2019 WTF 1/2 Final:Roger Federer vs. Stefanos Tistsipas

Who Wins?

  • 08.08.1981 wins in two

    Votes: 24 47.1%
  • 08.08.1981 wins in three

    Votes: 12 23.5%
  • 12.08.1998 wins in two

    Votes: 11 21.6%
  • 12.08.1998 wins in three

    Votes: 4 7.8%

  • Total voters
    51
Not sure to be honest, not a clear favourite for me,
Was Rogers defeat of Nole his final, is Stefanos prepared to die on court for this one, all to play for
 

WhiskeyEE

Legend
Fed gets a play Tsitsi with some deflated confidence after losing to Nadal today. I'm now grateful that nadal won.
 

MeatTornado

Legend
Not sure to be honest, not a clear favourite for me,
Was Rogers defeat of Nole his final, is Stefanos prepared to die on court for this one, all to play for
Roger is the clear favorite, just not an overwhelming one.

The Australia match was an anomaly where Fed actually managed to outdo himself in BP conversion. They've played twice in Bo3 hard court since and Fed won comfortably both times, including just a couple weeks ago.

Fed's capable of dropping his level and randomly losing to anyone at his age (Hello Goffin 2017!), but even an average day at the office should be enough to beat Stefanos. Besides movement, there's not one thing Stef does better than Fed atm.
 
Roger is the clear favorite, just not an overwhelming one.

The Australia match was an anomaly where Fed actually managed to outdo himself in BP conversion. They've played twice in Bo3 hard court since and Fed won comfortably both times, including just a couple weeks ago.

Fed's capable of dropping his level and randomly losing to anyone at his age (Hello Goffin 2017!), but even an average day at the office should be enough to beat Stefanos. Besides movement, there's not one thing Stef does better than Fed atm.
If you say so, he may be the favourite but overwhelming not so sure, sport has a habit of moving on, and one defeat can leed to another if the time is right
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
The Tanking Games:
"It was kind of funny", admitted the Athens native. "During the (Nadal) match I thought about it a couple of times, but at the end I really want to win, and that win means a lot to me because it's against a tough player, the current No.1. So I came very close, and I would say I did leave something in the tank. I didn't really go full, full. I could have gone even more full than that, but I'm not disappointed by that. I wanted to win but probably wasn't willing to die on the court for that.

But despite that, things went well, really well. My main focus is doing well in the semifinals more than this match. But again, I wanted to win, so, yeah." On his physical condition after an almost three-hour match, Tsitsipas, who will be back on court on Saturday for a place in the final, said: "It's okay. My body feels well currently. I don't feel pain anywhere. I feel fresh, honestly. After having a long, difficult match like this, I feel like I can go out and play tomorrow the same way. So I don't have any problem with that."
 
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yokied

Professional
Fraud doesn't like the top spin to the BH from spinny OHBHs like Titty or Timmy and sometimes gifts the apprentices some encouragement awards but I think he wants this one and is feeling it after routining Novak. It might get messy and he'll be a bit conflicted but he'll botclutch his way through this and send Titty back to his hashtags, probably in 3.
 

BeatlesFan

Talk Tennis Guru
Fraud doesn't like the top spin to the BH from spinny OHBHs like Titty or Timmy and sometimes gifts the apprentices some encouragement awards but I think he wants this one and is feeling it after routining Novak. It might get messy and he'll be a bit conflicted but he'll botclutch his way through this and send Titty back to his hashtags, probably in 3.
That was great. :D
 

roysid

Hall of Fame
2009. Fed was the only Big 4 member to advance then too, and lost in the SF.

Had Med won today, it would have been the first time since 1996 that all 8 players won and lost at least 1 match.
In 2009, Fed lost to del potro in round robin.
No one at 3-0 in either group
 
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RF-18

G.O.A.T.
Tsitsipas will get about hours rest. He finished the Nadal match pretty late and he is playing 2 pm today? While Federer has had over 40 hours recovery after a fairly easy showing.

Sometimes I don't understand the thought process by organizers. Also weird nobody has mentioned this in the thread.

Edit: Sorry, Tsitsipas played during the day and not a night match. But still his match finished late in the day. He doesn't even get 24 hour recovery.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Tsitsipas will get about hours rest. He finished the Nadal match pretty late and he is playing 2 pm today? While Federer has had over 40 hours recovery after a fairly easy showing.

Sometimes I don't understand the thought process by organizers. Also weird nobody has mentioned this in the thread.

Edit: Sorry, Tsitsipas played during the day and not a night match. But still his match finished late in the day. He doesn't even get 24 hour recovery.
Tsitsi will be fine. He is 21.

If you need long recovery time against a 38 year old, then you're in trouble.
 

RF-18

G.O.A.T.
Tsitsi will be fine. He is 21.

If you need long recovery time against a 38 year old, then you're in trouble.
So Federer is an unfit player? Why does it matter how old Fed is in this situation? It doesnt make any sense. He is capable of playing 5 hour tennis on the court as evidenced from past matches. Federer has clearly the physical advantage in this match cause he has barely played for the past 40 hours or so. Including the Djokovic match where, to his credit, he routined him. Just cause Tsitsipas is young doesn't mean he doesn't need to recover.
 
So Federer is an unfit player? Why does it matter how old Fed is in this situation? It doesnt make any sense. He is capable of playing 5 hour tennis on the court as evidenced from past matches. Federer has clearly the physical advantage in this match cause he has barely played for the past 40 hours or so. Including the Djokovic match where, to his credit, he routined him. Just cause Tsitsipas is young doesn't mean he doesn't need to recover.
Somehow I don't think you complained when in 2015 Nadal was coming from a very long match against Ferrer, while Djokovic had lots of rest. And that was an old Nadal in his worst year, he wasn't 21.
 
Federer in easy straights. Tsitsipas didn't get even 1 break point in a 3 hours match against a very bad Nadal. Just shows how overrated he is.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
So Federer is an unfit player? Why does it matter how old Fed is in this situation? It doesnt make any sense. He is capable of playing 5 hour tennis on the court as evidenced from past matches. Federer has clearly the physical advantage in this match cause he has barely played for the past 40 hours or so. Including the Djokovic match where, to his credit, he routined him. Just cause Tsitsipas is young doesn't mean he doesn't need to recover.
Tsitsipas should have faster recovery time than Federer. It's human nature.
 

RF-18

G.O.A.T.
Tsitsipas should have faster recovery time than Federer. It's human nature.
He does have faster recovery time, thats correct, but Federer didn't play a 3 hour match 16 hours ago so he doesn't need to recover. As I said he played a match 40 hours ago and that was an easy match physically.

Tsitsipas is young, but it doesn't mean his immune to tiredness. It still affects you at this level. 16 hours recovery is not enough no matter how young you are.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
He does have faster recovery time, thats correct, but Federer didn't play a 3 hour match 16 hours ago so he doesn't need to recover. As I said he played a match 40 hours ago and that was an easy match physically.

Tsitsipas is young, but it doesn't mean his immune to tiredness. It still affects you at this level. 16 hours recovery is not enough no matter how young you are.
I know it's 2 different players, but Djokovic did play over 3 hours against Murray in the Rome 2011 SF and was perfectly fine in the final afterwards. So it's possible.
 
Tsitsipas will get about hours rest. He finished the Nadal match pretty late and he is playing 2 pm today? While Federer has had over 40 hours recovery after a fairly easy showing.

Sometimes I don't understand the thought process by organizers. Also weird nobody has mentioned this in the thread.

Edit: Sorry, Tsitsipas played during the day and not a night match. But still his match finished late in the day. He doesn't even get 24 hour recovery.
Almost an unevitable consequence of the format, and using one, large arena. Ofcourse it is a semi commercial descicion, but I am willing to live with it
 
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