2019 WTF RR: [4.] Daniil Medvedev vs. [7.] Sascha Zverev

[mike danny]

Still it's annoying how Nadal gave everything to win these 2 matches, and he still goes out. Djokovic has to lose twice in order to leave the tournament, Nadal just once.

Novak's group didn't have 3 players with a 2-1 record. That's why.

 

[Meles]

He doesn't do anything for Nadal, it's for himself. Some atp points, money and pride should be enough

Bah. These guys want titles. Muggery is just a given at WTF.

 

[MajesticMoose]

"Zverev a little bit like a brick layer"

Love those quotes from BG.

 

[StrongRule]

Federer loses in straight sets, wins his next two matches-he is in the semifinal.
Nadal loses in straight sets, wins his next two matches-leaves the tournament.
Talk about a fair format @mike danny

 

[Pheasant]

So you needn't be cumplaining, only fair it's not just Nadal who benefits from medmuggery and medchokes.

LOL. Pop literally shot out of my nose on that one!

 

[Meles]

Bit previous, if Zed wins here he will face theim they will not met until the final of they both make it

Zverev will own Thiem if he serves well.

 

[Nadal15thslam]

Federer loses in straight sets, wins his next two matches-he is in the semifinal.
Nadal loses in straight sets, wins his next two matches-leaves the tournament.
Talk about a fair format @mike danny

Let's have some faith in Medvedev, vamoos! Zverev is only 1 break ahead.

 

[Yugram]

Federer loses in straight sets, wins his next two matches-he is in the semifinal.
Nadal loses in straight sets, wins his next two matches-leaves the tournament.
Talk about a fair format @mike danny

"Federer is 388 years old, no? What he does is incredible, no? I will copy past this nonsense in each thread connected to Federer, no?"

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Btw, watched this final highlights a few days ago. Crazy, but the quality of tennis was actually getting higher and higher from 1st to 4th set. And Nadal was the better player in both 3rd and 4th set, but choked an easy overhead on bp (or deuce) and got tight in the last games. 5th set dropped in quality but had a lot of drama.

So you're admitting the highest quality sets were the ones Nadal lost

 

[StrongRule]

Let's have some faith in Medvedev, vamoos! Zverev is only 1 break ahead.

Dude, Medvedev isn't even TRYING. Do you see what lazy shots he hits? In the second set he will tank it 6-0.

 

[mike danny]

Federer loses in straight sets, wins his next two matches-he is in the semifinal.
Nadal loses in straight sets, wins his next two matches-leaves the tournament.
Talk about a fair format @mike danny

Like I said, Novak's group did not have 3 players with a 2-1 record. It is perfectly fair.

Look at the groups separately. Don't bundle them in together.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Med is deliberately playing stupid dropshots, match is done lol.

 

[Yugram]

So you're admitting the highest quality sets were the ones Nadal lost

So what? Djovak was the worst player for 5 sets in Wimbledon final and won.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Brad Gilbert's sitting at courtside and says the speed gun is juiced. "Nobody can hit a 132 MPH serve out wide as Zverev did. The speed gun is way off."

 

[StrongRule]

Zverev is playing perfect tennis again. But of course against Tsitsipas he was an unforced errors machine.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Have to admit that Zverev has definitely improved around the net.

 

[StrongRule]

Like I said, Novak's group did not have 3 players with a 2-1 record. It is perfectly fair.

Look at the groups separately. Don't bundle them in together.

So Federer was simply lucky that Thiem won the matches which matter, while Zverev was hot garbage against Tsitsipas. Works nice.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Federer loses in straight sets, wins his next two matches-he is in the semifinal.
Nadal loses in straight sets, wins his next two matches-leaves the tournament.
Talk about a fair format @mike danny

Goaterer loses a competitive match, wins two matches dominantly = he's good enough for SF
Indoordull gets destroyed in a match, wins a match by the skin of his butt, wins another tight match = he's not good enough for SF

 

[StrongRule]

I hope Nadal never plays this tournament again. It doesn't deserve him.

 

[Latetothegame]

Zverev will own Thiem if he serves well.

Could be a Next gen final, the two youngest players
Zed v Tsits

 

[Sudacafan]

Goaterer loses a competitive match, wins two matches dominantly = he's good enough for SF
Indoordull gets destroyed in a match, wins a match by the skin of his butt, wins another tight match = he's not good enough for SF

And as of this moment Indoordull is not out of the SF, in spite he may not be good for it.

 

[helixx]

disappointed

 

[ChrisRF]

Brad Gilbert's sitting at courtside and says the speed gun is juiced. "Nobody can hit a 132 MPH serve out wide as Zverev did. The speed gun is way off."

132 isn't even that much. In the 1st match I saw a 147 and constantly over 140.

 

[Yugram]

Thiem or Zed to smash Federer again in the finals

 

[Sudacafan]

I hope Nadal never plays this tournament again. It doesn't deserve him.

Same as Fed in RG

 

[Nadal15thslam]

Wtf is actually a nice idea. The problem is that it's the last tournament of the season and players are either tired or injured. It would be better to move it in the middle of the year

 

[tudwell]

Federer loses in straight sets, wins his next two matches-he is in the semifinal.
Nadal loses in straight sets, wins his next two matches-leaves the tournament.
Talk about a fair format @mike danny

Fed’s 4-2 in sets, Thiem’s 4-3, Nadal’s 4-4. He wouldn’t advance even if he were in the other group if he had that same record. Sounds fair to me.

And actually he could still advance top of his group if Zverev loses despite having a worse record than either player in the other group (not to mention Tsitsipas), so this format has actually been quite forgiving for Nadal.

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Goodness can you imagine that. Madhouse unleashed!!

Probably better in theory than application. Like how Djokovic and Nadal played doubles with each other in 2010.

 

[mike danny]

So Federer was simply lucky that Thiem won the matches which matter, while Zverev was hot garbage against Tsitsipas. Works nice.

Did you even read carefully what I wrote?

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

So what? Djovak was the worst player for 5 sets in Wimbledon final and won.

I mean this is some of the strongest weak era evidence you can cite, heh. Shet like this doesn't happen in great matches.

 

[Latetothegame]

Zverev is playing perfect tennis again. But of course against Tsitsipas he was an unforced errors machine.

He mentally conceded against Tsitsipas, not sure why.

 

[Robert Baratheon]

BREAK PLEASE NOW

 

[Sudacafan]

Zed is not sure bet for SF yet

 

[BeatlesFan]

Two stupid points from Zverev!

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

Can’t happen till the

Fes’s 4-2 in sets, Thiem’s 4-3, Nadal’s 4-4. He wouldn’t advance even if he were in the other group if he had that same record. Sounds fair to me.

Thank you for this also @Latetothegame

I was mistaken and thought it would be SF

 

[Sudacafan]

BREAK PLEASE NOW

Why?

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

I hope Nadal never plays this tournament again. It doesn't deserve him.

To be fair, tennis as a whole doesn't deserve such a morally perfect specimen as The Nadal, so here's to Nadal never playing any tennis tournament again

 

[Robert Baratheon]

Why?

Zverev
Madlad
Fedal

 

[Sudacafan]

Zverev
Madlad
Fedal

OK

 

[Yugram]

I mean this is some of the strongest weak era evidence you can cite, heh. Shet like this doesn't happen in great matches.

Eh, still better than Baghdatis-Philippoussis circus.

 

[StrongRule]

Medvedev tanked the first game with some stupid errors and Zverev never let him come back. Expect a 6-0 in the second set.

 

[Meles]

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Eh, still better than Baghdatis-Philippoussis circus.

Pfft, Scud would crush pushvedev on grass with stunning ease.

 

[BeatlesFan]

Rafa not feeling it in his hotel room tonight.

 

[Meles]

 

[Rafa.the.Magnificent]

Sascha deservedly takes the first set. Going to keep hoping Med can get it going and make this a contest.

 

[Djokovic2011]

Pretty entertaining thread so far. Imagine StrongRule's reaction if Zverev actually wins.

 

[helixx]

 

[Federer and Del Potro]

 

[BeatlesFan]

Pfft, Scud would crush pushvedev on grass with stunning ease.

Exactly, and none of those who endlessly mention either of these guys ever watched a single match they ever played.