2019 WTF RR: [4.] Daniil Medvedev vs. [7.] Sascha Zverev

Who will win this match?


  • Total voters
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BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
Please enlighten me: why isn't Nadal garanteed a spot in the semis since he beat Tsitsipas today? I mean, if Zverev wins there will be three players with 2-1 record. And in head-to-head, Zverev has beaten Nadal, Nadal has beaten Tsitsipas and Tsitsipas has beaten Zverev... Who gets to be winner and runner-up? Confusing...
Because Zverev already defeated Nadal, you're over complicating it. And he did it in straights.
 

Yugram

Legend
Well, I guess I’ve had enough of GOAT at this tournament. Still plenty of work to do at Davis Cup.
 

StrongRule

Talk Tennis Guru
Well, if this isn't a proof that this tournament is a joke then I don't know what is. You will never see a top-5 player tanking like this in any other event. Not even in 250.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Please enlighten me: why isn't Nadal garanteed a spot in the semis since he beat Tsitsipas today? I mean, if Zverev wins there will be three players with 2-1 record. And in head-to-head, Zverev has beaten Nadal, Nadal has beaten Tsitsipas and Tsitsipas has beaten Zverev... Who gets to be winner and runner-up? Confusing...

EDIT: ok I think I get it, when two are tied it's the hth record, but when three are tied it's the % of set won...
Exactly. Nadal has the worst set win-loss record no matter how Zverev beats Medvedev.

Nadal is 4-4 in sets, while Zverev would be 4-2 or 4-3 if he wins. Tsitsipas is also currently 5-2 in sets.

So Nadal would have the worst sets win-loss record among him, Zverev and Tsitsipas.
 

StrongRule

Talk Tennis Guru
I won’t be surprised if he doesn’t recover from that choke till the HC summer 2020.
It looks like he is tanking. As for Zverev, he did everything against Nadal in this tournament. Showed up against him, played a terrible match against Tsitsipas. (a win over Tsitsipas would give Nadal the semifinal spot had Zverev won before...)
 

StrongRule

Talk Tennis Guru
Isn’t Medvedev losing exactly what you want? You wanted Nadal to lose today ffs.
Still it's annoying how Nadal gave everything to win these 2 matches, and he still goes out. Djokovic has to lose twice in order to leave the tournament, Nadal just once.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Well, if this isn't a proof that this tournament is a joke then I don't know what is. You will never see a top-5 player tanking like this in any other event. Not even in 250.
Blame Nadal for getting destroyed by Zverev. Even winning 1 set would have helped.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
It looks like he is tanking. As for Zverev, he did everything against Nadal in this tournament. Showed up against him, played a terrible match against Tsitsipas. (a win over Tsitsipas would give Nadal the semifinal spot had Zverev won before...)
I doubt he is going to tank. I'm sure he doesn't want to end the year on a 4 match losing streak.
 

Yugram

Legend
Still it's annoying how Nadal gave everything to win these 2 matches, and he still goes out. Djokovic has to lose twice in order to leave the tournament, Nadal just once.
I’ll take 400 points and the joy of beating two top 8 players. Nadal is not winning this event (don’t even want to call it a tournament) any way, so why not to end on a winning note?
 

Yugram

Legend
Don't you wonder why the ATP awards 1500 points to an undefeated winner in this "event?" Crazy stuff, what are they thinking?
When you see ATP doing such things as including Laver Cup into H2H you realize the only thing they care about is money. Lots of Craig’s on Rogie’s money.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
When you see ATP doing such things as including Laver Cup into H2H you realize the only thing they care about is money. Lots of Craig’s on Rogie’s money.
Apples and oranges. Laver Cup is an exo which offers no points. How does offering 1500 points at this "event" equate to any more greed than us usually displayed by the ATP? Tennis is a business.
 

StrongRule

Talk Tennis Guru
This is DISGUSTING to watch. And this is the guy who refused to make a single unforced error in USO final. Even in the last game Nadal had to win 5 points himself. Today he is playing like an absolute mug.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
It looks like he is tanking. As for Zverev, he did everything against Nadal in this tournament. Showed up against him, played a terrible match against Tsitsipas. (a win over Tsitsipas would give Nadal the semifinal spot had Zverev won before...)
Why should he do anything for Nadal?:-D Zverev at least gave him an easy ride in the Shanghai final.
 

AnOctorokForDinner

Talk Tennis Guru
This is DISGUSTING to watch. And this is the guy who refused to make a single unforced error in USO final. Even in the last game Nadal had to win 5 points himself. Today he is playing like an absolute mug.

epic butthurt detected
Гори-гори ясно, чтобы не погасЛОЛ!!
 

SeeingDusk

Hall of Fame
This is DISGUSTING to watch. And this is the guy who refused to make a single unforced error in USO final. Even in the last game Nadal had to win 5 points himself. Today he is playing like an absolute mug.

no incentive for him to try here. He already got eliminated.
 

Yugram

Legend
This is DISGUSTING to watch. And this is the guy who refused to make a single unforced error in USO final. Even in the last game Nadal had to win 5 points himself. Today he is playing like an absolute mug.
Btw, watched this final highlights a few days ago. Crazy, but the quality of tennis was actually getting higher and higher from 1st to 4th set. And Nadal was the better player in both 3rd and 4th set, but choked an easy overhead on bp (or deuce) and got tight in the last games. 5th set dropped in quality but had a lot of drama.
 

Meles

Bionic Poster
This is DISGUSTING to watch. And this is the guy who refused to make a single unforced error in USO final. Even in the last game Nadal had to win 5 points himself. Today he is playing like an absolute mug.
Playing like he's in a dead rubber.:sneaky:
 
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