2019 Australian Open 4R - [4] Alexander Zverev vs. [16] Milos Raonic

[reaper]

Zverev just likes to be given everything. When Raonic didn't give up after after Zverev broke him in the first game he gave up himself.

 

[duaneeo]

stamina? mindset? laziness?

He's not petering out. It has nothing to do with stamina, and surely he's not lazy.

Zverev clearly has an acute case of slamidous.

 

[abmk]

heh, they are showing Goran observing Zverev's racquet smashing

 

[Steve0904]

1-1 3rd set. Another breadstick incoming.

 

[Terenigma]

Zverev won his second service game!


...in the third set

 

[Vamos Rafa Nadal]

I like Raonic very much. Glad he has been able to recover sufficiently from his injuries.

 

[NoleFam]

And Zverev is the only one from next generation that has done remotely anything in his career that alome tells you how pathetic is next generation.

Khachanov has a Masters so he has done something. Tsitsipas got to Canada final beating 4 top 10 players. Coric made his 1st Masters final and got a chance to go further this tournament. They made some strides last year and I think will improve more this year. Tsitsipas is improving rapidly.

 

[alexio]

I guess you didn't see last year's semifinal Nadal lost even though he played better and choked in tiebreak and couldn't convert something like 5 bps in 5th.

it's only one match) do see the whole picture

 

[King No1e]

Emphatic hold. Come on Sascha!

 

[Thundergod]

Haven't had a chance to watch, but what happened? Is Zverev straight up imploding if not injured?

 

[Vamos Rafa Nadal]

I find all the ragging on younger players annoying and not very productive. The big 3 won't be around forever and we need to build up our new champions for the future of this great sport!

 

[EloQuent]

Haven't had a chance to watch, but what happened? Is Zverev straight up imploding if not injured?

It's a slam, so yes.

 

[3fees]

Milos v Zverev 61,61,11 , Zverev may be struggling back in

Cheers
3fees

 

[reaper]

Zverev thinks you're just supposed to stop the ball off the serve?

 

[Steve0904]

Haven't had a chance to watch, but what happened? Is Zverev straight up imploding if not injured?

Yeah, straight up implosion sums it up.

 

[Noletheking]

Khachanov has a Masters so he has done something. Tsitsipas got to Canada final beating 4 top 10 players. Coric made his 1st Masters final and got a chance to go further this tournament. They made some strides last year and I think will improve more this year. Tsitsipas is improving rapidly.

None has made a slam semi yet or done anything. Untill they do something i'm not gonna believe in them. i need to see it first , people said same about lost gneration mugs.

 

[Midaso240]

I agree. It's just too bad. I'm desperately looking for the next player I can be a fan off, once Fedal retire (which is probably happening sooner than we think).
I wanted that guy to be Zverev, but he keeps disappointing. I had originally thought he would be future #1 with several slams. Now I am not sure. Also don't see anyone else with potential.
Perhaps it is Tpisitsas.

You don't have to be a fan of the most successful player,you like who you like sometimes I can't stand the players at the top and sometimes I like them...

 

[abmk]

I guess you didn't see last year's semifinal Nadal lost even though he played better and choked in tiebreak and couldn't convert something like 5 bps in 5th.

Nadal wasn't the better player. They were even..
nadal didn't choke the TB.
djokovic saved most of those BPs. could only fault Nadal for a not so great approach shot on one of them.
Nadal also saved MP with a brilliant dropshot

Nadal played great even though indoor conditions were not exactly in his favour.
Maybe you should get a clue before BSing.

the only time nadal was mentally affected by 'Djokovic' itis in slams was in 11.

he beat djokovic comfortably in RG 12 final
beat djokovic from a break down in RG 13 semi 5th set with some great tennis.
it was djokovic who crumbled in USO 13 final
it was djokovic who went down in RG 14 final as well.

 

[Terenigma]

Raonic's first test since the opening game and he handled it perfectly. Vamos!

 

[Noletheking]

it's only one match) do see the whole picture

Pics from 2010? lol

 

[Tshooter]

Solid performance so far by Zed.

I wonder if the other players are starting to get annoyed that Zed keeps getting the #4 seed at Majors.

 

[Deon Sanders]

Those in the United States should look at the moon right now

 

[NoleFam]

None has made a slam semi yet or done anything. Untill they do something i'm not gonna believe in them. i need to see it first , people said same about lost gneration mugs.

You will see that happen this year in my opinion. Maybe even this tournament. Tsitsipas has been playing well and so has Coric.

 

[Terenigma]

Solid performance so far by Zed.

I wonder if the other players are starting to get annoyed that Zed keeps getting the #4 seed at Majors.

I keep forgetting he's the 4th seed... Oh my...

 

[3fees]

Milos v Zverev 61,61,21 , Milos to win in 3

Cheers
3fees

 

[Vamos Rafa Nadal]

Coric, Medvedev, Tiafoe and Tsitsipas are still in this tournament and we don't know how far they will go.

Then we also have Nishikori, Raonic, Carreno Busta, Pouille, and Bautista Agut still in the tournament and again we don't know how far they will go.

Only 2 big 3 players left this year, and yes, they may very well be the finalists, but we don't know yet.

Simply because Zverev didn't bother to show up for this match doesn't mean that all is lost with the younger players or players who have yet to win a slam

 

[reaper]

There's no reason Zverev can't fight back and win. It's just a 2 set to 0 deficit. Doesn't matter whether you lose 6-0 or 7-6.

 

[3fees]

I keep forgetting he's the 4th seed... Oh my...

3rd seed after this tourney--He is passing Federer

Cheers
3fees

 

[Noletheking]

nadal didn't choke the TB.
djokovic saved most of those BPs. could only fault Nadal for a not so great approach shot on one of them.
Nadal also saved MP with a brilliant dropshot

Maybe you should get a clue before BSing.

the only time nadal was mentally affected by 'Djokovic' itis in slams was in 11.

Lmao against Any other player Nadal would've not wasted 5 bps to win one break. in tiebreak Nadal could've hit fth in open court on set poin but he played cross court out of fear. may be you should start watching natches carefully. he even had set point on bis own serve in TB. go watch it again.

 

[onyxrose81]

I want a 40-0 breakdown from Z. There’s still time I suppose.

 

[alexio]

Pics from 2010? lol

as i said it's not 0-4 , but 2-2 on HC

 

[The Green Mile]

Zverev and his passive tennis during grand slam play..... Zverev would benefit from on court coaching, maybe next year at the AO 2020

 

[StannisTheMannis]

I would like to thank Milos raonic for this contribution to the sport of tennis

 

[Terenigma]

Sexy forehand dtl

 

[Noletheking]

You will see that happen this year in my opinion. Maybe even this tournament. Tsitsipas has been playing well and so has Coric.

Lets see. Coric is a pusher so i don't think he can do damage against Djokovic.

 

[beltsman]

About time we stopped pretending that Zverev is representative of the NextGen when you have Tsitsipas and Tiafoe doing stuff.

Tiafoe? Lmafo

 

[Deon Sanders]

Tiafoe? Lmafo

Just as many QFs as Zed

 

[Noletheking]

as i said it's not 0-4 , but 2-2 on HC

Yes out of these 2 1came at 2010 us open.

 

[beltsman]

Is there any other similar case to a young promising player that people used to talk so much and he felt so much pressure that he went on to win no slams?
I know people talked a lot about Gasquet when he was young, but I'm not sure he was ever a bet of anyone to win slams.

Gasquet?
Tsonga?
Haas?

Idk

 

[NoleFam]

Lets see. Coric is a pusher so i don't think he can do damage against Djokovic.

Coric may use to play that way but not anymore. He is not a pusher.

 

[beltsman]

Just as many QFs as Zed soon

And? The rest of his results? Tiafoe is a clown on the court.

 

[Tshooter]

I find all the ragging on younger players annoying and not very productive. The big 3 won't be around forever and we need to build up our new champions for the future of this great sport!

It’s rare to hear a complaint that the agent/PR/sponsor hype machine wasn’t doing enough.

 

[Noletheking]

Gasquet?
Tsonga?
Haas?

Idk

Rios , Nalbandian ,Dmitrov

 

[Vamos Rafa Nadal]

Zverev and his passive tennis during grand slam play..... Zverev would benefit from on court coaching, maybe next year at the AO 2020

Has anyone ever asked him why this keeps happening with him? If he loses this match, which seems likely, I hope they ask him in his press conference. It's frustrating that he implodes like this at Grand Slam tournaments and he needs to be called out on it.

 

[Noletheking]

Coric may use to play that way but not anymore. He is not a pusher.

His Fh says hello

 

[3fees]

Milos v Zverev 61,61,32

Cheers
3fees

 

[Deon Sanders]

And? The rest of his results? Tiafoe is a clown on the court.

He is younger

and already better at real tennis slams

Going places fast

 

[beltsman]

I love how Raonic (and his fans) think he's some sort of genius tactician for hitting floaty slices that Zverev implodes on. Fact is, Zverev gets up for the big players but gets nervous in slams. Raonic isn't a big player, and it's a slam, so this is the result. Low interest and high anxiety = disaster for Zverev. Raonic is doing nothing but getting lucky that a far more talented player is having mental issues at the moment.

 

[Vamos Rafa Nadal]

3rd seed after this tourney--He is passing Federer

Cheers
3fees

Which means I think that Djokovic will be in Federer's half of the draw and Zverev will be in Nadal's...

 

[NoleFam]

His Fh says hello

I think you need to watch more of his recent matches. He's improved that shot.