarkson had been offered soup and a cold meat platter, instead of the steak he wanted, because the hotel chef had gone home.[136]"
"It was later announced through the BBC's website that the network would be likely to drop the remaining two episodes of the series as well in the wake of the incident, which involved Clarkson punching producer Oisin Tymon, who was later treated in hospital.[137][138] Tymon also claimed that Clarkson had called him a "lazy Irish cu-nt".[139]"
"However, Tymon has informed the police that he does not wish to press charges against Clarkson, and Clarkson urged fans of the show to stop trolling Tymon on social media, as what happened was not his fault.[151][152] British police have announced they are investigating death threats made against BBC Director-General Tony Hall over the issue.[153]"
"In November 2015, Tymon sued Clarkson and the BBC for racial discrimination over the verbal abuse he received in the March incident.[156][157] The following February, Clarkson formally apologised to Tymon and settled the racial discrimination and personal injury claim for £100,000.[139]"

Didn't know the Brits treasured steak so much. I don't know if I'm a 100% on board. Some of the greats are very temperamental types and is the world really a better place when we remove some of these talents from our lives? Clarkson doesn't sound absolutely awful and at least he came to terms with Tymon. It used to be things were just kept hushed up and the world was not as invasive. Franklin Roosevelt probably would never had been president of the US if the media had not covered up that he was in a wheel chair. So many of these situations just with leaders. Most of these examples are dominant males. Is the world a better place castrating and ostracizing successful people? Seems like a recipe for mediocrity. What would the world of today have done to players like Nastase, Connors, and McEnroe? Kyrgios is checking himself into a psychological ward lol.

Technology is amazing as we have more and more cameras and we're heading towards a situation almost like the movie Minority Report where crime really won't pay. At the same time this will cause more and more situations where a successful person makes a mistake and bam society tears them down. Are we really better off? Will we crush the spark out of innovation and the cutting edge; see Elon Musk.

I'm amazed at how many Brits hate Amazon Prime. In the US they are beloved by the young and cord cutters saving money on cable tv which would include me.

 

[Meles]

I think Munar's improved indoors game could be a lot of trouble for Rublev, too, it would be an interesting matchup of contrasting styles.

Also, Winston-Salem 2018: Munar - Rublev 6-3, 6-2...

Munar could win Milan from 1-2 in RR.

 

[Meles]

i didnt read it but has Angrey any chance to get thru?

I didn't either. See posts above on the current scenarios.

 

[mightyjeditribble]

Clarkson doesn't sound absolutely awful .

Believe me, he is absolutely awful.

On this topic, see also:

 

[CiscoPC600]

So what happened to Tiafoe today? Tired?

 

[voldemort]

Mighty Foe smoked by Munar and he's out of Milan. Goating Munar into SFs with Tsitsipas win today.

Plus he’s too good and likable a guy.

 

[albertobra]

How does the footfault work?

 

[Meles]

So what happened to Tiafoe today? Tired?

That is the speculation. Munar served and played out of his mind which also depressed Tiafoe who rather stupidly did not get much coaching.

 

[CiscoPC600]

I see...

On another note, Tsitsipas is stream rolling. Lots of short points.

 

[Meles]

Well Demon mauled a poor serving Fritz (Fritz should have won first set, but 0-4 on first serves at end of breaker). Demon and Rublev and excellent pairing and won't mind seeing a final between them.

Tiafoe is out. Hurkacz needs to beat Tsitsipas and he's in, but its not looking great after promising start to get to 15-40 on Tsitbots serve. Looks like its going to be the red hot Munar and Tsits coming through as first set nearly done at 4-1.

So heading towards these SFs:
Munar v Demon for an epic ground battle
Tsits v Rublev for another epic battle

 

[Meles]

I see...

On another note, Tsitsipas is stream rolling. Lots of short points.

I've been dining and monitoring, but looks like he outclasses the equally tall Hurkacz in the speed department.

 

[CiscoPC600]

Hurkacz started serving well and winning the short points on his service games in the second but fell apart in the tiebreaker--lost nearly all the rallies. Looking like nerves.

 

[Meles]

Hurkacz started serving well and winning the short points on his service games in the second but fell apart in the tiebreaker--lost nearly all the rallies. Looking like nerves.

Here comes Hurk! 15-40 off phenomenal shot making.

 

[CiscoPC600]

aaaand it's 0-3.

 

[Meles]

Hurk brilliantly in charge then is too fine and jusst wide, service winner, and into net on next shot for Tsits and he holds for 3-0.

 

[helixx]

Ruby against Tsitsi tmr. Not good, not good

 

[CiscoPC600]

Can't wait for the final. Hopefully there are no upsets in the semis.

 

[Meles]

Can't wait for the final. Hopefully there are no upsets in the semis.

Don't want Munar in the final that's for sure.

 

[helixx]

Don't want Munar in the final that's for sure.

and de Minaur

 

[helixx]

and de Minaur

ah but thats not possible

 

[Meles]

Magnificent match so far; 3 all in TB

 

[Meles]

Munar breaks with drop volley cross court. Munar 4-3

 

[Meles]

Insane Demon gets it back to 4 all with incredible BH cross pass

 

[Meles]

Munar pass destroys Demon, now 4-6

 

[Meles]

What an ace! Munar 6-5

 

[Meles]

And Munar aces to take breaker.

 

[helixx]

And Munar aces to take breaker.

suddenly a fan?

 

[Meles]

Munar wall to wall coaching in between sets in Paris.

 

[Meles]

suddenly a fan?

I thought he was very, very dangerous after the goating I saw in 3rd match, also owns the head to head.

 

[Meles]

De Minaur decidedly a better player than last year's WTF finalist Goffin.

 

[Meles]

Easy peasy hold for Demon, now the coaching session with Demon in English, coach in Spanish:
1. That's not the problem
2. Can't put volley away
3. Demon says Munar pushing ball and waiting for him to make errors

Upbraids coach

 

[TheGhostOfAgassi]

De Minaur decidedly a better player than last year's WTF finalist Goffin.

Do you know how tall he is?

 

[Meles]

Unbelievable net cord for Demon shatters Munar's world for 0-40, Ace.... serve and winner...

 

[Meles]

Do you know how tall he is?

close to 6 feet for the little Demon.

and bam a Demonic lob breaks Munar

 

[Meles]

Goat running cross FH pass for Munar gets 0-15

 

[helixx]

Demon says Munar pushing ball and waiting for him to make errors

de minaur literally do this in every match himself

 

[Meles]

Ouch Demon generates own pace wide for 30 all

 

[Nadal_Django]

Wow, the surface looks really fast.

 

[Meles]

de minaur literally do this in every match himself

LOL. Pot calling kettle black, but he's trying to blow Munar off court and holds for 3-0.

 

[Meles]

Wow, the surface looks really fast.

Guessing its right in line with Paris and likely WTF. Rublev stated twice as fast as last year.

 

[Meles]

Little Demon same birthday as John McEnroe and Michael Jordan.

 

[Meles]

Munar not going away, 1-3

 

[Nadal_Django]

Guessing its right in line with Paris and likely WTF. Rublev stated twice as fast as last year.

No way. Looks much more faster. Looks more like 90s indoor carpet tournament than any current ATP tournament.

 

[Meles]

Munar beaten at net again for 0-15

 

[Meles]

No way. Looks much more faster. Looks more like 90s indoor carpet tournament than any current ATP tournament.

Paris has the ridiculous camera angle remember

Demon 30-15 with big serve

 

[Meles]

Demon aces out set 4-1, 1 set all. Coaching now.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Paris has the ridiculous camera angle remember

Demon 30-15 with big serve

Where is the gear?

 

[Meles]

Munar I think said something hilarious in Spanish to coach to start things out and he's listening intently.

 

[Meles]

Where is the gear?

Demon large in charge now