2018 Shanghai SF - (1) Federer vs. (13.) Ćorić

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ATP H2H: 2-1 for Federer
Hard surface H2H: 2-0 for Federer
Last meeting: Borna Coric d. Roger Federer (1) 7-6(6) 3-6 6-2, 2018 Halle Final
 
Hmm this is hard to call. Coric is a dangerous floater, becoming a consistent top player. Federer's form is hard to gauge but I think he's improved over grass season. Given that fast HC benefits Fedr, I'd give him the edge, but not a certainty at all.
 
Otacon said:
Fed must show first and foremost that his current form is not a flash in the pan.
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So true. And since he's become ancient, his form can suddenly change from brilliant to total crap in the blink of an eye. The Goffin match last year is a case in point. The Anderson match at Wimbledon was another less overt example. I think he'll beat Coric but fall easily to Djokovic in the final. Just making a final at 37 is mind blowing, but that's scant solace for Fed fans.
 
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BeatlesFan said:
So true. And since he's become ancient, his form can suddenly change from brilliant to total crap in the blink of an eye. The Goffin match last year is a case in point. The Anderson match at Wimbledon was another less overt example. I think he'll beat Coric but fall easily to Djokovic in the final. Just making a final at 37 is mind blowing, but that's scant solace for Fed fans.
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Honestly if I thought Roger would keep playing as long as he makes it to semi-finals and finals but doesn't win, I really wouldn't mind. I've enjoyed the heck out of his matches so far this tournament. I just want to see him play, even at 172, he still makes shots that no one else can (he just no longer makes them as often).
 
BeatlesFan said:
So true. And since he's become ancient, his form can suddenly change from brilliant to total crap in the blink of an eye. The Goffin match last year is a case in point. The Anderson match at Wimbledon was another less overt example. I think he'll beat Coric but fall easily to Djokovic in the final. Just making a final at 37 is mind blowing, but that's scant solace for Fed fans.
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At the ATP Finals last year, he was tired. But the most worrying for us Fed fans is that he lost his motivation a bit after he achieved all of his big goals within a couple of weeks ( major no.20 and no.1 spot back). It happened before when he won the AO 2010, but now he's 37 and he absolutely needs a new source of motivation. Going for Connors' record would be perfect for him to get some mojo back.
 
I will be rooting for Coric! (: Hoping for a Coric-Zverev final - may the next gen start taking over from the big three at more and more of these tournaments! (:
 
Ann said:
Honestly if I thought Roger would keep playing as long as he makes it to semi-finals and finals but doesn't win, I really wouldn't mind. I've enjoyed the heck out of his matches so far this tournament. I just want to see him play, even at 172, he still makes shots that no one else can (he just no longer makes them as often).
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You are content for him to keep getting beaten in semis & finals, converting 2/17 break points, 10 shanks and 5 double faults every single time JUST because he makes 2-3 highlight shots? Pathetic.
 
smoledman said:
You are content for him to keep getting beaten in semis & finals, converting 2/17 break points, 10 shanks and 5 double faults every single time JUST because he makes 2-3 highlight shots? Pathetic.
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Your pathetic for interpreting it that way and for obviously not having watched how well he's been playing, yet feeling you had to make an ignorant comment anyway. Eat more fiber, your outlook will improve.
 
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So far poll is about even. I think Coric can win this, but I'm picking Fed in 2, more wish than real belief. But Fed has looked pretty sharp today, and even though it was two hard sets, it was only 2.
 
Coric is like a new Djokovic. He has the physical build, a great athlete. He has a great serve, great shots from both wings, touch shots, good at net, great mover. The only thing that has held him back so far is the ultimate belief that he belongs at the top. Only he knows if he has that burning desire to be the best, because he certainly has all the weapons.
 
smoledman said:
Coric is like a new Djokovic. He has the physical build, a great athlete. He has a great serve, great shots from both wings, touch shots, good at net, great mover. The only thing that has held him back so far is the ultimate belief that he belongs at the top. Only he knows if he has that burning desire to be the best, because he certainly has all the weapons.
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Even Coric will not buy into the hype. He is a decent player but if Fed plays at his normal best, Coric is not winning past 4 games a set.
 
Otacon said:
Going for Connors' record would be perfect for him to get some mojo back.
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He's already stated several times he isn't motivated by Connors record at all. He specifically addressed this in Rotterdam and said he would never play 250's just to catch Jimbo's tally. He has admitted he wants to get to 100 tournament wins, however. His only reason for playing for the past several years is to try and win more majors. Nothing else is important to him at this point.
 
BeatlesFan said:
He's already stated several times he isn't motivated by Connors record at all. He specifically addressed this in Rotterdam and said he would never play 250's just to catch Jimbo's tally. He has admitted he wants to get to 100 tournament wins, however. His only reason for playing for the past several years is to try and win more majors. Nothing else is important to him at this point.
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True.. He wants the 100 badly but does not care for 109 at this time as it is a long road from here.
 
Ann said:
Your pathetic for interpreting it that way and for obviously not having watched how well he's been playing, yet feeling you had to make an ignorant comment anyway. Eat more fiber, your outlook will improve.
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He liked the post that he gave you grief over. Figure that one out.
 
junior74 said:
Zverev beats Djokovic. Coric beats Federer.

Shanghai, full of surprises
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A final's batter between 21-year-olds (I suspect it would be the youngest Masters final since Djokovic/Murray 2008 Cincinnati?), or either Zverev or Coric beating Federer and Djokovic to win the title would be great for mens tennis.
 
smoledman said:
Coric is like a new Djokovic. He has the physical build, a great athlete. He has a great serve, great shots from both wings, touch shots, good at net, great mover. The only thing that has held him back so far is the ultimate belief that he belongs at the top. Only he knows if he has that burning desire to be the best, because he certainly has all the weapons.
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Some days like joe kovic, some days like mury...straight from the horse's mouth.

Tonight he will be mury.
 
Even if Coric pulls it off, he should start looking at his retirement options after this match.
 
smoledman said:
You are content for him to keep getting beaten in semis & finals, converting 2/17 break points, 10 shanks and 5 double faults every single time JUST because he makes 2-3 highlight shots? Pathetic.
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Are you joking? Every fan should just love watching him play. The results are icing on the cake. I mean, I can honestly admit that I’m way more happy seeing him winning the title, and that I was upset by something like the Millman loss. But that’s sport, and never would I regret having watched him on the way to a loss. All that is way better than him not participating (like on clay) or retiring for good.

Also you are talking about SF or final losses, which makes it even worse. If he loses let’s say in the 1st or 2nd round of every big tournament for a year or so, THEN maybe we could talk. But even then, nobody can take any title from his prime years away from him, and every sane person will understand what happens with age (or at least SHOULD do so). So his legacy isn’t in danger in any way, no matter what nonsense some people may tell us about it.

Roger Federer plays on because he loves playing tennis, as it always was. So the only question is: Where should he play? On the senior’s tour? With his children in the backyard? Just come on, Roger belongs on the regular tour, on the same court as the best players in the world, as long as his body allows it!

And by the way, as we are talking let me remind you that he still is #2 in the world, with chances to get back to #1.
 
ChrisRF said:
Are you joking? Every fan should just love watching him play. The results are icing on the cake. I mean, I can honestly admit that I’m way more happy seeing him winning the title, and that I was upset by something like the Millman loss. But that’s sport, and never would I regret having watched him on the way to a loss. All that is way better than him not participating (like on clay) or retiring for good.

Also you are talking about SF or final losses, which makes it even worse. If he loses let’s say in the 1st or 2nd round of every big tournament for a year or so, THEN maybe we could talk. But even then, nobody can take any title from his prime years away from him, and every sane person will understand what happens with age (or at least SHOULD do so). So his legacy isn’t in danger in any way, no matter what nonsense some people may tell us about it.

Roger Federer plays on because he loves playing tennis, as it always was. So the only question is: Where should he play? On the senior’s tour? With his children in the backyard? Just come on, Roger belongs on the regular tour, on the same court as the best players in the world, as long as his body allows it!

And by the way, as we are talking let me remind you that he still is #2 in the world, with chances to get back to #1.
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He is also the reigning defending AO champion, that is better than 99% of the tour.
 
Otacon said:
At the ATP Finals last year, he was tired. But the most worrying for us Fed fans is that he lost his motivation a bit after he achieved all of his big goals within a couple of weeks ( major no.20 and no.1 spot back). It happened before when he won the AO 2010, but now he's 37 and he absolutely needs a new source of motivation. Going for Connors' record would be perfect for him to get some mojo back.
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Protecting his slam record isn't motivating enough?
 
smoledman said:
Coric is like a new Djokovic. He has the physical build, a great athlete. He has a great serve, great shots from both wings, touch shots, good at net, great mover. The only thing that has held him back so far is the ultimate belief that he belongs at the top. Only he knows if he has that burning desire to be the best, because he certainly has all the weapons.
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Djokovic is Data and Ćorić is B4.
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