2019 Queens QF: Tsitsipas vs Auger-Aliassime

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Gazelle said:
Tsitsipas still trying to break through but already getting overtaken by a guy 2 years younger than him. Poor ****.

FAA is probably the real deal (as we expected he would ever since we saw him winning his first challenger match at just age 14), provided that he can keep his mental demons under control and doesn't go full Cilic in that department.
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Never go full Cilic... in this case including growing in height (hopefully FAA has stopped growing as he seems to have reached the optimum elevation level as of right now).
 
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Moose Malloy said:
I think Sampras said he never played on grass until he played junior Wimbledon. I think that's sort of the norm for most pros since the 70s.
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Exactly, so that's what I'm talking about. There's an learning curve for players when they first arrive on tour.

I guess I just thought it was even more pronounced now but I guess it's been the same. Point still stands though.
 
EllieK said:
He's only 18. Doesn't turn 19 till August. No where near his peak and he has all the basics. I want to see some more matches against the top guys but I like what I am seeing so far. I also like his demeanor
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I think that's his sixth or seventh win against a Top 10 player. He certainly doesn't seem intimidated by them.
 
Moose Malloy said:
I think Sampras said he never played on grass until he played junior Wimbledon. I think that's sort of the norm for most pros since the 70s.
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Stefanos balance can be a bit off at times and grass probably shows this up more. Also his height. Safin wasn't the best on grass either. While Stefan moves well for his height, it still comes up short against the feline like Felix.
 
WhiskeyEE said:
He was hyped after clay season by people saying his style is better for grass. I said we haven't seen him on grass much yet. He doesn't have any big wins on it, had an easy draw at Wimbledon, etc.

So far it looks like he isn't a natural grass courter despite his playing style.
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Not every one hander is a grass court great like fed or samp
 
Gazelle said:
Tsitsipas still trying to break through but already getting overtaken by a guy 2 years younger than him. Poor ****.

FAA is probably the real deal (as we expected he would ever since we saw him winning his first challenger match at just age 14), provided that he can keep his mental demons under control and doesn't go full Cilic in that department.
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Why are you relating cilic with FAA??
 
Raiden said:
Never go full Cilic... in this case including growing in height (hopefully FAA has stopped growing as he seems to have reached the optimum elevation level as of right now).
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I am hoping he stays at 6’4. He moves very well. Don’t know if 6’6 would affect him.
 
metsman said:
Because Felix is actually a top tier athlete who is capable of playing the game at a different speed than Zverev, Tsitsipas, Thiem, Medvedev and co. We've waited over a decade for a raw talent like that, now I'm really hoping he reaches his potential.
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Yeah, would be really disappointed if he too ends up like lostboyz. Surely he has to be the one. Apart from his raw talent, also has incredible composure and amazing tennis IQ. These are the markers of a potential champion. Let's hope he WILL win slams.
 
Dolgopolov85 said:
Yeah, would be really disappointed if he too ends up like lostboyz. Surely he has to be the one. Apart from his raw talent, also has incredible composure and amazing tennis IQ. These are the markers of a potential champion. Let's hope he WILL win slams.
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He's a significantly better athlete than any lost boy (Dimitrov can impress with his full stretch skinny jeans moves, but he obviously doesn't have the quick feet and ability to move explosively in tight spaces like the true great movers do, and Felix looks like he might)
 
Sysyphus said:
dang, these are the words of a puppy who is thoroughly whipped.

Felix on his way to a 40–0 career H2H.
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Tsitsipas will post a lucid and magnificent instagram post overlooking some exotic setting with toucans flying around and some native folk feeding him melons asking questions about love and the meaning of life after every loss and will thus be the moral victor of every single one.
 
Legend of Borg said:
is FAA the real dealio guys?

what doth the TT experts sayeth?
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In my humble opinion, based on what I have seen from him in the past year, he is the real deal in terms
of a talented player that has the potential to be steady top 10 material.
He also has the potential to go much further and win many slams.

There still are some holes in his game, but the potential is there for sure.
Don't be surprised when he takes down ANY top player on tour.
It won't be because of a fluke.

Besides his explosive ground strokes, his serve really impresses me!
 
Yes, he is impressive. I also think he has potential to be a top 10 player. But, I felt the same way about Denis only a few months ago. Now, I'm uncertain. However, I am still cautiously optimistic. Why? Many youngsters have come up and been extraordinary for a short time only to fizzle out quickly. Injuries, illnesses, inability to remain consistent, the pressures of the tour, etc. All of these and others such as personal problems can turn a career around one way or the other. I hope for Felix he continues on his positive journey, but it's way too early to predict anything. Many players looked fantastic early on and then it just never happened for them. Some of them even won a slam or two and that was it. Luke Jensen for example won the French Open but never did anything else of consequence. Cilic has won one slam but ended up a runner-up other times. He's had a good career but I wouldn't call him an all time great. I'm waiting to see what happens through the rest of the year and the next few years.
 
prairiegirl said:
Yes, he is impressive. I also think he has potential to be a top 10 player. But, I felt the same way about Denis only a few months ago. Now, I'm uncertain.
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Shapo can be great to watch, but... he plays it a bit too big and fails at the very top level. FAA plays it more sensible, keeping it solid. To me, FAA looks like a complete player. Shapo still needs to grow up.
 
As I said elsewhere, Stefanos needn't be too hard on himself on this occasion. He got screwed by the schedule because of the rain delays and had to play 2 matches yesterday the 2nd of which was a long and close one. I guessed he would probably be a bit gassed today against an opponent as tough as Felix and I think it proved to be the case.
 
gogo said:
https://twitter.com/x/status/1142065709159264256
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Powerful stuff. Depressing, yet endearing. I don't know, I look at Felix and can but admire him, I mean his game and demeanor, and I can think, too (rather feel than think) that he is in some aspects better. And I wish him all the best. But there's no turning away from Tsits now, whatever. Better or not, he's just... different. Something of a player I've never seen before.
 
Mainad said:
As I said elsewhere, Stefanos needn't be too hard on himself on this occasion. He got screwed by the schedule because of the rain delays and had to play 2 matches yesterday the 2nd of which was a long and close one. I guessed he would probably be a bit gassed today against an opponent as tough as Felix and I think it proved to be the case.
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Stefanos had to finish his match against Edmund and then play Chardy yesterday, so he played 1.5 matches.

Uh... you do know Felix had to play two full matches yesterday, right?
 
Mainad said:
As I said elsewhere, Stefanos needn't be too hard on himself on this occasion. He got screwed by the schedule because of the rain delays and had to play 2 matches yesterday the 2nd of which was a long and close one. I guessed he would probably be a bit gassed today against an opponent as tough as Felix and I think it proved to be the case.
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But Felix played more tennis yesterday?
 
InvisibleSoul said:
Stefanos had to finish his match against Edmund and then play Chardy yesterday, so he played 1.5 matches.
Uh... you do know Felix had to play two full matches yesterday, right?
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Master_Funk said:
But Felix played more tennis yesterday?
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Okay, fair comments. It's just that I watched the Tsitsipas-Chardy match and Tsitsipas looked pretty gassed at the end of it. I thought then that he probably wouldn't have much left in the tank for today.
 
For me it was not the first set loss that broke Tsitsipas, it was the break point he had in the first game of the second set, when he should have been more aggressive, which he normally is, but he botched it, he knew he had very few chances on felix serve ( this was the point posted up thread where Tsitsipas is shrugging his shoulders)

Tsitsipas has said his favourite surface is grass because he is not afraid of the net, but I think it's a bit like Andy Murray in his early years saying his favourite surface was clay, Tsitsipas need to improve his serve and ROS on this surface,his movement is fine,I am sure he will work at it
Felix is hard to break and backs that up with powerful ground strokes and athletic abilities, but has yet to prove himself at a slam in B05 over the two weeks.

i don't think there will be any changing of the guard at Wimbledon this year ,but maybe soon one of these two will break through.
 
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March31 said:
Powerful stuff. Depressing, yet endearing. I don't know, I look at Felix and can but admire him, I mean his game and demeanor, and I can think, too (rather feel than think) that he is in some aspects better. And I wish him all the best. But there's no turning away from Tsits now, whatever. Better or not, he's just... different. Something of a player I've never seen before.
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There's no law that says you have to like Felix better than Stef. We all like certain players for reasons that are ones that resonate with us. It's not about picking the best player, but just being a fan of whoever you want.
Cheers!
 
EllieK said:
He's very self deprecating here. Maybe too much so. He definitely over thinks things. Its a good thing to think of what you need to change in your own game, but maybe not so much of the "he's better than me"
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IIRC Agassi used to beat Petros in juniors. it came as a shock to him when Petros whopped him in the USO final. This is the thing I don't like so much about Stefanos, that he gives up too soon. I thought he was getting over it this year but apparently not.
 
Maybe it's a culture thing, that Stefanos speaks so openly like that. I don't think he genuinely feels like he'll never beat Felix again and that he may as well give up. He just seems like a very genuine, thoughtful person. He has accomplished a lot at young age. Guy's not a loser. He just has to figure out Felix, who at this point is his nemesis.
 
HetTheGreaterer said:
Why are you relating cilic with FAA??
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FAA has shown some mental fragility in important moments (despite good results). Failing to serve out two sets against Isner in Miami, having lost all his finals so far (although some due to bad luck)...He seems a bit too tense at times.

Now he's only 18 and might improve on this, or he might not. Time will tell. Cilic never stopped being an epic choker, let's hope FAA doesn't follow the same path.
 
Down_the_line said:
Maybe it's a culture thing, that Stefanos speaks so openly like that. I don't think he genuinely feels like he'll never beat Felix again and that he may as well give up. He just seems like a very genuine, thoughtful person. He has accomplished a lot at young age. Guy's not a loser. He just has to figure out Felix, who at this point is his nemesis.
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Probably a little cultural and also Stefanos seems to sort of troll his own weakness,if that makes sense
I think both guys will achieve a status in the game in years to come, I hope so because they show so much promise, hope nothing derails that.
 
March31 said:
... I look at Felix and can but admire him, I mean his game and demeanor, and I can think, too (rather feel than think) that he is in some aspects better. And I wish him all the best. But there's no turning away from Tsits now, whatever. Better or not, he's just... different. Something of a player I've never seen before.
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Can you put into words exactly what it is that you see in Tsitsi that you have never seen before?
 
Latetothegame said:
Probably a little cultural and also Stefanos seems to sort of troll his own weakness,if that makes sense
I think both guys will achieve a status in the game in years to come, I hope so because they show so much promise, hope nothing derails that.
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He gets very down on himself. Seeing and working on weaknesses you can improve is one thing, but getting down on yourself like that is quite different.
 
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