2019 Wilson Blade

ChaelAZ

Legend
Lol, exactly! Actually I was doing Geometry with my youngest son and it was sitting there. But I did use it for the butt cap
 
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djpj

New User
Got a chance to hit few hours with the Blade 16x19 v7 today at Arcadia Tennis Center. Normal racket and setup is a Yonex DR 98 with VS gut 16 gauge mains@48lbs/Yonex Poly Tour Pro 17 gauge crosses@45lbs. I used to use a full set of Alu Power Rough on the Yonex until I discovered the benefits of gut hybrid setup. Yonex has some tungsten around 10 and 2 to bring the weight up to 11.8oz strung

Strung up the Blade with Alu Power Rough 16L at 45lbs for both mains and crosses. I didn't want to use gut until I felt more committed to the Blade. Blade strung up came in at 11.3oz. Here are my observations compared to my current setup:
  • launch angle was higher with the Blade​
  • power was about the same (or maybe a slight edge to the Blade) with their respective string setup, but as expected, full set of APR provided more spin. However, the Blade has more power when compared to a full set of APR on the Yonex at the same tension.​
  • the Blade offered more plow through than my current setup. I guesstimate my 11.8oz Yonex setup is around 7 points HL. I was caught many times late bringing my swing around with the Blade. More so on my forehand side. Not so much with my one handed backhand.​
  • Better control on the Yonex, but could be that I just need to get more used to the Blade's weight/balance. Shot height and depth seemed more consistent with the Yonex (isometric head perhaps). Again, probably just need to get used to the Blade more.​
  • Definitely could feel the "Clash" technology on the Blade. Pockets the ball really well.......really really well. However, whereas on the Clash I couldn't tell where I was hitting the ball on the face of the racket, the Blade offered a better feel for the ball. Most likely due to the combination of the Clash technology and higher stiffness compared to the Clash.​
  • The Blade is loud as in the sound it makes when you are hitting the ball. A dense "thwack" sound.....somewhat pro-esque sounding. The kind of sound it makes when you hit used flat balls if you know what I mean (the balls being used were from a freshly opened can albeit Penn tennis balls from Costco). Now thinking about it, did I just think I was getting more power with the Blade because of the sound the racket made? Hmmmm​
  • While I love everything about the Yonex, one shot that has been lacking for me was the backhand slice. Slice shots mostly felt unstable on the Yonex and never the low and dirty ball flight I used to be able to get with the Dunlop F2.0 Tour 18x20 before I switched to the Yonex. While the Blade wasn't as low and dirty as the Dunlop, my backhand slices felt lot better on the Blade than the Yonex. Shots felt very stable and the ball flight was more in-line with what I desired.​
I'm going to try and get the static weight between 11.7-12oz and 6-7 points HL and see if I can get a little better with the control and consistency.

Looks like there’s ample room for tungsten in the but cap.


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Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Interesting about layups needing to be different for different string patterns. Didn’t know that.
Yeah, that is interesting... I would have thought that if they were the same model, they would be the same but just with different drill patterns, and therefore a difference in weight in the head due to more or less material etc... but different layup makes it even more complicated/ interesting.

Will be interesting to hear what you think of the differences if you do try the v7 18x20...
 

dr325i

Legend
It is so plush that I don't think you need gut/poly setup. I have used gut/poly in past racquets but given how soft this racquet is, I don't think you will need it.
There are other reasons to use Gut/poly hybrid than the softness of the gut added in the mix...
I tested the Blade V7 with a full poly, no issues with the stiffness, however, the feel, the power, all was very much off with this (not my usual) setup.
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
Looks like there’s ample room for tungsten in the but cap.


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I could drop 8g of lead tape in the butt cap, so I think Tungsten is something like 2x's as dense. Plenty of weight for balance change without even getting into the foam or such. Going to pick up some myself and get of the lead.
 

AA7

Semi-Pro
Are you sure you measured right? Find it hard to believe that 7 grams changed the balance 4 points.
Damn, balance of 1.5? That’s pretty head heavy. I think mine is 4 pts.
I think i confused both of you.
The strung balance is 4pts. I moved the balance by 1.5pts by adding 7gr. All this resulting in ending balance of 5.5pts.

Anyways. Another hit this morning.. really getting used and actually appreciating the SW... i am very impressed with it so far this week.
 
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KaiserW

Hall of Fame
I think i confused both of you.
The strung balance is 4pts. I moved the balance by 1.5pts by adding 7gr. All this resulting in ending balance of 5.5pts.

Anyways. Another hit this morning.. really getting used and actually appreciating the SW... i am very impressed with it so far this week.
Thanks that makes more sense.
 

AA7

Semi-Pro
Ahhhh..ok. what difference do you notice?
Hah good question.. i wouldnt know bc i didnt even hit stock too much... i was trying to get more whip by staying south of 12oz.. so though i dont know the stock feel.. i do not want to mess with what i have bc this seems to be really good balance of SW and whip for me. I can wield it and that SW pummels the ball. I really love this stick so far.. my whole first week with this stick was wasted with 40lbs string which i thought it was 48lbs.. (courtesy of shtty string job). Currently hitting with crisp poly at 48ish... love it.
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
Just got 2 blades 18x20 V7 in. Low and behold, the unstrung specs with plastic on the grip:

First Blade:
31.8 balance 8 points HL
296,5 SW
306.1 static

Second Blade:
32.8 balance 5 points HL
301 SW
305,7 static

Opinions?
 

tennis347

Semi-Pro
I have to say in almost my 30 years of playing tennis and trying most of not all the players’ frames that Wilson has really made their mark with the new Blade 98 line. With the balance of power and control, the flex as well the comfort, the Blade is the racquet of the year IMO. There are not many players racquets made today that have the playability and comfort of the Blade!!
 

Lozannois

Rookie
Just got 2 blades 18x20 V7 in. Low and behold, the unstrung specs with plastic on the grip:

First Blade:
31.8 balance 8 points HL
296,5 SW
306.1 static

Second Blade:
32.8 balance 5 points HL
301 SW
305,7 static

Opinions?
3 pts HL difference ? Really ? This is very bad

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AA7

Semi-Pro
Just got 2 blades 18x20 V7 in. Low and behold, the unstrung specs with plastic on the grip:

First Blade:
31.8 balance 8 points HL
296,5 SW
306.1 static

Second Blade:
32.8 balance 5 points HL
301 SW
305,7 static

Opinions?
That first one is fine... 2nd one will be 2pts hl after stringing... i mean up to you. Its way too much head heavy balance for my taste... also first one is very much on spec.. i would send thr 2nd one back
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
With all the frames I have gotten from Wilson haven’t experienced the QC that seems to be common. They must be checking my frames before they send them.
 
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dr325i

Legend
The one I got is totally out of whack (spec wise).
334g strung with OG
33.5cm blance
Was trying to match it with my KB98 (335g / 32.5cm)
 

Lozannois

Rookie
Guys,

sorry for the question, but is there anybody here who could explain to me why the swingweight of the Blade 98 V7 18x20 (334) is higher than the SW of the Blade 98 CV 18x20 (328)?

For me it does not make any sense because when I compare them side by side they are identical except the extra 3 grams and the headlight which is respectively 3pts and 4pts. So if this is less head heavy, swingweight of Blade 18x20 V7 should even be lower than Blade 18x20 CV no?

I am missing something... Thank you for your help

Cheers.
 
Guys,

sorry for the question, but is there anybody here who could explain to me why the swingweight of the Blade 98 V7 18x20 (334) is higher than the SW of the Blade 98 CV 18x20 (328)?

For me it does not make any sense because when I compare them side by side they are identical except the extra 3 grams and the headlight which is respectively 3pts and 4pts. So if this is less head heavy, swingweight of Blade 18x20 V7 should even be lower than Blade 18x20 CV no?

I am missing something... Thank you for your help

Cheers.
Balance does not tell you everything. Swingweight is a measure of weight distribution, balance is not. So the v7 is more polarized (more weight in the head/handle, less weight in the throat) than the CV. Basically Wilson took weight out of the throat of the CV and added it to the head to increase the swing weight and also added it to the handle to make it more headlight. The precise location(s) and amount in the head will effect the swing weight, twist weight, and balance. The precise location(s) and amount in the handle will effect balance with minimal impact on swing weight.
 
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Lozannois

Rookie
Balance does not tell you everything. Swingweight is a measure of weight distribution, balance is not. So the v7 is more polarized (more weight in the head/handle, less weight in the throat) than the CV. Basically Wilson took weight out of the throat of the CV and added it to the head to increase the swing weight and also added it to the handle to make it more headlight. The precise location(s) and amount in the head will effect the swing weight, twist weight, and balance. The precise location(s) and amount in the handle will effect balance with minimal impact on swing weight.
Ok ok now this is more clear ! Thank you very much ! And now I understand why I prefer the 16x19 over the 18x20 for this v7 version... 334 SW is too high for me m I much prefer the sw of the 16x19 pattern and the control level is quite the same IMO

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Ok ok now this is more clear ! Thank you very much ! And now I understand why I prefer the 16x19 over the 18x20 for this v7 version... 334 SW is too high for me m I much prefer the sw of the 16x19 pattern and the control level is quite the same IMO

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That makes sense. The 16x19 has less weight in the head, it has lower swing weight and twist weight. The balance point is the same, so it is less polarized. This is all assuming the racquet is aligned with Wilson’s listed specs. In my experience (I have measured about 10 v7 frames) the specs are all over the board. So, keep in mind the 18x20 you tested may be higher than 334 sw. I have measured some that are 340+.
 

Lozannois

Rookie
That makes sense. The 16x19 has less weight in the head, it has lower swing weight and twist weight. The balance point is the same, so it is less polarized. This is all assuming the racquet is aligned with Wilson’s listed specs. In my experience (I have measured about 10 v7 frames) the specs are all over the board. So, keep in mind the 18x20 you tested may be higher than 334 sw. I have measured some that are 340+.
Omg this is very bad from Wilson...

Thank you Again very clear !

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Academykid01

New User
I got my Blades a couple days ago and all specs were close to spot on. This might just be because I'm apart of the "Wilson Select" program, so I get racket packages all from the Wilson factory.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
I think ill pay tw extra for getting a blade with the same specs as my original (luckily stock). Wilson qc is just so bad that its worth paying the extra money.

That said i had 3 2011s and had them measured on an rdc. They were 333 and 334 sw. The lighter one swung at 331. Not bad.
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
I think ill pay tw extra for getting a blade with the same specs as my original (luckily stock). Wilson qc is just so bad that its worth paying the extra money.

That said i had 3 2011s and had them measured on an rdc. They were 333 and 334 sw. The lighter one swung at 331. Not bad.
As you can see in my post above it is the only way to go. QC still all over the place. 1cm difference in balance is just too much. I prefer my Swingweight a little lower as 301 unstrung also. The problem with swingweight is, it is supereasy to increase, and very difficult to decrease..
 

Holdfast44ID

Semi-Pro
As you can see in my post above it is the only way to go. QC still all over the place. 1cm difference in balance is just too much. I prefer my Swingweight a little lower as 301 unstrung also. The problem with swingweight is, it is supereasy to increase, and very difficult to decrease..
Maybe Wilson and other companies should stop having their racquets made in CHINA? It is Chinese quality control. Make the racquets in the US!

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Jouke

Semi-Pro
Maybe Wilson and other companies should stop having their racquets made in CHINA? It is Chinese quality control. Make the racquets in the US!

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Yeah, you have a good point there.

I feel sorry for the guy that gets the blade that I rejected. I feel that it is so far of spec that it just shouldnt be sold by wilson. Some poor guy will have to try and swing that evenly balanced stick wirh a swingweight around 340..
 

tribesmen

Professional
Maybe Wilson and other companies should stop having their racquets made in CHINA? It is Chinese quality control. Make the racquets in the US!

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I disagree. It's not Made in China. The Chinese also do a good job, great one too if they are paid.

So the reason is just Wilson that QC is bad.
 

Holdfast44ID

Semi-Pro
I disagree. It's not Made in China. The Chinese also do a good job, great one too if they are paid.

So the reason is just Wilson that QC is bad.
It says "made in China" on the racquets
QC occurs at the factory where they make the products, right?

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USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
I got my Blades a couple days ago and all specs were close to spot on. This might just be because I'm apart of the "Wilson Select" program, so I get racket packages all from the Wilson factory.
That may be why mine are correct. Elite professional high performance coach but never considered that they would make sure my frames specs were accurate.
 

dr325i

Legend
Maybe Wilson and other companies should stop having their racquets made in CHINA? It is Chinese quality control. Make the racquets in the US!

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Half of this board is complaining the price of $230 is too much, now you want them to move the production to the US and charge $320 per racket?
One solution is to get off our butts and buy the racket in a store (like PGA superstore for example) where we can measure the spec.
Of course, not everyone has the access to a local tennis shop, however, I’d expect the majority on this board should.
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
In other words Wilson bean counters don’t care for us 1% players that care about matching specs and they shifted burden of qc cost to the consumer so you have to pay $20 more to TW to match it. I am sure TW is happy to oblige as are other pro shops. So industry is happy 99% of consumers don’t care and rest of us pay (either with time or money) to match the racquets...
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
Speaking of price it’s funny how few dollars here and there matter. I buy crap load of racquets for fun and I would have probably bought Yonex HD yesterday for long term demo BUT I though they were too greedy with the price and I decided to pass. If it was $220 I would have bought it but out of principle I am not going to support those kind of prices.
I suspect they will have a hard time moving any substantial quantities in USA.
I spoke with the store owner that mentioned they did not even bother ordering new 18x20 strikes because they sold almost none of the previous gen 18x20. It’s just not a popular string pattern in USA
 

mscream

Semi-Pro
The blade demo I had (18x20) had a strung SW of 337...with basically a 1.20 string. I wouldn't mind paying $250 for a racquet that's on spec, just to avoid the hassle with matching and so on. Not talking about +- 1g here but some racquets are wildly out of spec. I'm sometimes wondering if the reason why their are "Lite", "Tour" or "Pro" models is poor QC. Yonex seems to be able to make HQ racquets without charging much more than other brands. With every matched racquet someone else is the sucker who receives a dud! :-D
 

IA-SteveB

Hall of Fame
I had a second/third match with the 18x20 strung with Wilson NXT 16ga @ 57. I am still playing without a dampener since this is the first racquet I have hit with where it feels and sounds right to my picky ear without one.

I still think this is a great racquet and it was a fantastic move from the RF97A for me. I get the plow through that I am looking for at a more manageable weight. I seem to be keeping a lot more balls in on the edges and not spraying them wide because I was late with my swing. I may have just found the correct racquet for my current playstyle and level of strength, which is admittedly less than when I first started with the RF97A in Sept 2017.

I think I am going to keep playing with this string because I don't like throwing money at restrings just to play around. If I could do it myself, that would be a different story. I do know that I will lower the tension a bit next time.
 

Wilsonbro

New User
I had a second/third match with the 18x20 strung with Wilson NXT 16ga @ 57. I am still playing without a dampener since this is the first racquet I have hit with where it feels and sounds right to my picky ear without one.

I still think this is a great racquet and it was a fantastic move from the RF97A for me. I get the plow through that I am looking for at a more manageable weight. I seem to be keeping a lot more balls in on the edges and not spraying them wide because I was late with my swing. I may have just found the correct racquet for my current playstyle and level of strength, which is admittedly less than when I first started with the RF97A in Sept 2017.

I think I am going to keep playing with this string because I don't like throwing money at restrings just to play around. If I could do it myself, that would be a different story. I do know that I will lower the tension a bit next time.

Same Experience as well. Switched from the RF97 to the new Blade
 
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