2019 Wimbledon - Women's Singles - General Discussion

Who will win Wimbledon?


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This made me laugh, because it's such a spot-on description of something you see if you watch a lot of tennis. I'm not predicting that it defintely will happen to Strycova, but I've certainly seen it before. The underdog might be fully engaged and serious about winning early on, but as soon as they fall behind, it becomes what you describe.
Much like Serena's "amazing comebacks" against very low-ranked players in one of the first two rounds.
As soon as there's one of those, you know she's already in the final.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Talk Tennis Guru
She is not an "agressive" baseliner. She is a purely defensive and counterpunching baseliner with a bit of offense at times. Nadal isnt called an agressive baseliner and he is way more agressive than she is.

As for her grass skills even a prime Kerber slaps her around easily on grass as their matches show, even though she owns Kerber on all other courts. Even a prime Bouchard had an easy time with Halep on grass.
I think you're living in the past. I am sticking with my assessment of Simona as an aggressive baseliner when she's playing her best tennis. At times she's more of a defensive counterpuncher. But there are other times, she's much more than that.

If you doubt my words, take another look at her last three matches at Wimbledon. While she doesn't play a high-risk game, like many of her opponents, she still qualifies as an aggressive baseliner in these matches. Slow start against Zhang but then she found that other gear from the middle of the 1st set onward.

Funny guy with that assessment of Halep vs Bouchard at Wimbledon. Simona fared better in the SF round against Genie than Kerber (a Wimbledon champion) did in the previous round. And prior to that, Genie took out Alize Cornet who had just eliminated the number one seed, Serena Williams, in the third round. Bouchard had an incredible run to reach that final at Wimbledon that year. And you chose to diminish Halep's grass game for a SF match she lost FIVE years ago against a player who was playing the best tennis of her career during that period? I am amused.
 
At this point I just want Serena to win a sufficient amount of Slams that would make her content and ready to retire.
Same with the "big 3", really.
I'm getting a bit tired of these Slam hoarders obfuscating everything, as if there's nothing else in the game.
 

Bhagi Katbamna

Hall of Fame
It's the responsibility of the younger generation to step up and beat them enough times in important matches where they get tired of the grind of professional tennis. If they keep winning, they won't retire because they've won enough.
 

ACE of Hearts

Talk Tennis Guru
At this point I just want Serena to win a sufficient amount of Slams that would make her content and ready to retire.
Same with the "big 3", really.
I'm getting a bit tired of these Slam hoarders obfuscating everything, as if there's nothing else in the game.
Serena will retire when she feels she can’t compete anymore. She has earned her right to go out whenever she wants. I hope she gets a farewell tour as well.
 

FakeEmpire

Professional
Has any player won when his or her serve isn't on?
Radwanska. Sometimes, I wonder how she could build a pretty respectable career with that cream puff 2nd serve (and I'm a huge fan of hers, but I suffered too much with it).
More recently, Ostapenko. She actually won a major with an incredibly unreliable serve.
One could say they both won important tournaments in spite of their serve.
 

Lebsta

Rookie
At this point I just want Serena to win a sufficient amount of Slams that would make her content and ready to retire.
Same with the "big 3", really.
I'm getting a bit tired of these Slam hoarders obfuscating everything, as if there's nothing else in the game.
The slam hoarders as u put it wouldn’t win everything if the others were good enough to beat him
 

WDC

Rookie
I have no idea what you're referring to. Please enlighten
No been down that one before. All I can say is whatever Williams does counts for nothing, when sporting integrity is compromised then the sport itself loses credibility. This is the main reason women's Tennis has fallen so far.
 

ALEXT

Semi-Pro
I would give Serena the first chance to win the SF and even the title but in the same time no one should forget the 2015 USO SF when she was at peak and on the verge of one of the most prestigious, unique, career defining, achievements - CYGS and then the unthinkable happened.
 
I would give Serena the first chance to win the SF and even the title but in the same time no one should forget the 2015 USO SF when she was at peak and on the verge of one of the most prestigious, unique, career defining, achievements - CYGS and then the unthinkable happened.
Still missing that, for me, to be the greatest.
CYGS > one more Slam.
I already consider her to be greater than Court and she hasn't overtaken her yet.
Number of Slams isn't everything.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Talk Tennis Guru
No been down that one before. All I can say is whatever Williams does counts for nothing, when sporting integrity is compromised then the sport itself loses credibility. This is the main reason women's Tennis has fallen so far.
I'm not buying the premise that women's tennis has fallen. More depth. I find it more interesting in the past few years than it's ever been before. More interesting than the ATP at this point
 

roysid

Hall of Fame
Serena said such an obvious trap for riske with those drop shots. And she was fooled twice at 3-4 to give the break.
And DF at breakpoint. God
 

skyline

Legend
She was ripe for a choke. It happened at RG. And it happened during the clay season too where she started to turn things around from her nadir. She hasn't broken the pattern that causes these chokes. She always gets too keen to win, starts going too big leading to mistakes which then destroy her confidence.
Konta’s issues in a nutshell.

I’m really annoyed she took out Petra.
 

skyline

Legend
Halep is playing well I think the Azarenka game was a big confidence boost. I can't see her not coming through the semi. She has the potential to do to Williams exactly what Kerber did.
Halep doesn’t have Kerber’s power. She’s going to need Serena to falter, not that that’s impossible or anything.
 

Raiden

Hall of Fame
She was ripe for a choke. It happened at RG. And it happened during the clay season too where she started to turn things around from her nadir. She hasn't broken the pattern that causes these chokes. She always gets too keen to win, starts going too big leading to mistakes which then destroy her confidence.
There is this pattern whereby she does the extreme opposite of what a choker typically does (get tight) and she goes extra loose/wild/reckless with her shots during crucial moments or big points.

She needs to re-assess her hard earned money she spends on mental coaching cuz the current ones are stuck at giving her a one-gear cheap advice: fake it till you make it.
 

JasonZ

Semi-Pro
Svitolina cant win 7 matches in row, thats why she never won a slam.

But here she only needs to win 5 matches in row, because her second round opponent after beeing one set up.

She will take it
 
Disappointed to see that Barty withdrew from doubles after she lost in singles.
I didn't expect this from her.
They had a good chance to win the title here.
The "sore arm" seems like a poor excuse at this stage.
 

WDC

Rookie
Halep doesn’t have Kerber’s power. She’s going to need Serena to falter, not that that’s impossible or anything.
Halep has upped the power, certainly her serve is heavier these days. The main advantage Kerber has is mentality I would say Simona is timid around Williams.
 

WDC

Rookie
Svitolina cant win 7 matches in row, thats why she never won a slam.

But here she only needs to win 5 matches in row, because her second round opponent after beeing one set up.

She will take it
Can't see anything but Halep in straights myself.
 

WDC

Rookie
Konta was in a perfect position to win both sets and messed up. She should be beating players like her when a slam is within reach.
I think Vondrousova is a much better player myself and will prove to be so, always expected her to win that. Expected Konta to win today but would have been certain second in a ball bash with Williams.
 

Raiden

Hall of Fame
Disappointed to see that Barty withdrew from doubles after she lost in singles.
I didn't expect this from her.
They had a good chance to win the title here.
The "sore arm" seems like a poor excuse at this stage.
There goes the media manufactured notion that Barty's personality is spot free and perfect.

Vikarenka must be quietly fuming ('quietly' because the Belarusian will likely not be dumping on Ash anytime soon, given the lack of better partners)
 
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skyline

Legend
So many times I see that statement only to be left disappointed. I know matchups are a thing but I've seen a lot of meltdowns and just inexplicable play.
She tried hard in her qf against Kerber a few years back (I believe that’s her best W result?). If she plays at that level, she’ll be fine.
 

chimneysweep

Semi-Pro
Halep doesn’t have Kerber’s power. She’s going to need Serena to falter, not that that’s impossible or anything.
Kerber is way better than Halep on grass. Prime Kerber was beating her easily on grass, even on subpar days. Despite Halep being a very bad match up in general for Kerber in general (even beating her regularly on hard courts, despite Kerber being a better hard court player).

Yeah Serena would have to totally poop the bed, play much worse than the final last year (which was already quite bad for her) to ever lose to Halep on grass.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Konta was in a perfect position to win both sets and messed up. She should be beating players like her when a slam is within reach.
She's not yet able to string 7 consecutive wins together. 4 or 5 is her max-out level. At that point she always throws in a stinker against a player she should have beaten with ease like today. Sadly I'm not at all surprised. Can't see her ever winning Wimbledon.
 

WDC

Rookie
Kerber is way better than Halep on grass. Prime Kerber was beating her easily on grass, even on subpar days. Despite Halep being a very bad match up in general for Kerber in general (even beating her regularly on hard courts, despite Kerber being a better hard court player).

Yeah Serena would have to totally poop the bed, play much worse than the final last year (which was already quite bad for her) to ever lose to Halep on grass.
Wiliams legs have gone she can't run, any good player who sticks to the game plan will beat her. Get her head on, start properly and Halep can win just as easily as Kerber. The Courts are slow and low these days you talk as if it is Wimbledon of 20 years ago. Williams will soon tire she was lucky to get through today and Simona will get her bending and stretching.
 

chimneysweep

Semi-Pro
Wiliams legs have gone she can't run, any good player who sticks to the game plan will beat her. Get her head on, start properly and Halep can win just as easily as Kerber. The Courts are slow and low these days you talk as if it is Wimbledon of 20 years ago. Williams will soon tire she was lucky to get through today and Simona will get her bending and stretching.
ROTFL, keep dreaming. Simona will lose to Svitolina in the semis if she doesnt choke (although given that this is Svitolina it wouldnt surprise me). The over the top Halep love here is absurd, i didnt realize I was on www.Simonamakesmewet.com or she had a crazy Federer like fanatic base here. Does her lover Darren Cahill have 20 alt accounts here, that are all now active that broadcasting is done for the day.

Glad I put my $5000 down on a Serena win given who is left, will be the easiest money I ever made.
 
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