2019 Wilson Blade

musicsoul

Rookie
I would buy 2 and 3. 1,25 poly and add a little lead if you need it. 1 and 4 will be overspecced
I think racquet 1 looks ok - racquet 4 seems to have a dodgy pallet / replacement grip but could work in combination with 1 if you are not too picky. I guess with the blade options are limited. Racquets 2,3 are a joke....seem to be lacking the grommets + bumper guards!
Soo lot’s of different opinions about this haha
 

musicsoul

Rookie
I prefer something between 328 - 333. I just don’t want one that immediately feels to heavy when you start playing. So I’m hesitant for the heavier ones. It will be strung with Yonex poly tour pro
 

avocadoz

Semi-Pro
Honestly, if you don’t know whether you prefer 290 sw or 305 sw, which are significantly different, you should probably pick the 290. You can always add weight. It’s more difficult to remove it, though thinner/lighter strings help.


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Yup, I always go lighter just cuz it's easier to mod. With overgrip, dampener, etc. alone are already contributing to the added weight.
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
Agreed, that’s what I’m used to seeing. 35+ seems high.


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Well, its the truth. Whether we like it or not.
1.20mm lynx green added 33.5 sw points already in 18x20. (Again; measured on Head Tuning Center, not on some 2 dollar app)
 

gutfeeling

Semi-Pro
Well, its the truth. Whether we like it or not.
1.20mm lynx green added 33.5 sw points already in 18x20. (Again; measured on Head Tuning Center, not on some 2 dollar app)
Not sure what you are implying by the truth and $2 app comments, but ok I believe you. But your measurements are on the high end of what some of us have seen.


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mscream

Semi-Pro
Soo lot’s of different opinions about this haha
Technically @Jouke has a point; an underspec racquet could be modified to increase SW. As an expert you could deal with them, however in stock form you would expect at least 330 SW strung from a blade, not 317. The whole point of the Blade for me is that they have the specs I would want (incl 330+ SW) without having to do a lot of tinkering.
 

musicsoul

Rookie
Technically @Jouke has a point; an underspec racquet could be modified to increase SW. As an expert you could deal with them, however in stock form you would expect at least 330 SW strung from a blade, not 317. The whole point of the Blade for me is that they have the specs I would want (incl 330+ SW) without having to do a lot of tinkering.
I agree. I’m coming from the Vcore pro 97 310 and demoing the Blade just felt so good because of the higher SW and more weight in the head. I have no idea what the specs where from my demo
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
Not sure what you are implying by the truth and $2 app comments, but ok I believe you. But your measurements are on the high end of what some of us have seen.


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Some people here measure swingweight themselves Via a manuel method. Machines like the Prince, Alpha, or Head Tuning center or babolat rdc cost thousands of dollars and I trust them more than some of the manuel methods. Wasnt meant to be disrespectful. Sorry.

Anyway I will keep updating the swingweight/ string list.
 

gutfeeling

Semi-Pro
Some people here measure swingweight themselves Via a manuel method. Machines like the Prince, Alpha, or Head Tuning center or babolat rdc cost thousands of dollars and I trust them more than some of the manuel methods. Wasnt meant to be disrespectful. Sorry.

Anyway I will keep updating the swingweight/ string list.
Gotcha. I have an Alpha and I love it. Please do, and please include static weight of the stringbed (unstrung vs strung weight).


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parasailing

Hall of Fame
I strung my Blade with Hyper G 16L which is same diameter string as Hawk Touch. The string added 38 SW so that is what one should expect from a poly. Gonna see how it compares to Hawk Touch 17g. The one good thing is the color matches the lime green Blade v7 color scheme.
 

gutfeeling

Semi-Pro
I strung my Blade with Hyper G 16L which is same diameter string as Hawk Touch. The string added 38 SW so that is what one should expect from a poly. Gonna see how it compares to Hawk Touch 17g. The one good thing is the color matches the lime green Blade v7 color scheme.
Wow. What was the static weight increase from the string? That is a pretty big jump from post #2006 which was the 17 (1.20) gauge.


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parasailing

Hall of Fame
Wow. What was the static weight increase from the string? That is a pretty big jump from post #2006 which was the 17 (1.20) gauge.


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A while back someone mention Hawk Touch as possibly just very heavy but after stringing Hyper G, I got the same specs. My Blade v7 is 293 SW unstrung so when I put Hyper G 16L, it added about 38 SW plus 2 SW for a dampener which is consistent with what I got with Hawk Touch 17g.

I also have a set of Hawk Touch 18g which is equivalent to Hyper G 17. I don't like using 1.20mm strings since they lose tension much faster and break faster. I get about 8 to 10 hours on my Blade v7 at the moment before it breaks or goes dead. I wish these manufacturers would just use metric in the title instead of coming up with 16, 16L, 17, 18 and not following a standard.
 

gutfeeling

Semi-Pro
A while back someone mention Hawk Touch as possibly just very heavy but after stringing Hyper G, I got the same specs. My Blade v7 is 293 SW unstrung so when I put Hyper G 16L, it added about 38 SW plus 2 SW for a dampener which is consistent with what I got with Hawk Touch 17g.

I also have a set of Hawk Touch 18g which is equivalent to Hyper G 17. I don't like using 1.20mm strings since they lose tension much faster and break faster. I get about 8 to 10 hours on my Blade v7 at the moment before it breaks or goes dead. I wish these manufacturers would just use metric in the title instead of coming up with 16, 16L, 17, 18 and not following a standard.
Those are some heavy strings. By comparison, in the 18x20, a full bed of revolve 1.25 adds 18 grams and 31-32 sw points for me.


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skeeter

Professional
I agree. I’m coming from the Vcore pro 97 310 and demoing the Blade just felt so good because of the higher SW and more weight in the head. I have no idea what the specs where from my demo
Curious on your thoughts comparing the your VCP 97 310 with the blade as I, too, play with the 310 and have a demo blade on the way.
 

TennisManiac

Professional
Curious on your thoughts comparing the your VCP 97 310 with the blade as I, too, play with the 310 and have a demo blade on the way.
I had a VCP 97 310 here last week to demo along side the V7 Blade 98 16x19. Both rackets felt nearly identical in terms of comfort and control. However, the V7 Blade provided much more pop and stability. As far as spin, I think the V7 Blade offered just a tad more. To me... the Blade wins.
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
I have these options from the Blade 18x20 to choose from. This is with the plastic on the handle

1. 305.7 gram, 32.5 balans en 304.5 SW
2. 307.0 gram, 31.8 balans en 289.0 SW
3. 307.8 gram, 31.6 balans en 287.5 SW
4. 309.2 gram, 32.2 balans en 304.5 SW

What do you think? I’m looking for one that will be around 330 SW strung. I’m thinking 1 or 2
Out of those 2 and 3: reason is they are basically the same you can always add weight but you cannot remove it
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
I had a chance to play 3 sets of singles with Hyper-G 16L on Blade v7 strung at 46lbs mains and 42lbs crosses. The string does have more bite and less power than Hawk Touch. Hyper-G felt better than Head Hawk when it comes to serves but definitely ground strokes required more effort than Hawk Touch.

Gonna hit with it some more to see if tension will drop and provide a boost in power.
 

DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
I had a chance to play 3 sets of singles with Hyper-G 16L on Blade v7 strung at 46lbs mains and 42lbs crosses. The string does have more bite and less power than Hawk Touch. Hyper-G felt better than Head Hawk when it comes to serves but definitely ground strokes required more effort than Hawk Touch.

Gonna hit with it some more to see if tension will drop and provide a boost in power.
Hyper G is way too underpowered. Decent plush feel , easy access to spin but nothing more to offer.
 

musicsoul

Rookie
Out of those 2 and 3: reason is they are basically the same you can always add weight but you cannot remove it
That was my first idea. I’m not really someone who changes rackets specs. I could ask a shop of course. I’m very split now between the ligher and the heavier ones. I don’t want to end up with one thats 340 SW. But that is possible if what some are saying is true about 37 SW added by the strings. I really appreciate all the help and responses! :)
 

gutfeeling

Semi-Pro
I had a chance to play 3 sets of singles with Hyper-G 16L on Blade v7 strung at 46lbs mains and 42lbs crosses. The string does have more bite and less power than Hawk Touch. Hyper-G felt better than Head Hawk when it comes to serves but definitely ground strokes required more effort than Hawk Touch.

Gonna hit with it some more to see if tension will drop and provide a boost in power.
In the 18x20 you’re going to have a better experience with hyper g 1.20 or 1.15. Tour bite is less stiff and will give you a little more power as well. It also seems like the 1.25 gauge is adding a lot of weight to the head based off of your sw measurement of 37.


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AA7

Semi-Pro
In the 18x20 you’re going to have a better experience with hyper g 1.20 or 1.15. Tour bite is less stiff and will give you a little more power as well. It also seems like the 1.25 gauge is adding a lot of weight to the head based off of your sw measurement of 37.


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@parasailing
I hit with HyperG this morning at 17g (1.20mm). It was just a hard hitting session with a coach. Ball gets a lot of action with this string. Very good bite and spin. Yes, I think power is on the low-end but control and spin is very good so to me it had the effect of given me more confidence to swing away and go for depth and more angles etc... net net that could translate into more winners for me.. All in all i think it's a solid fit. i will be testing few more strings but mine was definitely a positive impression and strong contender.
 

Lozannois

Rookie
@parasailing
I hit with HyperG this morning at 17g (1.20mm). It was just a hard hitting session with a coach. Ball gets a lot of action with this string. Very good bite and spin. Yes, I think power is on the low-end but control and spin is very good so to me it had the effect of given me more confidence to swing away and go for depth and more angles etc... net net that could translate into more winners for me.. All in all i think it's a solid fit. i will be testing few more strings but mine was definitely a positive impression and strong contender.
Hi,

If you even want a little bit more control and touch you can Hybrid it with kirschbaum max power or rs lyon as cross. Very good combination :)

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jbdbackfan

Rookie
Ordered my blade 18x20 yesterday. Based on all the reviews here and the long demo wait time decided to pull trigger.

Went with ice code 17 gauge on mains at 52 and HDX on cross at 52.

Paid the $20 to have specs match online and sw per my email came at 334 and 4pt HL.

Played with the BLX blade for years so excited to be back (hopefully) in the family.
 

avocadoz

Semi-Pro
I experimented with string tension and I gotta say, you have to string the Blade 18x20 in the low 50s (no higher than 53 lbs) to get the benefit of the FeelFlex. Anything higher and the racquet doesn't seem to flex anymore and becomes boardlike.
 

gutfeeling

Semi-Pro
I experimented with string tension and I gotta say, you have to string the Blade 18x20 in the low 50s (no higher than 53 lbs) to get the benefit of the FeelFlex. Anything higher and the racquet doesn't seem to flex anymore and becomes boardlike.
I agree, generally. What you are feeling is the flex of the head, so with tighter/stiffer strings you are offsetting that. If you want a very tight/stiff stringbed and also want to maintain a certain level of comfort, then you may want to add weight to the handle. There is a separate thread about the Tsitsipas setup - high tension 4G and 10 grams added to the butt of a 2013 18x20 blade supposedly.


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AA7

Semi-Pro
Hi,

If you even want a little bit more control and touch you can Hybrid it with kirschbaum max power or rs lyon as cross. Very good combination :)

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thanks. I don't think control and/or feel is lacking.. ton of control and spin with hyperG. May want to boost the power a tad bit... these are all solid strings so far... I have alpha to try next at a proper tension... i also requested a mayami sample set (5 strings!), which is getting massive praises.. will update here as I get through more strings. One thing for sure, I do not dislike any current options just browsing to see if i can fnd something better... had to go down the string rabbit hole now that I completed my racquet search :)
 

dgoran

Hall of Fame
I experimented with string tension and I gotta say, you have to string the Blade 18x20 in the low 50s (no higher than 53 lbs) to get the benefit of the FeelFlex. Anything higher and the racquet doesn't seem to flex anymore and becomes boardlike.
I think that depends on individual for me anything under 55 feels like a rocket launcher perhaps swing speed and path is different. I noticed I have to slow down my swing under 55 lb with this blade or brush up western more
 

gutfeeling

Semi-Pro
I think that depends on individual for me anything under 55 feels like a rocket launcher perhaps swing speed and path is different. I noticed I have to slow down my swing under 55 lb with this blade or brush up western more
There are also a lot of variables at play such as stringing machine (constant pull vs lock out) and stringing technique. You can make a stringbed feel firmer at the same reference tension simply by pulling the crosses slower on a lockout, or by pushing up on each cross while tensioning it on a constant pull. That’s why I cringe whenever people make absolute tension statements or recommendations without considering all variables.


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Fxanimator1

Hall of Fame
There are also a lot of variables at play such as stringing machine (constant pull vs lock out) and stringing technique. You can make a stringbed feel firmer at the same reference tension simply by pulling the crosses slower on a lockout, or by pushing up on each cross while tensioning it on a constant pull. That’s why I cringe whenever people make absolute tension statements or recommendations without considering all variables.


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"Preach!"
There are no absolutes. You nailed it.
 

avocadoz

Semi-Pro
How would you compare the Blade 18/20 to the RFA97 in the usual power, feel, control, comfort, etc, categories? Thanks! This thread has me feeling all holic again.
Having played extensively with the RF97A and now Blade v.7, I can give you some ideas...

Groundstrokes: Blade - pin point accuracy and better directional control
Volleys: RF97A - the weight makes the racquet super stable at net
Serves: RF97A - if your shoulders allow and can swing this thing and get it around quick enough, not many racquet can beat this beast in this category
Returns: RF97A - very close but slight edge to RF97A here since it's better at blocking back hard serves
Power: RF97A
Control: Blade
Maneuverability: RF97A - despite being heavier, it's more HL so I find it quicker during fast exchange, but the Blade isn't bad at all in this department
Stability: RF97A - again very close here as both are quite stable
Comfort: Blade - by a million miles. RF97A is one of the most uncomfortable and stiff racquets I've every played with. It's up there with the likes of the Babolat elbow killers
Touch/Feel: RF97A
Topspin: RF97A
Slice: RF97A

For me, the RF97A does win out in quite a few categories, but being in pain after playing with it everytime is more than enough reason for me to make the switch to the Blade.
 

ChaelAZ

Legend
I experimented with string tension and I gotta say, you have to string the Blade 18x20 in the low 50s (no higher than 53 lbs) to get the benefit of the FeelFlex. Anything higher and the racquet doesn't seem to flex anymore and becomes boardlike.

This si something I will also be testing. The pre-release demo's I had were strung at the mid point so 54+, and when I got the 18x20 demo I had them string down to 52. I also stung my two at 52 when I bought and I like the current feel, but think I might drop 2 lbs to 50 and give it some time to see how it hits.
 

matchpoint9

Rookie
Having played extensively with the RF97A and now Blade v.7, I can give you some ideas...

Groundstrokes: Blade - pin point accuracy and better directional control
Volleys: RF97A - the weight makes the racquet super stable at net
Serves: RF97A - if your shoulders allow and can swing this thing and get it around quick enough, not many racquet can beat this beast in this category
Returns: RF97A - very close but slight edge to RF97A here since it's better at blocking back hard serves
Power: RF97A
Control: Blade
Maneuverability: RF97A - despite being heavier, it's more HL so I find it quicker during fast exchange, but the Blade isn't bad at all in this department
Stability: RF97A - again very close here as both are quite stable
Comfort: Blade - by a million miles. RF97A is one of the most uncomfortable and stiff racquets I've every played with. It's up there with the likes of the Babolat elbow killers
Touch/Feel: RF97A
Topspin: RF97A
Slice: RF97A

For me, the RF97A does win out in quite a few categories, but being in pain after playing with it everytime is more than enough reason for me to make the switch to the Blade.
Nice comparison. I'd think that touch / feel is LARGELY a function of your string setup as well? I know that from recently doing a poly / multi hybrid vs. full poly. For touch shots, I can 'feel' the ball better with the hybrid setup.

I agree entirely on serve, the RF is awesome if you're fit enough and strong enough to use it. It was an a-ha moment for me using that racquet in that going forward I want a racquet that's just as easy to swing in the 3rd set as it is in the 1st. The joy of getting older....
 

Nojoke

Rookie
Nice comparison. I'd think that touch / feel is LARGELY a function of your string setup as well? I know that from recently doing a poly / multi hybrid vs. full poly. For touch shots, I can 'feel' the ball better with the hybrid setup.

I agree entirely on serve, the RF is awesome if you're fit enough and strong enough to use it. It was an a-ha moment for me using that racquet in that going forward I want a racquet that's just as easy to swing in the 3rd set as it is in the 1st. The joy of getting older....
Agreed. It is a very well done comparison. Thanks @avocadoz! You hit on my issue as I just turned 47. I'm strong enough to wield the RF97, but that doesn't necessarily mean it remains my best, most intelligent option. I know the weight of the RF97 is what gives it it's power, but does the blade have an easier user-friendly power due to its combination of swingweight and less overall static weight? Would like something that pancakes the ball like the RF in a more efficient package.
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
ive been hitting all week and my max power is still clinging to life. Tension is at 39#s now on one yet i can still control the ball fairly easily. Just crazy. The more time i spend with the racquet the easier every shot is to execute. not really having any issues with it.
 

gutfeeling

Semi-Pro
ive been hitting all week and my max power is still clinging to life. Tension is at 39#s now on one yet i can still control the ball fairly easily. Just crazy. The more time i spend with the racquet the easier every shot is to execute. not really having any issues with it.
Max power is an underrated string. The 1.20 regular is sublime. I will go back to that unless 4G 1.25 blows my mind.


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colan5934

Semi-Pro
Has anyone tried adding leather grip to the new Blade to add weight and make it more HL? How did it play?
Tried it on both. No other mods yet. Brings the weight up 11g for me and moves the balance further south, closer to my preferred specs. I still want more mass, but not much. These blades are stable, and the leather added a bit of crispness that I thought was missing with the stock grip. A Babolat skin feel would accomplish the same thing without the extra weight, I believe. 18x20 is a blast. 16x19 got a little wild when I just wanted to make the ball, but on the offense, I had more juice, almost pure drive-esque. I would pick the 18x20 for consistency’s sake and because I don’t have trouble generating my own power.
 

Lozannois

Rookie
Max power is an underrated string. The 1.20 regular is sublime. I will go back to that unless 4G 1.25 blows my mind.


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Agreed at 100%! Max power has everything and if you want more spin you can cross it with a shaped string...

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Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
ahh - I use max power rough.I have actually never used max power before. And I use 1.25 gauge. I know it adds 33 SW points.

The spin with Max power rough is the best I have gotten. My runner up is Typhoon, but the max power rough lasts longer and is easier to string. Stringing Typhoon kind of sucks..lol.
 

gutfeeling

Semi-Pro
Need to clarify what string you talk about here: IMO Max Power is very different from Max Power Rough...
Agreed. The regular version is very stiff. It is factory prestretched. The 1.20 is 17-18 grams in the 18x20 which adds 31-32 sw points. It plays like a 1.25 string imo.


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FedGR

Semi-Pro
ahh - I use max power rough.I have actually never used max power before. And I use 1.25 gauge. I know it adds 33 SW points.

The spin with Max power rough is the best I have gotten. My runner up is Typhoon, but the max power rough lasts longer and is easier to string. Stringing Typhoon kind of sucks..lol.
Better spin than ALU Power/ AP rough?
 
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