2019 Pune Final - [1] Kevin Anderson vs Ivo Karlovic

Who wins the title?

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BGod said:
Pioline was better than Philo for starters.

I'm pretty sure he's talking about Kevim Curren.
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Pioline was even more useless in his two finals than Anderson. He did win a masters and reached the top 8... three years after his second Slam final; as a finalist, Pioline was surely the most insipid in both achievements and performance. Curren, meanwhile, took sets off both Wilander and Becker, and he routined Mac and Connors back-to-back on his way to the latter, which is a glorious feat in itself.
 
mike danny said:
The other being Pioline?
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Yes.
Curren's time to shine was brief but his Slam runs were way better (straight-setted Lendl, Connors and McEnroe and took a set in both finals). Scud's runs were also easily better + his AO '96 teenage upset of PETE was spectacular even if he was basically a no-show for the next match.
 
It sickens me people mention Anderson as being the worst slam finalist who followed up his slam final in USO by reaching a Wimbledon final. Was no fluke as he followed up his slam final in USO.
 
Congrats to Anderson on winning his 6th title, 5th at 250 level and becoming the 1st top #10 ranked player to win an ATP title in 2019.

It was the tallest ATP final since Isner-Anderson at 2013 Atlanta and the tallest in ATP history. Unsurprisingly a 3 set tie-break affair, it was the 6th ATP final since 2009 to be decided in 3 set tie-breaks, the others being: 2012 Chennai (Raonic d. Tipsarevic), 2013 Atlanta (Isner d. Anderson), 2014 Queen's (Dimitrov d. Lopez), 2016 Newport (Karlovic d. Muller).
 
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AnOctorokForDinner said:
Pioline was even more useless in his two finals than Anderson. He did win a masters and reached the top 8... three years after his second Slam final; as a finalist, Pioline was surely the most insipid in both achievements and performance. Curren, meanwhile, took sets off both Wilander and Becker, and he routined Mac and Connors back-to-back on his way to the latter, which is a glorious feat in itself.
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Pioline the more complete career.

8 Quarters, 4 Semis, 2 Finals across 3 surfaces.

His two Finals runs:
Ferreira
Stevens
Rusedski
Stich
Sampras
&
Wilander
Courier
Medvedev
Masur
Sampras

Yeah he went 0-6 in sets against Sampras but was only broken once in 5 of them and it's Sampras on his best two fields.
 
I believe that this result will give Ivo main draw in AO without having to go through qualies. Is this correct?
It wouldn't bê kind to make a 40 year old go through 3 rounds of qualy.
 
BGod said:
Pioline the more complete career.

8 Quarters, 4 Semis, 2 Finals across 3 surfaces.

His two Finals runs:
Ferreira
Stevens
Rusedski
Stich
Sampras
&
Wilander
Courier
Medvedev
Masur
Sampras

Yeah he went 0-6 in sets against Sampras but was only broken once in 5 of them and it's Sampras on his best two fields.
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Wilander and Stich were way past it by then, Courier is the only great win.

Sampras is tough obviously but no fight at all either time, that's bad. The '93 USO is underrated as far as weak finals go, Pioline set an unfortunate record by double-faulting on BP four(!) times, that's the most in a Slam final as far as I'm aware.

Career-wise he was more well-rounded, but still not consistent enough to make it into the top 8 until long after his Slam final runs, which were not impressive except the Courier win, and his finals performance was nothing to write home about either.
 
Congrats to Anderson blnt Dr Ivo 7-6(4), 6-7(2), 7-6(5) - no breaks ,The Tallest final,6'8" Anderson ,6'11" Karlovic . Hopefully Dr Ivo can win some titles this year.

Cheers
3Fees :)
 
albertobra said:
I believe that this result will give Ivo main draw in AO without having to go through qualies. Is this correct?
It wouldn't bê kind to make a 40 year old go through 3 rounds of qualy.
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Red Rick said:
Wasn't the cutoff weeks ago?

But I think he was already in.
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He was inside the top 100 thanks to his challenger results so doesn't that mean he didn't have to qualify for the AO?
 
RF-18 said:
It sickens me people mention Anderson as being the worst slam finalist who followed up his slam final in USO by reaching a Wimbledon final. Was no fluke as he followed up his slam final in USO.
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RF-18 said:
It sickens me people mention Anderson as being the worst slam finalist who followed up his slam final in USO by reaching a Wimbledon final. Was no fluke as he followed up his slam final in USO.
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Sometimes lightning strikes twice.

You get Isner and Pablo Carreno Busta in Slam finals.

It's beyond hilarious.
 
Ivo is #69. I don't think the AO cutoff was weeks ago, it's usually a week before as otherwise would render all these 250s meaningless. I even think Aukland would grant a person a wildcard entry if they weren't in before but were inside 100.
 
mike danny said:
Ivo massively chocked the final set tiebreaker. I feel sorry for him.
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I think he serve and volleys too much. Even back in the day players did used to stay back some of the time otherwise it gets predictable. Ivo may not have the best forehand but it's good enough to put away a weak return into the open court. Instead he forces himself to keep volleying low as opponents start to read his serve better through the match.
 
BGod said:
Ivo is #69. I don't think the AO cutoff was weeks ago, it's usually a week before as otherwise would render all these 250s meaningless. I even think Aukland would grant a person a wildcard entry if they weren't in before but were inside 100.
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I think the ranking cutoff for tournaments is taken 6 weeks before the event so you do get some anomalies. Shapovalov had to go through qualifying a couple of years ago at the USO after beating Nadal in the Canadian Masters. There's 104 direct entrants (non wild cards or qualifiers) so Ivo should make the field without these ranking points from his previous ranking of 100.
 
The atmosphere of the final was surreal. Crowd were chanting "ivo" throughout the match and trophy ceremony. It was fun watching
 
Dolgopolov85 said:
I think he serve and volleys too much. Even back in the day players did used to stay back some of the time otherwise it gets predictable. Ivo may not have the best forehand but it's good enough to put away a weak return into the open court. Instead he forces himself to keep volleying low as opponents start to read his serve better through the match.
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Ivo needs to S&V every point. I know what you mean, though, because Anderson was doing a great job of neutralizing his serve -- putting it at Ivo's feet, and was very much in the zone. But Ivo doesn't have much a choice but to come to the net.
mike danny said:
Ivo came to the net way too many times. It costed him big.
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He doesn’t have a choice. Staying back for the sake of being unpredictable isn’t prudent when you’re losing 90% of those exchanges. His volleys were excellent off his first serve... even if he held back after his second serve, Anderson was making great returns — granted, he was in the zone with hitting them right at Ivo’s feet as he came to the net.

Watch Ivo play some matches on clay where he starts standing back on his second serve, and he’s hardly winning any points. Even on a hard court — when he played a disaster of a match against Ymer in Los Cabos last year, he was helpless when he decided not to come to the net. It’s inevitable that when you have only a few good weapons, like Karlovic, that someone like Anderson is going to neutralize them after they’ve gone deep into a match. Doesn’t mean you resort to a helpless plan B — that is standing back a bit to put away “weak” returns.
 
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Anderson 0/8 break points, Karlovic 0/0 (!), not my kind of tennis but quite an exhibition of serving.

If it’s not ‘your kind of tennis’ how come you have NK as your avatar?
I can’t answer that.
 
The Green Mile said:
From Challengers To History In Pune, Karlovic Going Strong At 39



One may wonder, how is Karlovic playing so well when he is less than two months away from turning 40 years old? He has finished between No. 20 and No. 101 in the year-end ATP Rankings for 16 consecutive seasons.
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Height doesn't deteriorate much with age.
 
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