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Is it any better than last years FO for you, where Thiem bent over to Rafa?
2019 Indian Wells F - [4] Federer vs [7] Thiem
- Thread starter Im(moral) Winner
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Is it any better than last years FO for you, where Thiem bent over to Rafa?
underground
G.O.A.T.
A win here for Fed also puts him #2 in the race (455 points behind Djokovic)
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BrokenGears
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Since when has Del Po been easy for Fed
TheGhostOfAgassi
Talk Tennis Guru
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
Idk. I don't think he is. You'd have to ask all the Nadal & Djokovic fans who were complaining during last year's event.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Please direct your salt to Mallorca...will aid in the patellar therapy.
MajesticTennisManiac
Rookie
Federer was 7-0 against Del Potro at M1000 losing only 2 sets before last years final
stringertom
Bionic Poster
27. You left out The Real Slam.Just like he took those 20 even "bigger titles" he won.
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
They can’t be that soft. He hasn’t won a Masters title in a year and a half nor made even a semifinal at a slam in over a year.
True Fanerer
G.O.A.T.
The only chance Thiem has is if Federer tries to rally with him too often. I'm thinking Fed has more than enough variety for Thiem 6-3 7-6
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Proud soldier in the Germanic Mafia!
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Broken tears
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BrokenGears
Guest
Maybe because that's because he's both fallen a bit off and because he's got tougher opponents in the ones he doesn't win and the ones he did were extremely weak?
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BrokenGears
Guest
Lol, I can post joke opponents Fed has lost to as well, ofc age excuse, injury, mono, it's all the same with you hypocrites lol
Im(moral) Winner
G.O.A.T.
Take it easy
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BrokenGears
Guest
He's also had some historically tough matches and lost to him several times including in ATP Finals, slams, Baselxtwo
Right. I’m not saying he didn’t get a weak ass draw here, but he certainly hasn’t been vulturing “basically everything”. The opposite is more the case.
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BrokenGears
Guest
Ye you're right, whatever, Fed can have his IW, not gonna mean I like it
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BrokenGears
Guest
Shouldn't have used the words basically everything
mike danny
Bionic Poster
He hasn't won it yet. And besides, the guy is 37. Not his problem the tour sucks.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Yeah, the IW/Miami double in 2016 was so exciting....
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Federer will have too much variety for the kid I feel. Like tennisaddict said, he'll have to mix it up like he did against Stan.
He'll win in 2 if he does that IMO. Still not convinced the match actually means that much for Thiem even if he wins though, and it obviously doesn't mean all that much for Federer (he's won a load of these as it is). Don't see it translating to a slam win any time soon for Thiem tbh. I only hope Federer wins because I don't rate Thiem on a HC.
He'll win in 2 if he does that IMO. Still not convinced the match actually means that much for Thiem even if he wins though, and it obviously doesn't mean all that much for Federer (he's won a load of these as it is). Don't see it translating to a slam win any time soon for Thiem tbh. I only hope Federer wins because I don't rate Thiem on a HC.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Not sure how many people actually seriously said that though. Del Potro is obviously better than Thiem on a HC. It's not close IMO.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
I would never take anyone who said that seriously.
But I wouldn't take anyone seriously who says a 37 year old would "vulture" any tournament, which was the point I was trying to make to BrokenGears with his silly dig at Fed. It's all ridiculous.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Yeah, end of the day Fed should win, but he's 37 so it basically cancels out.
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BrokenGears
Guest
Djokovic had it tougher than Fed this yr in IW IMO, Miami remains to be seen even tho that was an extremely crap tourney
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BrokenGears
Guest
It's not a silly dig at all, it's perfectly legitimate and hiding behind the age excuse doesn't mean its ok for Fed to get easy opponents
mike danny
Bionic Poster
By this year, you mean 2016?
mike danny
Bionic Poster
IMO, so is Fed.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
This is probably his 2nd easiest draw at IW or so. It's ok.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Well, he was easy until RG in 2009 and in 2012 until RG.
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BrokenGears
Guest
Ye sorry
mike danny
Bionic Poster
At best, if Fed wins IW tomorrow, it will be close to Miami 2016 in terms of difficulty more or less.
Pheasant
Hall of Fame
Nothing is a given for old man Fed. Thiem actually played a great match against Raonic and has played quite well on this “almost as slow as clay” hard court tourney. And Fed moves like an elephant at his age.
I am picking Fed in 3. I think that Thiem will outplay Fed, but will choke away some key points to allow Fed to take home the title. If this were 2017 IW Fed, then Fed would demolish Thiem. But unfortunately, this is old man Fed.
This match has coinflip written all over it for me.
I am picking Fed in 3. I think that Thiem will outplay Fed, but will choke away some key points to allow Fed to take home the title. If this were 2017 IW Fed, then Fed would demolish Thiem. But unfortunately, this is old man Fed.
This match has coinflip written all over it for me.
Thiem wins the occasional match against Nadal because Rafa cannot play all clay tournaments with the same intensity anymore. I don’t want to say he tanked the matches, but he took Rome not fully seriously in 2017 and Madrid isn’t his best clay masters anyway. The other losses were in 2015 when he was in a slump and lost to many players.
But Nadal would never lose to Thiem at RG. Also I think Federer has a good match-up with Thiem despite his 2016 losses against him when Federer wasn’t really in form anywhere.
We will see what happens on clay, but I don’t think Federer will be very much inferior compared to the other surfaces. In 2015 when he took clay seriously the last time he lost to RG winner Wawrinka and to Djokovic in Rome. No shame about that.
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Deleted member 77403
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Federer was scheduled to meet Nadal in the semis and Djokovic in the finals. He turned up for both semis and finals, they did not, how exactly is it vulturing?
Lol.
I've watched both Djok and Nadal cruise to many an easy title. Works both ways.
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BrokenGears
Guest
Then by definition, Rafa's USO 2017 draw or Djokovic's USO 2018 draws were strong?
albertobra
Hall of Fame
101 titles for Fed. Add Basel, Wimby, Halle Shangai and Doha again.
Jimbo you até in sight.
Jimbo you até in sight.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Fed's draw here has turned out to be easy. No arguments here. But he still has to beat a guy 12 years his junior tomorrow. Let's hope he pulls it off.
MeatTornado
Talk Tennis Guru
So a 37 year old is still required to beat the #1 or #2 player in the world in order to be a legitimate title?
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Deleted member 77403
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Do you see me trash those draws? Not their fault others lost, were out of form, injured etc.
TopspintheTerrible
Hall of Fame
I don’t think Fed will have an easy match at all. Thiem played a solid, controlled match today. Unforced errors were kept to a minimum and his shot selection was much better than it has been.
After Fed got his 100th I felt satisfied. Would rather see him give us a few more matches to remember than cruise to more titles.
After Fed got his 100th I felt satisfied. Would rather see him give us a few more matches to remember than cruise to more titles.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Nah, if Fed can't even beat Thiem in a HC masters final, then he really doesn't deserve to win any big titles anymore.
Thiem is the best opponent Federer could have hoped for in a HC masters final.
If it were a true HC then yes.
So I'm not sure Thiem is the best opponent seeing as it's slowed right down. Suits his game style more than a few other guys, as we've seen with the results.
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