2019 US Open Men's Final :- [2] Rafael Nadal (Spain) v/s [5] Daniil Medvedev (Russia)

Match result prediction poll

  • Rafa in 3

    Votes: 36 29.0%
  • Rafa in 4

    Votes: 43 34.7%
  • Rafa in 5

    Votes: 5 4.0%
  • Daniil in 3

    Votes: 5 4.0%
  • Daniil in 4

    Votes: 25 20.2%
  • Daniil in 5

    Votes: 10 8.1%

  • Total voters
    124
  • Poll closed .

Ruark

Professional
I think it's clear now that Medvedev will be the next big thing in tennis as the Big 3 decline.
Uh...... well, maybe. How many times have we seen somebody get zoned and beat some big name player and then fade? E.g., remember Sloan Stephens winning the USO? We'll see, we'll see.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
That is why I think he will retire.
Nadal's not retiring until Federer and Djokovic retire. He needs the slam record and he still has to fight off the other guys to get it. Australia is Djokovic territory and it's very possible Djokovic will be getting #17 there and closing the gap on Fedal.
 

MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Nadal's not retiring until Federer and Djokovic retire. He needs the slam record and he still has to fight off the other guys to get it. Australia is Djokovic territory and it's very possible Djokovic will be getting #17 there and closing the gap on Fedal.
Mike were you pleased with the match? Wish I could have eaten cheap food with you :p
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
Medvedev's performance today is what we have been expecting from the likes of Zverev, Khachanov and Thiem by this point against the big 3. They should all be right there in the deep stages of the Slams. But still the NextGen are clowns with no consistency.
 

James P

Legend
Medvedev's performance today is what we have been expecting from the likes of Zverev, Khachanov and Thiem by this point against the big 3. They should all be right there in the deep stages of the Slams. But still the NextGen are clowns with no consistency.
I'd like to think (hope) this is contagious. Seeing Dimitrov and Rublev dispatch Fed, Djokovic losing to Med and nearly taking out Nadal...I'd hope this rubs off on them.
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
I'd like to think (hope) this is contagious. Seeing Dimitrov and Rublev dispatch Fed, Djokovic losing to Med and nearly taking out Nadal...I'd hope this rubs off on them.
I think the prior gen is a lost cause (Dimi, Nishi, Raonic, etc). Maybe this current gen of Med, Zverev, Thiem and Khach might be able to push through. Maybe...
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
The 2020 season is going to be the most anticipated season in history! :) The big 3 should just pack it in and rest for 4 months. Although it's very likely Nadal might try to kill himself to get that #1 ranking.
 
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Deleted member 763691

Guest
2019 US Open Final
Net Points Won:
Nadal 51/66
Medvedev 50/74
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2019 Wimbledon Final
Net Points Won:
Federer 51/65
Djokovic 24/38
 

Mike Sams

G.O.A.T.
I don't really see anything all that special in Rublev. I don't see that fighting spirit in him really. I think Tsitsipas, Berretini, Zverev, Medvedev, Thiem and Khachanov might be able to make inroads in 2020. But it would take a collective effort meaning that the likes of Nadal and Djokovic respectively will have trouble going through 2 of these young guys if the guys really bring the heat in the Slams. Similar to what happened to Nadal at USO last year when Khachanov and Thiem broke him down.
 

Azure

Legend
Damn at 2-0 I switched off and went to sleep knowing Rafa had surely secured the title... Woke up to this epic. Wow... Vamos!
Lol a bit like me. Infact I was bemoaning the quality after 2 sets and then woke up in the middle of the 5th set asking folks what happened in between!
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
It became a close match after Med changed tactics around the third set.
But that should have been obvious going in . Yet, Med still decided to waste time in the beginning hanging out behind the baseline and grinding.
Really had a chance to win this with the right attacking strategy from the very start.
By "attacking" I mean occasional serve and volley, and chip and charge, and follow shots to the net (instead of backpedaling 20 feet).
None of that was there in the beginning. Just chose to grind against the GOAT grinder.
 

The Green Mile

Bionic Poster


Look at those net stats especially. Daniil was also 22/29 on serve/volley points. Not sure what Rafa was, but he also serve/volleyed 20-25 times this match with a very high success rate. In Rafa's case, he really exploited Daniil's 1st serve position on the ad side, and majority of his serve/volley points came when he swung his serve out wide and moved forward behind it. Very predictable but efficient play, he must have gone out wide over 90% of time on the ad side. Daniil did nothing much to counter this. So many freebies for Rafa with that serve today.

Daniil serve/volley points were a little more spread out across the court, but he played them well nevertheless. Often on big points as well and majority of them after the first couple of sets. As well as 74 net points, not too shabby for somebody who has struggled greatly with net play and finesse in the past. I think we'll see his net play and volleying dip back down after today, but it's great to see him employing so many different tactics.
 

SoBad

G.O.A.T.


Look at those net stats especially. Daniil was also 22/29 on serve/volley points. Not sure what Rafa was, but he also serve/volleyed 20-25 times this match with a very high success rate. In Rafa's case, he really exploited Daniil's 1st serve position on the ad side, and majority of his serve/volley points came when he swung his serve out wide and moved forward behind it. Very predictable but efficient play, he must have gone out wide over 90% of time on the ad side. Daniil did nothing much to counter this. So many freebies for Rafa with that serve today.

Daniil serve/volley points were a little more spread out across the court, but he played them well nevertheless. Often on big points as well and majority of them after the first couple of sets. As well as 74 net points, not too shabby for somebody who has struggled greatly with net play and finesse in the past. I think we'll see his net play and volleying dip back down after today, but it's great to see him employing so many different tactics.
At this point it is unreasonable to deny that Nadal is far more accomplished in the SnV department than the likes of Sampras and Edberg.
 

tudwell

Legend
All I can do is give kudos to both players, no matter what you think the quality of the match was (a lot of people were complaining early on). Nadal pulled through for his 19th slam - and that's no small feat - he was feeling real pressure as Medvedev worked his way back into the match. We think the Big 3 aren't human but they are - they get nervous/tight, they get tired. Nadal was facing the prospect of blowing an 0-2 lead to someone in their first Slam final. But, he prevailed. Medvedev did what NO other youngster (or anyone else for that matter outside Wawrinka and the other members of the Big 3/4) has done - keep grinding. The fact that he was down 2 sets and a break and never phoned it in. And, he was down 2-5, two breaks in the fifth and kept on competing, fighting and nearly got it to 5-5. He deserves a ton of respect. What seemed like a mundane final turned into a great match.
Medvedev’s fight was incredible. Even great players like Djokovic and Murray didn’t show as much heart in their first slam finals.
 
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Deleted member 763691

Guest
Its better that Rafa had this 5-setter instead of a straight sets win :)
Rafa needed to win a tight 5-setter in a slam final, to build confidence, after losing 2018wim SF, 2017ao final, 2012ao final.
 

tudwell

Legend
It became a close match after Med changed tactics around the third set.
But that should have been obvious going in . Yet, Med still decided to waste time in the beginning hanging out behind the baseline and grinding.
Really had a chance to win this with the right attacking strategy from the very start.
By "attacking" I mean occasional serve and volley, and chip and charge, and follow shots to the net (instead of backpedaling 20 feet).
None of that was there in the beginning. Just chose to grind against the GOAT grinder.
He started with what he finds most comfortable. Obviously, he’s going to play to his strengths. The fact that he switched tactics at all is a testament to his tennis IQ. And it nearly got the job done. In his first major final, against a guy who’s won 18 of them. After being down two sets to love. I really don’t see any way to criticize Medvedev after this performance, beyond a little nitpicking here and there.
 

WarriorRafa

Professional
Holy moly where to start. Cant believe Rafa won. It was a very jittery performance from him. Needs to improve his big point play especially with FH and serve.Some of the misses were painful to watch. Just glad he got it done in the end. Also love seeing all the haters moaning and crying. As for Rafa I hope he takes a long break, forget about YE#1, maybe just play Paris+WTF and focus on 2020.

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Crionics

Semi-Pro
I went to bed during the middle of the 4th set and woke up a couple of hours to see that Nadal won in 5 sets! Damn, this went to 5 sets! He should have won in 3, but he let Medvedev back in the match after breaking him and getting a bit too relaxed. I am so happy Nadal finally managed to score an important 5-sets win. He has had so many tough losses in 5 sets over the last couple of years.
As for Medvedev, I think he will beat Nadal regularly in a not-so-distant future. The difference in level between the Montreal and US Open finals were like light and day; He still needs to work on certain aspects of his game, but he will get there and will be a nightmare for Nadal (and for Djokovic too by the way). I was also very impressed to see how well he anticipated where Nadal's shots were landing and how much grit, fight and composure he showed.
 
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Deleted member 77403

Guest
Congratulations to both on producing quite the final, I wasn't expecting it to be such a crazy ride. Congratulations to Nadal for winning number 19, incredible and take a bow Medvedev for your first grand slam final. I think many more will be coming in his future.
 

aldeayeah

Legend
I have to say sorry to Rafa - I didn't believe he had this kind of epic left in him. When he lost the fourth I was expecting swift defeat in the fifth. How wrong I was.
 
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Congratulations to both on producing quite the final, I wasn't expecting it to be such a crazy ride. Congratulations to Nadal for winning number 19, incredible and take a bow Medvedev for your first grand slam final. I think many more will be coming in his future.
What are your thoughts on the “cheating” comments. Was a huge reason Rafa got the two breaks in the second set right?
 
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