2019 US Open Men's Final :- [2] Rafael Nadal (Spain) v/s [5] Daniil Medvedev (Russia)

Match result prediction poll

  • Rafa in 3

    Votes: 36 29.0%
  • Rafa in 4

    Votes: 43 34.7%
  • Rafa in 5

    Votes: 5 4.0%
  • Daniil in 3

    Votes: 5 4.0%
  • Daniil in 4

    Votes: 25 20.2%
  • Daniil in 5

    Votes: 10 8.1%

  • Total voters
    124
  • Poll closed .

LETitBE

Hall of Fame
I thought as well but then he proved that he can stay with RAFA from the baseline and that heavy massive topspin shots from nadal didn't bother him. And actually for last 2 sets, he moved better than Rafa and was faster moving out to wide angle shots.
bad news for nads in future?
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
bad news for nads in future?
But still Rafa will have the advantage on Clay courts. but on hard courts, Danill will have better chances to beat rafa. But then he still has to go thru Novak and Roger most likely to win one of these majors. and not sure if he will get injured like Novak, since his game is extremely grueling and tough on the body.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Even at young age, his technique is very good here where he keeps his head very still and eyes on the ball. his shoulders are flying out early which is technique flaw but Rafa gets away with that since he hits so many forehands with open stance, which is something I would not recommend to amateurs.
 
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LETitBE

Hall of Fame
But still Rafa will have the advantage on Clay courts. but on hard courts, Danill will have better chances to beat rafa. But then he still has to go thru Novak and Roger most likely to win one of these majors. and not sure if he will get injured like Novak, since his game is extremely grueling and tough on the body.
the other younger guys will see this and think they have a chance too yes?
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
the other younger guys will see this and think they have a chance too yes?
Well not sure. most of these younger guys have much worse shot tolerance than Rafa so they can't stay with him from the baseline. so only hope they have is to just hit huge shots early in the point and blow away rafa. and that is very tough to do. Only guys in the world now that have as good or higher shot tolerance than rafa is Novak and Danill, and Federer when he is healthy.
 

cucio

Legend
It was a very entertaining, dramatic match, with a lot of ups and downs from both guys. Nadal at some points looked like he was going to puke and Daniil looked like he was wrestling with himself to keep the coolest poker face.

However, going by the quality of tennis I wouldn't rate this one as a classic.

At some point during the third set Rafa's backhand went on vacation to Majorca, it was the weirdest thing. Before it was nothing amazing, but he was producing consistently deep topspin and slices, with the ocasional crosscourt zinger. And all of a sudden all it came from that side was short, loopy sitters, to the point he started running around it until he regained confidence after 2-2 in the fifth. His patterns started to get too predictable and Daniil pounced on it, camping on his backhand side and punishing Rafa. That return of first serve on break point in the third set sent a loud and clear message. From then on Nadal started to mix up his serve again a bit. I don't think I have ever seen him S&V so often, but it was good tactics from him, since without a reliable backhand he was getting owned in the rallies.

Regarding gamesmanship, I agree with the poster that said it went a bit both ways: Medvedev was also rushing the points forward Roddick-style, barely giving time to his opponent to get ready. Server pace is and should be a thing, but it can certainly be a fine line.

The match could really have gone either way (or could have been done unceremoniously in the third set), it all came down to very few points and we would be looking at very different scenarios, regarding the vaunted GS tally record.

It is perhaps early to say, but Medvedev does look like the real thing. Great power, variety, ability to change directions, endurance and an earnest willingness to improve on the mental aspects of the game. His backhand held well against Rafa's topspin forehand. This may be a breakthrough moment for him, here's hoping, we need more challengers.
 

zep

Hall of Fame
I aged 5 years after watching this match. Reminded me of the Nadal Djokovic gladiatorial battles. I never knew Medvedev had it in him to push Nadal to the absolute limits. In fact he was almost done. If he had lost serve at 5-4 he would have lost the match.
 

a10best

Hall of Fame
the other younger guys will see this and think they have a chance too yes?
Med beat Djokovic in Cinincinatti and hung with Rafa. All they believe right now is Med is for real, and that they will have to go through Med and the big 2.
Furthermore, I believe they think they can beat Roger because of his age.
 

I Am Finnish

Talk Tennis Guru
MedEvil did better than I thought:oops:
Not bad for someone who despises BO5

The most of us expected that nadal would routine him in straights but we underestimated him :D I can see him winning a slam before Doublefaultrev & shoeshoepas imo

I enjoyed him during this tournament :-D
 

Tennis Rules

Semi-Pro
was a short night after this great match - especially set 4 and 5 (andsecond hlf 3rd set).
never thought that medvedev would push nadal to his limit. he was very close on the victory....but nadal is the ultimate warrior.
in shootmaking he wasn´t at his best and was many times to short or sliced not dangerous enough. then he had to play without a real first serve the whole match because of the time violation at first game of the match!!!
too all they said that nadal don´t hurry up his service...he did serve very quikly. i dont like these clock thing every time when nadal is playing. let him play!!!
medvedev on the other site is the opposite.

at the end it was a deserved victory for nadal and his 4th us open title and 19th grand slam....unbelieveable!!!!

VAMOS

big credits to medvedev for this match
 

clayqueen

Talk Tennis Guru
The Next Gen need to play Nadal in a BO5 to 'cut their teeth'. I'm referring to normal tennis players not the likes of Kyrgios who is bent on self destruction. Rafa puts all his opponents into beast mode because he doesn't let up; they have to deserve every point they win and to do that they have to be focussed and push themselves to the limit.
 

zvelf

Professional
Uh...... well, maybe. How many times have we seen somebody get zoned and beat some big name player and then fade? E.g., remember Sloan Stephens winning the USO? We'll see, we'll see.
Stephens beat #15 Madison Keys, #9 Venus Williams, and #16 Anastasija Sevastova to win the U.S. Open. That's a pretty weak draw and not proof of trial by fire. Medvedev beat Djokovic in Cincinnati and gave Nadal all he could handle here.
 
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Deleted member 763691

Guest
I went to bed during the middle of the 4th set and woke up a couple of hours to see that Nadal won in 5 sets! Damn, this went to 5 sets! He should have won in 3, but he let Medvedev back in the match after breaking him and getting a bit too relaxed. I am so happy Nadal finally managed to score an important 5-sets win. He has had so many tough losses in 5 sets over the last couple of years.
As for Medvedev, I think he will beat Nadal regularly in a not-so-distant future. The difference in level between the Montreal and US Open finals were like light and day; He still needs to work on certain aspects of his game, but he will get there and will be a nightmare for Nadal (and for Djokovic too by the way). I was also very impressed to see how well he anticipated where Nadal's shots were landing and how much grit, fight and composure he showed.
Medvedev will probably never beat Rafa at Roland Garros :)
He might beat Rafa at a hardcourt slam, but that's nothing significant, considering Rafa has lost to Fognini and Pouille at the US Open already.....
 
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Deleted member 763691

Guest
:rolleyes:

Now this is a problem.. now RAFA will go and get married and Shut down for the rest of the year and won't see him again til next year's Australian open... and maybe he will just concentrate on making babies for the rest of the year
:cry:
Wedding only takes ONE day, and the honeymoon is negotiable for whenever, so we'll see Rafa at the Laver Cup, Shanghai and London :)
 

aldeayeah

Legend
I thought as well but then he proved that he can stay with RAFA from the baseline and that heavy massive topspin shots from nadal didn't bother him. And actually for last 2 sets, he moved better than Rafa and was faster moving out to wide angle shots.
The court was super slow. I don't know what would have happened on a faster court where it were easier to hit service/baseline winners. We probably wouldn't have seen so many net points, to start with.
 

glenWs

Rookie
A decade listening to Federer, Nadal and Djokovic telling "young prospects" that they'll "win this in the future for sure" and then they (more often than not) don't.
I'm already seeing "Medvedev will win 10 Slams" threads popping up.
Hilarious.
An entire generation or two blocked...because they came up at the wrong time.
 

vanioMan

Legend

Rickenbacker4003

Hall of Fame
Rafa spoke about a friend of his who lost a child. What was the name "Gary Malame"???? I honestly couldn't understand but who's this? Someone from tennis?
Karim Alami. Former top 20-30 player from Morocco. He came up around the same time as Hicham Arazi and Younes El Aynaoui in the 90's. He would take care of Rafa whenever he played Dubai. He lost his son.
 

Rickenbacker4003

Hall of Fame
Medvedev will probably never beat Rafa at Roland Garros :)
He might beat Rafa at a hardcourt slam, but that's nothing significant, considering Rafa has lost to Fognini and Pouille at the US Open already.....
And Fed lost to a lot more since 2008, including John Millman and Tommy Robredo at the USO.
 
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