2019 ATP Finals RR - Zverev vs Tsitsipas

[Meles]

Zverev resplendent versus Nadal, but:
40/2019 SF Beijing Hard Stefanos Tsitsipas Alexander Zverev 7-6(6) 6-4
19/2019 QF Madrid Masters Clay Stefanos Tsitsipas Alexander Zverev 7-5 3-6 6-2
32/2018 QF Canadian Masters Hard Stefanos Tsitsipas Alexander Zverev 3-6 7-6(11) 6-4
31/2018 SF Washington Hard Alexander Zverev Stefanos Tsitsipas 6-2 6-4

 

[Meles]

Gotta feeling Sneakipas holds on and pulls this out in three sets. Zverev's level was off the chart versus Nadal so should be interesting to say the least.

 

[The Green Mile]

Looking forward to this one, thinking Zverev again... Nice time slot for me personally, scheduled last on court, not before 8:00 pm local time...

 

[HetTheGreaterer]

If zverev's serve is clicking, there's no chance for tsitsipas as his return is inferior to that of zverev

 

[mightyjeditribble]

Another hard match to call. I've gone with Zverev in 3; being back on this court seems to have reignited something in him. But wouldn't be surprised at either result tbh.

I still have no idea who should make it out of this group. Medvedev had such great results in the second half of the year, it would be silly to rule him out. Obviously you count Rafa out at your peril. But Tsitsi and Street really shone on Monday. If they can bring the same form again, this should be a cracking match - and the winner will be in pole position.

This really is shaping up to be the best WTF in a while - assuming the younger guys can keep up their good form!

 

[Krish0608]

This tournament has been too up and down to predict anything. Nevertheless, Zed in 3

 

[Pheasant]

Zverev is on another roll. I am taking Sasha in straight sets.

 

[I Am Finnish]

Zverev

 

[KINGROGER]

I think Zverev here.

 

[aldeayeah]

Go Zverev!

Him winning has the added advantage of turning Nadal - Tsitsipas into a KO match, otherwise we may see the dreaded triple 2-1 by the end of RR (by far my least favorite feature of WTF, ties in the RR stage)

 

[Krish0608]

I picked Z to win this. But after watching the Med- Nad match, Stef would be in a great mood. It could be closer than I initially thought

 

[StrongRule]

@Yugram We have to root for Zedzilla here. Hope he brings the level which he showed against Nadal.

 

[youngpolyhater]

Tsitsipas has figured out Zverev but the latter loves these court conditions.
Should be a close one

I think Stefanos will win in 3 something like 7-6 3-6 7-5

 

[Yugram]

@Yugram We have to root for Zedzilla here. Hope he brings the level which he showed against Nadal.

C’MOOOOOOOOON

 

[StrongRule]

Go Zverev!

Him winning has the added advantage of turning Nadal - Tsitsipas into a KO match, otherwise we may see the dreaded triple 2-1 by the end of RR (by far my least favorite feature of WTF, ties in the RR stage)

Exactly. That's something I really hate in WTF. Nadal is in a very bad position right now, so he needs Zverev to beat Tsitsipas in order to hope for something.

 

[helixx]

Zverev in 2. Tistsipas needs to be sacrificed for better cause!

 

[ibbi]

Rafa fans everywhere become Zverev fans for the night. If Rafa has to play a lame duck Tsitsipas on friday and gets to avoid Novak in the semis I'd imagine he'd be a pretty happy bunny, no matter what state he's in.

Also just generally interesting to see if Zverev can get anywhere close to where he was against Nadal.

 

[The Green Mile]

Coming onto court now

 

[helixx]

zverev choosing to recieve. why?

 

[acintya]

mek mek

 

[The Green Mile]

OK, these serves look 140 mph...

 

[Djokovic2011]

Rafa fans everywhere become Zverev fans for the night. If Rafa has to play a lame duck Tsitsipas on friday and gets to avoid Novak in the semis I'd imagine he'd be a pretty happy bunny, no matter what state he's in.

Also just generally interesting to see if Zverev can get anywhere close to where he was against Nadal.

Out of interest what would need to happen in the next couple of days for Djokovic and Nadal to meet in the semifinals?

 

[The Green Mile]

Prety quick start from both players, Stefanos holding comfortably for 2-1, already a handful of serve/forehand combinations.

 

[onyxrose81]

Out of interest what would need to happen in the next couple of days for Djokovic and Nadal to meet in the semifinals?

I believe Nadal has to beat Tsitsipas to be the top of his group. There may be something else.

 

[StrongRule]

Sad, but I have a feeling Tsitsipas is winning this match. Really, the only way for Nadal to remain at the top spot is if Federer beats Djokovic. (which is very, very unlikely)

 

[BeatlesFan]

Dislike both these guys and have never rooted fpr Tsitsipas, but will have to today. Will not root for Zverev.

 

[youngpolyhater]

Sad, but I have a feeling Tsitsipas is winning this match. Really, the only way for Nadal to remain at the top spot is if Federer beats Djokovic. (which is very, very unlikely)

Djokovic can lose the SF also

 

[Djokovic2011]

I believe Nadal has to beat Tsitsipas to be the top of his group. There may be something else.

Thanks. What would need to happen for him to not even get through to the semis?

 

[StrongRule]

Thanks. What would need to happen for him to not even get through to the semis?

He won a match in 3 close sets, and lost a match in easy 2. I think he should be at a big disadvantage now. Even a win over Tsitsipas might not be enough.

 

[youngpolyhater]

Out of interest what would need to happen in the next couple of days for Djokovic and Nadal to meet in the semifinals?

Djokovic def Federer


Tsitsipas def Zverev
Medvedev def Zverev
Nadal def Tsitsipas

Theres also the 3-way tie scenario but it won't favor Nadal because he won barely and lost easily

 

[StrongRule]

Tsitsipas is so annoying. He was playing like hot garbage against Djokovic in Paris, making back to back double faults and missing every second forehand. But now he is actually trying and hardly making any errors.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Tsitsipas has improved his volleying this year.

 

[acintya]

im almost always rooting for the one hander except when Nadal is playing..

 

[Djokovic2011]

Tsitsipas is so annoying. He was playing like hot garbage against Djokovic in Paris, making back to back double faults and missing every second forehand. But now he is actually trying and hardly making any errors.

Tsitsipas was my dark horse to win at the beginning of the tournament. I think either he or Thiem will be lifting the trophy on Sunday.

 

[The Green Mile]

Stefanos playing well, although there is a concerning lack of 1st serves in these opening three service games. Pushed to deuce here...

 

[ibbi]

Thanks. What would need to happen for him to not even get through to the semis?

For them to meet in the semis Novak would have to beat Roger, and Rafa would have to beat Stefanos, and Stefanos would have to beat Zverev.

For Rafa not to make it out of the group he would have to lose to Stefanos on Friday. Pretty simple Unless I guess Zverev beats Tsitsipas now and then somehow manages to lose to Deadvedev. Not sure what would happen then.

 

[Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil]

Enjoying this one so far.

 

[StrongRule]

Tsitsipas was my dark horse to win at the beginning of the tournament. I think either he or Thiem will be lifting the trophy on Sunday.

It's annoying how terrible he played against Djokovic in Paris. It was beyond pathetic. But now he is suddenly on fire. (until his next match against Djokovic I guess)

 

[The Green Mile]

Big difference in the quality of the short/weaker ball on the forehand wing, a lot more time for Stefanos to get in position to counter attack.

 

[youngpolyhater]

It's annoying how terrible he played against Djokovic in Paris. It was beyond pathetic. But now he is suddenly on fire. (until his next match against Djokovic I guess)

He stopped Djokovic in Shanghai tho

 

[Djokovic2011]

It's annoying how terrible he played against Djokovic in Paris. It was beyond pathetic. But now he is suddenly on fire. (until his next match against Djokovic I guess)

You said the same thing in your last post.

 

[StrongRule]

For them to meet in the semis Novak would have to beat Roger, and Rafa would have to beat Stefanos, and Stefanos would have to beat Zverev.

For Rafa not to make it out of the group he would have to lose to Stefanos on Friday. Pretty simple Unless I guess Zverev beats Tsitsipas now and then somehow manages to lose to Deadvedev. Not sure what would happen then.

If Tsitsipas plays like he does now, current Nadal is not beating him.

 

[StrongRule]

He stopped Djokovic in Shanghai tho

That was a big surprise.

 

[The Green Mile]

It's showing Stefanos in some obvious discomfort in an earlier practice session. No problems so far. Some of these running forehands do look a little suspect, but we'll put it up to Zverev's ball striking

 

[Zara]

I am fully behind Zzzzzzzzzzzzzz. Just so you know.

 

[StrongRule]

Both are playing great right now. Zverev missed half a chance to break in the previous game though.

 

[The Green Mile]

Man, such a good point from Stefanos 7/7 at the net today so far

 

[junior74]

Ah, that was a beautiful point by Stefanos

 

[Born_to_slice]

Last Zverev's match was a rare one where I rooted for him. Same here, only for Tsits. Pretty good tennis so far.

 

[Zara]

Man, such a good point from Stefanos 7/7 at the net today so far