2019 US Open - Women's Singles - General Discussion

Who gets the title?


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AM75

Hall of Fame
Carlos Ramos Banned From Officiating Williams Sisters Matches at US Open After 2018 Controversy.
New York: Carlos Ramos will not officiate any US Open matches involving Serena or Venus Williams in the wake of last year's "bittersweet" women's final controversy involving Serena and Naomi Osaka. US Tennis Association president Stacey Allaster had announced that Ramos would not umpire any Williams family matches. <...>
 

PDJ

G.O.A.T.
Carlos Ramos Banned From Officiating Williams Sisters Matches at US Open After 2018 Controversy.
New York: Carlos Ramos will not officiate any US Open matches involving Serena or Venus Williams in the wake of last year's "bittersweet" women's final controversy involving Serena and Naomi Osaka. US Tennis Association president Stacey Allaster had announced that Ramos would not umpire any Williams family matches. <...>
Sums it up:
"Bitter" - Williams
"Sweet" - Osaka
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
BBC Commentators prior to the Wimbledon Final also did, although a few had reservations.
Serena's been the favourite in every one of her slam finals since her pregnancy. It's just a matter of her opponent.

Kerber had nothing to lose,
Ditto for Osaka as a young newcomer.
Halep also had nothing to lose after finally winning her first slam.

Serena has to face a massive choker like Svitolina or Bertens or hell maybe even Pliskova.

I have a feeling Serena might finally overtake Margaret but I wouldn't dare lay money on it.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Just had a look at the live rankings and as it currently stands:

Bianca Andreescu is set to make her top 10 debut. Before any results happen, she's up to #9 in the world.

In terms of rankings we're at:
#1 Barty
#2: Pliskova
#3 Halep
#4 Osaka
#5 Kvitova
#6 Svitolina
#7 Bertens
#8 Bencic
#9 Svitolina
#10 Bertwns
#11 Kerber
#12 Sabalenka
#13 Konta
#14 Serena
#15 Wang
 
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boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
Carlos Ramos Banned From Officiating Williams Sisters Matches at US Open After 2018 Controversy.
New York: Carlos Ramos will not officiate any US Open matches involving Serena or Venus Williams in the wake of last year's "bittersweet" women's final controversy involving Serena and Naomi Osaka. US Tennis Association president Stacey Allaster had announced that Ramos would not umpire any Williams family matches. <...>

Nice to know the tournament stands behinds its officials. What a joke.
 

boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
Just had a look at the live rankings and as it currently stands:

Bianca Andreescu is set to make her top 10 debut. Before any results happen, she's up to #9 in the world.

In terms of rankings we're at:
#1 Barty
#2: Pliskova
#3 Halep
#4 Osaka
#5 Kvitova
#6 Svitolina
#7 Bertens
#8 Bencic
#9 Svitolina
#10 Bertwns
#11 Kerber
#12 Sabalenka
#13 Konta
#14 Serena
#15 Wang

Good for her. She would be there already if not for all her injuries between her 2 big title wins. She really has no where to go but up since her year has been a roller coaster.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Which penalty should the Referee have over-ruled?
That Game penalty in the 2nd set. That was probably unnecessary. She didn't swear at the umpire or anything. she was just arguing that she wasn't coached during the changeover.
 

PDJ

G.O.A.T.
That Game penalty in the 2nd set. That was probably unnecessary. She didn't swear at the umpire or anything. she was just arguing that she wasn't coached during the changeover.
Hmmmmmm
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Hmmmmmm
Liar and Thief............ok that is not nice words. but ATP tour players say much worse things to Umpires and dont' get any warning. I heard players call umpire "Incompetent", "Blind", "Not paying attention to the match". and nothing happens... So yea, Carlos could have restrained himself from making that 3rd game penalty call... and Refree could have reversed that one.
 

PDJ

G.O.A.T.
Liar and Thief............ok that is not nice words. but ATP tour players say much worse things to Umpires and dont' get any warning. I heard players call umpire "Incompetent", "Blind", "Not paying attention to the match". and nothing happens... So yea, Carlos could have restrained himself from making that 3rd game penalty call... and Refree could have reversed that one.
They should have blanket warnings for both genders. Two wrongs don't make a right.
And I fail to see how she couldn't get a warning and penalty - she'd already had others. That's on her.
 

boredone3456

G.O.A.T.
Liar and Thief............ok that is not nice words. but ATP tour players say much worse things to Umpires and dont' get any warning. I heard players call umpire "Incompetent", "Blind", "Not paying attention to the match". and nothing happens... So yea, Carlos could have restrained himself from making that 3rd game penalty call... and Refree could have reversed that one.

I am pretty sure there is something in the rules about not questioning the judgement call of an official after a challenge or something of the sort. Serena went on and on, into the changeover, and wouldn't stop. Venting is one thing but carrying on the way she did was unnecessary. Also, calling him a liar when he clearly saw what happened, then called her out, correctly, for throwing a fit and smashing her racket? No, sorry, there are rules and he enforced them. The Tournament doing this is basically sending a message that he was wrong in everything that he did and sends a message to players they can apparently just carry on however they see fit.
 
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Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
I am pretty sure there is something in the rules about not questioning the judgement call of an official after a challenge or something of the sort. Serena went on and on, into the changeover, and wouldn't stop. Venting is one thing but carrying on the way she did was unnecessary. Also, calling him a liar when he clearly saw what happened, then called her out, correctly, for throwing a fit and smashing her racket? No, sorry, there are rules and he enforced them. The Tournament doing this is basically sending a message that he was wrong in everything that he did and sends a message to players they can apparently just carry on however they see fit.

as long as serena didn't make threats to Carlos like she did to that lines woman in the past year, I don't see why she should get a game penalty at that point.
 

AM75

Hall of Fame
Liar and Thief............ok that is not nice words. but ATP tour players say much worse things to Umpires and dont' get any warning. I heard players call umpire "Incompetent", "Blind", "Not paying attention to the match". and nothing happens... So yea, Carlos could have restrained himself from making that 3rd game penalty call... and Refree could have reversed that one.

It was discussed to death a year ago, but basically "liar" and "thief" question referee's integrity, while things like "blind" and "incompetent" doesn't.
 

elkwood

Hall of Fame
if your in the us i think u need to have espn+ to watch it. Otherwise u
will have to find one of the other sites that stream it. Just make sure you
using a good ad blocker/ protection
 

Russeljones

Talk Tennis Guru
The grass was slow(er), but the finals outcome (to examine one match) had little to do with that. It was--more than anything else--a player finally learning how to outplay the other.
Rubbish. Halep hung on in rallies, not only in the final, by virtue of getting time from the surface. Ludicrous to suggest she evolved.
 

Mark-Touch

Legend
Konta - Kasatkina

I love Konta's game.

She's easy on the eyes, gives great............interviews,
goes for her shots, is quiet on court, has power off both sides,
very decent serve, excellent mover. Good thinker. :)
 

Tanya

Hall of Fame
Konta - Kasatkina

I love Konta's game.

She's easy on the eyes, gives great............interviews,
goes for her shots, is quiet on court, has power off both sides,
very decent serve, excellent mover. Good thinker. :)
Konta's game reminds me a bit of Muguruza. Both hit big off both wings, but they also have awkward/rigid strokes that only work when they're playing well. When having an off day, they can lose to anyone. Personally I think the strokes are ugly but to each his own.
 

flyingboris

Legend
Oh god.. Garcia is one game from going down to Ons. The woman can't catch a break..

Edit: and out she goes, Ons takes it 7-6(8) 6-2. I feel bad for Garcia, but excited to see how far Ons manages to go this year!
 

PDJ

G.O.A.T.
Oh god.. Garcia is one game from going down to Ons. The woman can't catch a break..

Edit: and out she goes, Ons takes it 7-6(8) 6-2. I feel bad for Garcia, but excited to see how far Ons manages to go this year!
What a shame. She was so lovely when I met her briefly.
 
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