2019 Wilson Blade

dave t

Rookie
The swingweight of the 18x20 is 6pts higher than the 16x19's, and the twistweight is about 0.8 higher. It doesn't take much weight to change those numbers substantially. A few grams of lead at 3 and 9 would be more than enough to transform the 16x19 numbers into the 18x20 if someone were so inclined.
Just going back to the twistweight posts. How much variation between frames can be expected? Is the TWU twistweight # an average of several racquets or just a sample? I do think its a relevant parameter for racquets but we don't get much background. It is interesting that the earlier 16x19 versions of the blade have higher twistweight than their 18x20 counterparts. For v7, this appears to be flipped. Still wondering if this is an intentional change or just the result of typical Wilson variability?

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gutfeeling

Semi-Pro
Just going back to the twistweight posts. How much variation between frames can be expected? Is the TWU twistweight # an average of several racquets or just a sample? I do think its a relevant parameter for racquets but we don't get much background. It is interesting that the earlier 16x19 versions of the blade have higher twistweight than their 18x20 counterparts. For v7, this appears to be flipped. Still wondering if this is an intentional change or just the result of typical Wilson variability?

@TW Professor
I think this is an intentional change. Previously, 16x19 models also had stiffer layups than the 18x20 models. I believe the v7 16x19 is the same layup as the 18x20, with slightly different weight distribution as explained by the SW and TW differences.
 

parasailing

Hall of Fame
I had a 2015 Blade 98 18x20 with a SW of 280 which was insanely low compared to my other 5 Blades which were around SW of 290-305 unstrung. Goes to show you how poor Wilson quality control is.
 

Lozannois

Rookie
Has anybody tried msv focus hex on the blade ? Any thoughts about it ? Thanks

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Znak

Professional
The more I hit with the racquet the more I'm loving it. Man, didn't think I'd like it this much (esp being such a yonex fanboy). It's really making tennis fun. Sorry dumb pointless comment, but I just wanted to share haha...
 

skeeter

Professional
The more I hit with the racquet the more I'm loving it. Man, didn't think I'd like it this much (esp being such a yonex fanboy). It's really making tennis fun. Sorry dumb pointless comment, but I just wanted to share haha...
Which string pattern?
 

WillGinRVA

New User
Played this past weekend with my 18x20 v7 and HyperG 17 at 57lbs, and loved it and played well with it, but it might have had a little too much SW for me at 307 unstrung. There were a couple running hits where I had trouble getting the racquet around on the ball. The flatter trajectory worked well for my eastern forehand overall and I was able to really rocket some balls in from the service line.

I have since received one with 300 unstrung, and it feels a decent amount more maneuverable, but we’ll see how it plays.

I’m narrowing in on finally selecting the racquet for me though and it feels good.
 

Injured Again

Professional
Played this past weekend with my 18x20 v7 and HyperG 17 at 57lbs, and loved it and played well with it, but it might have had a little too much SW for me at 307 unstrung. There were a couple running hits where I had trouble getting the racquet around on the ball. The flatter trajectory worked well for my eastern forehand overall and I was able to really rocket some balls in from the service line.

I have since received one with 300 unstrung, and it feels a decent amount more maneuverable, but we’ll see how it plays.

I’m narrowing in on finally selecting the racquet for me though and it feels good.
That is a **lot** of tension. When I had a v7 18X20 extended demo, using a string very similar to Hyper-G, 46 pounds was on the high end of the preferred zone for the majority of us that played with it. The lower tensions will help give you a bit more ball speed and be a bit easier on your arm.
 

Holdfast44ID

Semi-Pro
All you guys talking about the v7 18X20 when I have not tried it but am dialed in with the 16x19 already and have three of them... I hit pretty flat and hard on both sides with a low launch angle. I hit low, fast BH slices as well. Technically, the 18x20 might better suit my game. How is it for serving by comparison?

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FedGR

Semi-Pro
All you guys talking about the v7 18X20 when I have not tried it but am dialed in with the 16x19 already and have three of them... I hit pretty flat and hard on both sides with a low launch angle. I hit low, fast BH slices as well. Technically, the 18x20 might better suit my game. How is it for serving by comparison?

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A friend of mine that is a super strong guy and hits a flat ball demo'ed both and ended up buying the 16x19. He said he could hit equally hard with less effort with the 16x19.

Regarding serving, I found the 18x20 a bit cumbersome and had trouble creating enough RHS.
 

Holdfast44ID

Semi-Pro
A friend of mine that is a super strong guy and hits a flat ball demo'ed both and ended up buying the 16x19. He said he could hit equally hard with less effort with the 16x19.

Regarding serving, I found the 18x20 a bit cumbersome and had trouble creating enough RHS.
Thanks! I feel better now.

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FedGR

Semi-Pro
Thanks! I feel better now.

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Honestly, if you like the 16x19 you should demo the 18x20. The 18x20 is an excellent racket as well and makes on contact one of the best sounds I've ever heard from any racket! It entices you to hit the **** out of the ball! :D
 

Holdfast44ID

Semi-Pro
Honestly, if you like the 16x19 you should demo the 18x20. The 18x20 is an excellent racket as well and makes on contact one of the best sounds I've ever heard from any racket! It entices you to hit the **** out of the ball! :D
It is tempting. I just have 3 matched 16x19's though.

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axis7777

New User
All you guys talking about the v7 18X20 when I have not tried it but am dialed in with the 16x19 already and have three of them... I hit pretty flat and hard on both sides with a low launch angle. I hit low, fast BH slices as well. Technically, the 18x20 might better suit my game. How is it for serving by comparison?

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Had the same feeling here, i just love the 16x19 , didnt try 18x20 yet.
I still play with 98 dr tho since I just got new one cheap.
But i cant forget the feeling with blade its really special and I will get it sooner or later.
Was just wondering about power difference with 18x 20 version tho.
 

n8dawg6

Legend
Had the same feeling here, i just love the 16x19 , didnt try 18x20 yet.
I still play with 98 dr tho since I just got new one cheap.
But i cant forget the feeling with blade its really special and I will get it sooner or later.
Was just wondering about power difference with 18x 20 version tho.
power is similar to me across all blades ... 98L, 98S, 16x19, 18x20. as it should be, theyre all the same mold. main difference between 18x20 and 16x19 is that the 16x19 has a little less swingweight and a little higher launch angle.

the varying reviews of an 18x20 being cumbersome, or a 16x19 feeling insubstantial or fluttery, prolly has as much to do w the level youre playing at as anything. and subjective personal preference, of course.
 

Holdfast44ID

Semi-Pro
power is similar to me across all blades ... 98L, 98S, 16x19, 18x20. as it should be, theyre all the same mold. main difference between 18x20 and 16x19 is that the 16x19 has a little less swingweight and a little higher launch angle.

the varying reviews of an 18x20 being cumbersome, or a 16x19 feeling insubstantial or fluttery, prolly has as much to do w the level youre playing at as anything. and subjective personal preference, of course.
Thanks. I put just a little lead tape at 3 & 9 on the 16x19 (and 5g behind the buttcap). It feels more stable.

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FedGR

Semi-Pro
So my 18x20 ended up being defective and the store I got it from lets me get a new racket, any racket. Suggestions? PS98-100? Stiffness is a concern. New VCPs don't seem that appealing as I already have both old 310 and 330. Maybe TF40?

I know this is a Blade thread but what did you play with that you enjoyed? Needs to be similar-ish to Blade.
 
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WillGinRVA

New User
So my 18x20 ended up being defective and the store I got it from let's me get a new racket, any racket. Suggestions? PS98-100? Stiffness is a concern. New VCPs don't seem that appealing as I already have both old 310 and 330. Maybe TF40?

I know this is a Blade thread but what did you play with that you enjoyed? Needs to be similar-ish to Blade.
Why not get another Blade? Also what was wrong with your other one?
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
So my 18x20 ended up being defective and the store I got it from let's me get a new racket, any racket. Suggestions? PS98-100? Stiffness is a concern. New VCPs don't seem that appealing as I already have both old 310 and 330. Maybe TF40?

I know this is a Blade thread but what did you play with that you enjoyed? Needs to be similar-ish to Blade.
How was it defective?
 

axis7777

New User
So my 18x20 ended up being defective and the store I got it from lets me get a new racket, any racket. Suggestions? PS98-100? Stiffness is a concern. New VCPs don't seem that appealing as I already have both old 310 and 330. Maybe TF40?

I know this is a Blade thread but what did you play with that you enjoyed? Needs to be similar-ish to Blade.
I tried head gravity tour today and was quite happy with it, not to say more since it was brief , its something to try for sure. Next lvl stuff for sure.Its faster then my dr 98 , maybe even more comfortable better feel as well, sweet spot is huge but slightly different spot.
 

FedGR

Semi-Pro
Allow me to suggest the Clash 98.
That's what I am thinking as well actually. Either this or the TF40.

I tried head gravity tour today and was quite happy with it, not to say more since it was brief , its something to try for sure. Next lvl stuff for sure.Its faster then my dr 98 , maybe even more comfortable better feel as well, sweet spot is huge but slightly different spot.
I actually demo'd the Tour a couple days ago and really enjoyed hitting with it. Very comfortable, great feel and control. The problem is that I have a fast swing style and my game benefits from a lighter more maneuverable stick. I don't think I could swing the Tour effectively 3-4 per week.
 

BobbyDe

New User
Just ordered an 18x20 v7. Play with 2015 blade 18x20 which suits my game perfectly. I can hit out, drop shot, slice, play aggressively and it’s got enough mass to deal with pace and play on the defensive. I only play doubles but play competitively.

Strings broke last night in a match and had to rely on a not great backup, so decided to pull the trigger on the v7. Hear lots of great things so hoping it lives up to it
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
That's what I am thinking as well actually. Either this or the TF40.
Good stick but trajectory was really low for me with the TF40. Out of my favorite sticks, trajectory from highest to lowest:

Clash 98
Pure Storm Team GT
VCP 97 310
2015 Blade 18/20
Ultra Tour
MGPMP/IGYT Prestige MP

the TF40 while very solid feeling had a lower trajectory than all of the above for me. YMMV
 
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FedGR

Semi-Pro
Good stick but trajectory was really low for me with the TF40. Out of my favorite sticks, trajectory from highest to lowest:

Clash 98
Pure Storm Team G
VCP 97 310
2015 Blade 18/20
Ultra Tour
MGPMP/IGYT Prestige MP

the TF40 while very solid feeling had a lower trajectory than all of the above for me. YMMV
Clash 98: No1 target for now
Pure Storm Team G : Is this the 2011 model?
VCP 97 310: I have it
2015 Blade 18/20: I have it
Ultra Tour : Not enough Juice
MGPMP/IGYT Prestige MP : Was never able to play with prestige line, only Radicals for me (and Speeds)

What strings did you use? Did you use any thin ones to increase launch angle?
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
Clash 98: No1 target for now
Pure Storm Team G : Is this the 2011 model?
VCP 97 310: I have it
2015 Blade 18/20: I have it
Ultra Tour : Not enough Juice
MGPMP/IGYT Prestige MP : Was never able to play with prestige line, only Radicals for me (and Speeds)

What strings did you use? Did you use any thin ones to increase launch angle?
My post was simply to provide you with some comparative data points on launch angle and net clearance. That’s all.
 

FedGR

Semi-Pro
My post was simply to provide you with some comparative data points on launch angle and net clearance. That’s all.
And it is appreciated! What is the Babolat you are referring to? Is it the 2011 model? I wasn't able to find a recent Pure Storm Team G.
 

ttnyc456

New User
Used to playing with stretch rackets previously so typically hit the ball on the top end of the string bed with standard length rackets... I found the v7 blade to be a bit dead/jarring near the top end of the hoop. Otherwise the racket had nice plushness and spin. I know im in the minority, but the blade CV felt better / more solid overall to hit groundstrokes with than the v7, and more consistent on the top end of the hoop. The v7 was better on soft/warm-up hitting and drop shots.
 

snoflewis

Hall of Fame
I know im in the minority, but the blade CV felt better / more solid overall to hit groundstrokes with than the v7, and more consistent on the top end of the hoop. The v7 was better on soft/warm-up hitting and drop shots.
if you liked the CV, you should really try the 2015. I thought the CV was fine and that people on the boards were exaggerating how bad it was. Then i tried the 2015 right after and realized why. a lot of the reactions are relative, but the CV is not a bad playing racket. It plays pretty well actually, but the 2015 is really something else. I'm pretty confident that if the v7 came right after the 2015 and the 2015s were still available, the v7 wouldnt get as much love.
 

BobbyDe

New User
2015 Blade 18x20 user myself. Just picked up second hand backup, and placed an order on on v7 18x20. Have heard good things about v7, plusher and more plow
 

Evobacsi

New User
First post on the forum. Followed this post for a while and decided to grab a v7 18x20. 46lb alu power, 1/2 grip size heat shrink sleeve and wilson pro og, weigh 332g. Cant really feel the bevels so I'm gonna grab me a babolat skin feel.

Have used ps97s gut poly 335g for the past year and a half. First impression is that the blade swings tiny bit easier, wont play this week so cant tell you guys more atm
so I had 4 hrs with the stick. I also changed my eastern forehand to a semi western forehand.

i have read on this forum that this racket it suppose to have a beautiful sound but to me it sound like ‘pock’ instead of the beautiful ‘ping’ on my ps97s. Is it because of the poly? I’m thinking of going hybrid to a poly main multi cross, max power or 4g and Babolat origin/tec x1/nxt control. I found that it gave me some elbow problems (tendon not tennis elbow according to my coach) but I’m not sure if it’s the racket, might be because I haven’t played for a couple of weeks and I play another sport involving my arms.

performance wise, I quite like the stability, good touch at net, good power and control on my groundstrokes, the launch angle is lower than I’m use to but I’m sure il adapt. I feel it’s more powerful on serve compared to my ps97s but I struggle to get it over the net sometimes (always had this problem when I play with a full bed poly, don’t know why).

i also borrowed my friend‘s cv blade 18 20 strung with head intelitour and surprisingly liked It. It felt quite comfortable, higher launch angle, good connected feel, lighter swingweight, can swing full power without being scared of missing. I might buy one to test which one I prefer.

any advice would be appreciated.
 

tribesmen

Professional
Listen to yourself! If you like cv blade play with it, it is a very good racquet. New blade is like Pure Strike PO7, not a bad stick, but hype is huge, so not a bad racket at all, but nothing special.
 

Evobacsi

New User
Listen to yourself! If you like cv blade play with it, it is a very good racquet. New blade is like Pure Strike PO7, not a bad stick, but hype is huge, so not a bad racket at all, but nothing special.
thank you for the response. don’t own the cv blade, might get one in the future. Il play around with the v7 in the mean time. I owned the pure strike 16 19 and I agree with you, nothing special and I sold it
 

Power Player

Talk Tennis Guru
FYI you are responding to a troll who has never used the frame.

I think the new Blade is a lot better than the pure strike. Main reason is my arm never is sore and it has a big sw with nice feel.

But id suggest staying with poly. Its great at low tensions at 48 or less. The polys that work the best seem to be alu power or variants like max power.

Of course you may not like the frame and thats cool. But id give it a little time since it has a lot different sw and balance than a pS97. Your timing may be off as a result of adjustment.
 

n8dawg6

Legend
FYI you are responding to a troll who has never used the frame.

I think the new Blade is a lot better than the pure strike. Main reason is my arm never is sore and it has a big sw with nice feel.

But id suggest staying with poly. Its great at low tensions at 48 or less. The polys that work the best seem to be alu power or variants like max power.

Of course you may not like the frame and thats cool. But id give it a little time since it has a lot different sw and balance than a pS97. Your timing may be off as a result of adjustment.
haha, what?? you mean to tell me that sweeping generalizations about “not a bad racquet at all, but nothing special” based entirely on internet reading without any firsthand use is somehow ... a worthless post??
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
The countervail is a poor, harsh, no feel iteration of the blade that should be avoided. Very prevalent on the resale markets but that's because its lousy.
 

1HBHfanatic

Hall of Fame
@2nd Serve Ace
I gave a long time blade user the 2 latest models to tell me what he though, who better than someone that uses that model racquet exclusively
I handed him the v6 and the v7 models of the same racquet w.blade.98 18/20,,
i personally liked the v7 myself when I tried it; he shocked me a few days latter by saying he preferred the v6!, and he did add "he lost feel", with the v7 ??!!??!!
the v6 has its followers as well!!
 

Evobacsi

New User
Thanks guys. I have a set of max power and rough 1.20, Will try those out and also give poly multi a chance. Tbh I didnt find my friends CV to be too muted, I could feel where the ball was gonna land when it leaves the stringbed. V7 not too bad either
 

Lozannois

Rookie
Hi anyone,

My blade v7 16x19 (Perfect conditions like new) is for sale if anyone interested pm me

Thanks

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