2019 ATP Finals RR - Zverev vs Tsitsipas

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BeatlesFan

BeatlesFan

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Section 8, ATP rule book: "Elecontronic devices are prohibited on court, unless it's music." Zverev needs to get lost after this.
 
Djokovic2011

Djokovic2011

Bionic Poster
Unless he goes into ultra choke job mode like Medvedev did today, Tsitsipas shouldn't have too many problems against Nadal if he can continue playing at this level.
 
BeatlesFan

BeatlesFan

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Jim Courier: "Tsitsipas is the better mover than Zverev, the better ball striker and arguably, the much smarter player. The only thing I see Zverev doing better is the serve, but that can also get erratic with a ton of doubles."
 
Picmun

Picmun

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The Green Mile

The Green Mile

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Zverev thought he had double faulted, stopped momentarily, but the call didn't come haha

Ends up winning the point. Stefanos to serve for the match.
 
FedGR

FedGR

Professional
It just seems to me that Tsitsipas has many more weapons than both Zverev and Medvedev. Once he figures out how to beat them, there is not much they can do. It might seem stupid to be saying this at this point but if he plays them 20 times in the future, he'll win the majority of the matches.
 
I Am Finnish

I Am Finnish

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Right now:

Tsitsipas 4-0
Nadal: 3-3
Zverev 2-2

Nadal is out

- if he beats Tsitsipas in 3 & Zverev wins in 2

- if he loses to Tsitsipas in 2 or 3 & Zverev wins in 2 or 3

Im not sure im correct
 
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youngpolyhater

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Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil said:
I read that the sets ratio is the tiebreaker when three players are tied. But when it's a tie between two, their head to head match decides it.
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The final standings of each group shall be determined by the first of the following methods that apply:

a) Greatest number of wins;
b) Greatest number of matches played;
Comment: 2-1 won-loss record beats a 2-0 won-loss record; a 1-2 record beats a 1-0 record.
c) Head-to-head results if only two (2) players are tied,
d) If three (3) players are tied, then:
  1. If three (3) players each have one (1) win, a player having played less than all three (3) matches is automatically eliminated and the player advancing to the single elimination competition is the winner of the match-up of the two (2) players tied with 1-2 records; or
  2. Highest percentage of sets won; or
  3. Highest percentage of games won; or
  4. The player positions on the Emirates ATP Rankings as of the Monday after the last ATP World Tour tournament of the calendar year.
  5. If (i), (ii), (iii) or (iv) produce one (1) superior player (first place), or one (1) inferior player (third place), and the two (2) remaining players are tied, the tie between those two (2) players shall be broken by head-to-head record.

Comment 1: 1 player has 3 wins and the other 3 players have 1 win. Of the 3 players with 1 win, 1 player has only played in 2 matches while the other 2 players have played 3 matches. The player who has only played 2 matches is eliminated and then the 2 remaining players revert back to head-to-head results with the winner of their match advancing to the semi-finals.

Comment 2: 1 player has 3 wins and the other 3 players have 1 win and they all have played 3 matches.
The tie-break for % of sets won has 1 player with a better % than the other two. This player advances to the semi-final round.

Comment 3: 3 players have 2 wins and the other player has 0 wins. The player with 0 wins is eliminated. Of the 3 players with 2 wins, they are ordered by their % of sets won. This produces a 1, 2 & 3 order and the players finishing 1 and 2 move to the semi-final round and the player finishing 3 in % of sets won is eliminated. The player with the best % of sets won is the winner of the group.

Comment 4: 3 players have 2 wins and the other player has 0 wins. The player with 0 wins is eliminated. Of the 3 players with 2 wins, 1 player’s sets won-loss is 5-2 for 71.43%; the other 2 players both have a 4-3 record in sets for 57.14%. In this case there is 1 superior player (71.43%) and the remaining 2 players are tied; it now reverts to the head to head result of the 2 remaining players with the winning player advancing as group runner-up.

Comment 5: 3 players have 2 wins and the other player has 0 wins. The player with 0 wins is eliminated. Of the 3 players with 2 wins, 2 have set won-loss records of 5-3 (62.5%) while the other player is 4-3 (57.14%). In this case we have 1 inferior player (57.14%) and he is eliminated. The remaining two players both advance to the semi-finals with the winner of their head-to-head match advancing as the group winner.

Comment 6: 3 players have 2 wins and the other player has 0 wins. The player with 0 wins is eliminated. Of the 3 players with 2 wins, all have played 3 matches and all 3 have set won-loss records of 5-4 (55.56%). In this case we move to % of games won. The % of games won breaks down like this: 44-40 for 52.38%, 45-43 for 51.14% and 44-43 for 50.57%. This produces a 1, 2 and 3 order of the group and the number 1 player in % of games won is the group winner while the player finishing 2nd in % of games won advances to the semi-finals as the group runner-up. The player with the 3rd best % of games won is eliminated.
 
MeatTornado

MeatTornado

Talk Tennis Guru
FedGR said:
It just seems to me that Tsitsipas has many more weapons than both Zverev and Medvedev. Once he figures out how to beat them, there is not much they can do. It might seem stupid to be saying this at this point but if he plays them 20 times in the future, he'll win the majority of the matches.
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Federer has more weapons than Novak or Rafa but they've still beat him a ton.

It's great to play offensive tennis, but you need to be on all the time for it to work. Zverev and Medvedev can develop better B or C games and grind out a ton of wins on days when Stef isn't redlining.
 
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