Uh...... well, maybe. How many times have we seen somebody get zoned and beat some big name player and then fade? E.g., remember Sloan Stephens winning the USO? We'll see, we'll see.I think it's clear now that Medvedev will be the next big thing in tennis as the Big 3 decline.
Nadal's not retiring until Federer and Djokovic retire. He needs the slam record and he still has to fight off the other guys to get it. Australia is Djokovic territory and it's very possible Djokovic will be getting #17 there and closing the gap on Fedal.That is why I think he will retire.
Mike were you pleased with the match? Wish I could have eaten cheap food with youNadal's not retiring until Federer and Djokovic retire. He needs the slam record and he still has to fight off the other guys to get it. Australia is Djokovic territory and it's very possible Djokovic will be getting #17 there and closing the gap on Fedal.
I'd like to think (hope) this is contagious. Seeing Dimitrov and Rublev dispatch Fed, Djokovic losing to Med and nearly taking out Nadal...I'd hope this rubs off on them.Medvedev's performance today is what we have been expecting from the likes of Zverev, Khachanov and Thiem by this point against the big 3. They should all be right there in the deep stages of the Slams. But still the NextGen are clowns with no consistency.
I think the prior gen is a lost cause (Dimi, Nishi, Raonic, etc). Maybe this current gen of Med, Zverev, Thiem and Khach might be able to push through. Maybe...I'd like to think (hope) this is contagious. Seeing Dimitrov and Rublev dispatch Fed, Djokovic losing to Med and nearly taking out Nadal...I'd hope this rubs off on them.
Lol a bit like me. Infact I was bemoaning the quality after 2 sets and then woke up in the middle of the 5th set asking folks what happened in between!
At this point it is unreasonable to deny that Nadal is far more accomplished in the SnV department than the likes of Sampras and Edberg.
Look at those net stats especially. Daniil was also 22/29 on serve/volley points. Not sure what Rafa was, but he also serve/volleyed 20-25 times this match with a very high success rate. In Rafa's case, he really exploited Daniil's 1st serve position on the ad side, and majority of his serve/volley points came when he swung his serve out wide and moved forward behind it. Very predictable but efficient play, he must have gone out wide over 90% of time on the ad side. Daniil did nothing much to counter this. So many freebies for Rafa with that serve today.
Daniil serve/volley points were a little more spread out across the court, but he played them well nevertheless. Often on big points as well and majority of them after the first couple of sets. As well as 74 net points, not too shabby for somebody who has struggled greatly with net play and finesse in the past. I think we'll see his net play and volleying dip back down after today, but it's great to see him employing so many different tactics.
Medvedev’s fight was incredible. Even great players like Djokovic and Murray didn’t show as much heart in their first slam finals.All I can do is give kudos to both players, no matter what you think the quality of the match was (a lot of people were complaining early on). Nadal pulled through for his 19th slam - and that's no small feat - he was feeling real pressure as Medvedev worked his way back into the match. We think the Big 3 aren't human but they are - they get nervous/tight, they get tired. Nadal was facing the prospect of blowing an 0-2 lead to someone in their first Slam final. But, he prevailed. Medvedev did what NO other youngster (or anyone else for that matter outside Wawrinka and the other members of the Big 3/4) has done - keep grinding. The fact that he was down 2 sets and a break and never phoned it in. And, he was down 2-5, two breaks in the fifth and kept on competing, fighting and nearly got it to 5-5. He deserves a ton of respect. What seemed like a mundane final turned into a great match.
Why are you here then? For the sheet posting?Could not care less.
If I wanted to see two guys hitting from 2m behind the baseline until one makes an unforced error, I'd watch the French.
Haven't done that in over 30 years, so won't be watching this either.
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He started with what he finds most comfortable. Obviously, he’s going to play to his strengths. The fact that he switched tactics at all is a testament to his tennis IQ. And it nearly got the job done. In his first major final, against a guy who’s won 18 of them. After being down two sets to love. I really don’t see any way to criticize Medvedev after this performance, beyond a little nitpicking here and there.It became a close match after Med changed tactics around the third set.
But that should have been obvious going in . Yet, Med still decided to waste time in the beginning hanging out behind the baseline and grinding.
Really had a chance to win this with the right attacking strategy from the very start.
By "attacking" I mean occasional serve and volley, and chip and charge, and follow shots to the net (instead of backpedaling 20 feet).
None of that was there in the beginning. Just chose to grind against the GOAT grinder.
What are your thoughts on the “cheating” comments. Was a huge reason Rafa got the two breaks in the second set right?Congratulations to both on producing quite the final, I wasn't expecting it to be such a crazy ride. Congratulations to Nadal for winning number 19, incredible and take a bow Medvedev for your first grand slam final. I think many more will be coming in his future.