2019 Wuhan Open - WTA Premier 5
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ScentOfDefeat
G.O.A.T.
Love it.
It reminds me of the 90's, where not every hardcourt tournament was the same shade of blue.
SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
@helixx
While such a condition does not always cause pain, it can be very painful at times. Unfortunately, I've had a similar (nerve entrapment) in the cervical part of my spine. The pain was unbearable for quite a while.
Seems foolish to keep playing when something like that flares up. Pain is nature's way of telling us that something is wrong. Andre Agassi was foolish to mask his back pain with cortisone shots just so that he could play injured.
Are you suggesting that Simoma should have just played thru the pain due to a herniated disk in her lumbar/spine? This has been an ongoing issue since, at least, Aug or Sept of last year.
While such a condition does not always cause pain, it can be very painful at times. Unfortunately, I've had a similar (nerve entrapment) in the cervical part of my spine. The pain was unbearable for quite a while.
Seems foolish to keep playing when something like that flares up. Pain is nature's way of telling us that something is wrong. Andre Agassi was foolish to mask his back pain with cortisone shots just so that he could play injured.
Aussie Darcy
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Riske continuing her brilliant 2019.
Makes her first ever QF of a Premier+ tournament with a 6-2 6-1 dismantling of last years SFist Wang Qiang.
This is following her first slam QF at Wimbledon this year.
Makes her first ever QF of a Premier+ tournament with a 6-2 6-1 dismantling of last years SFist Wang Qiang.
This is following her first slam QF at Wimbledon this year.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Wang will be counting her lucky stars she made the USO QF cause she had a lot of points to defend in the Asian swing:
SF in Hiroshima
Title in Guangzhou
SF in Wuhan
SF in Beijing
Runner up in Hong Kong
Runner up at the Elite Trophy
Down 3 spots in the live rankings with her loss to Riske, has 390 points to defend next week too.
SF in Hiroshima
Title in Guangzhou
SF in Wuhan
SF in Beijing
Runner up in Hong Kong
Runner up at the Elite Trophy
Down 3 spots in the live rankings with her loss to Riske, has 390 points to defend next week too.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
The ALWAYS under the radar Petra Martic is quietly through to the QF's as well.
Her 2019 has been understated but quite good:
3R Aus Open
SF at Premier Charleston
Title in Istanbul
QF at Premier Mandatory Madrid
QF French Open
SF in Birmingham
4R Wimbledon
4R US Open
Runner up at Premier Zhenghzou
QF in Wuhan* (still going)
She's at a career high #20 at the moment and with this QF, she's up to #16 in the live rankings, she's at #14 in the live race rankings.
Her 2019 has been understated but quite good:
3R Aus Open
SF at Premier Charleston
Title in Istanbul
QF at Premier Mandatory Madrid
QF French Open
SF in Birmingham
4R Wimbledon
4R US Open
Runner up at Premier Zhenghzou
QF in Wuhan* (still going)
She's at a career high #20 at the moment and with this QF, she's up to #16 in the live rankings, she's at #14 in the live race rankings.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Pliskova playing like trash and Yastremska breadticks her in the 1st.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Yastremska serving to send Pliskova home in straight sets.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Yastremska sends Pliskova packing.
Crappy performance from Karolina who kept hitting easy 2nd serves into the net.
Crappy performance from Karolina who kept hitting easy 2nd serves into the net.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Barty will retain the #1 ranking at the end of Wuhan.
Should have a decent grip on it now, didn't play Beijing last year while Pliskova made the 3R (120 points). Then Karolina has runner up points in Tianjin to defend while Barty has none.
Pliskova has SF points at the YEC (625 points) to end the year, Svitolina is defending champion points at the YEC (1500 points) while Barty has champion points at the Elite Trophy (620 points).
In the race rankings Ash is #1 at 5666 points, Pliskova is #2 at 5360 and Halep is #3 at 4897 points.
Looks like Barty could be the year end #1.
Should have a decent grip on it now, didn't play Beijing last year while Pliskova made the 3R (120 points). Then Karolina has runner up points in Tianjin to defend while Barty has none.
Pliskova has SF points at the YEC (625 points) to end the year, Svitolina is defending champion points at the YEC (1500 points) while Barty has champion points at the Elite Trophy (620 points).
In the race rankings Ash is #1 at 5666 points, Pliskova is #2 at 5360 and Halep is #3 at 4897 points.
Looks like Barty could be the year end #1.
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There are a number of players that "could be" YE#1 - technically all top 10 players in the Race. Barty is best positioned at the moment with few hundred points as cushion and therefore has a bigger chance than everyone else for sure.
It all depends on what happens in Whuan (Barty, Kvitova, Svitolina still in the tournament), Beijing, Finals and in between as some will play smaller events before the Finals.
It all depends on what happens in Whuan (Barty, Kvitova, Svitolina still in the tournament), Beijing, Finals and in between as some will play smaller events before the Finals.
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NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
I'm not.
But I do remember people glorifying Simona and yet mock some of these girl that retired and yet Simona has been pulling this move before.
So it is suggesting what was my comment is. This doesn't bode well with Halep never give up fan boys.
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
Stephens could win this but I think Yastremska will beat Stephens/Kvitova.
Let's see. Good line up so far except Riske.
Let's see. Good line up so far except Riske.
TagUrIt
Hall of Fame
I was actually VERY surprised at this result, but at the same time Dayana has been playing really well lately. I’m proud of the young Ukrainian.
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
If you saw Pliskova vs Anisimova, you could see Pliskova is not serving at her best ability so I predict Yastremska could benefit a bit by that.
Didn't expect getting trashed tho.
TagUrIt
Hall of Fame
No, I didn’t see it. I just know the “Ice Queen” usually wins and her serve is one of her weapons. I’ll go back and check out that match.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Oh I was surprised too but I watched the match and Pliskova was playing like trash. Pliskova is truly an enigma. Just came off a Premier title in Zhengzhou but gets easily beaten by Yastremska. Same as we've seen all year, wins the Rome title, loses 3R of the French. Wins Eastbourne, loses 4R at Wimbledon etc.
She's just too inconsistent. While Barty and others can build a solid winning streak after winning tournaments, Pliskova just can't continue.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Are you joking? You think Serena who's #7 in the race could finish YE#1 even though she's not playing Wuhan or Beijing next week? She won't even qualify for the YEC at this rate. And then there's players like Bencic and Bertens who are out of Wuhan but still top 10 and don't really have a chance at being YE #1. Don't try to say that anyone in the top 10 race could finish YE#1. Serena, Bencic, Bertens and even Svitolina have 0 shot at being YE#1.
I was just trying to show who has the best shot at #1 and you tried to be passive aggressive by calling me out without quoting me.
chicagodude
Hall of Fame
Realistically only Pliskova and Barty are really in the running for YE #1, with outside chances for Halep (tho we may as well rule her out with her injury) and Andreescu if she catches fire and wins everything in sight rest of the year. the rest is too far back.
First of all you are the only one aggressive here.. If I would've intended to quote you I would've done so, but I didn't.
Second of all, Serena is playing Beijing (or so it looks at the moment based on the main draw announcement) ---- fact check again before posting.
Third of all, I said all top 10 players in the Race have theoretical chances (possible outcome) to clinch YE#1 which is still true whether or not you agree with me but it's all about numbers. This is based on their current points and the total number of points still in play until the end of the season. While the likelihood for some of them is very low (arguably near 0), which I totally agree with, it does not change the fact it's still possible.
Now, if Barty wins Whuan or Beijing or runs deep in both enough to put another +/-1000 points in between her and Pliskova, she will almost be guaranteed YE#1. This is why I said it all depends who is doing what before the Finals. If Barty does not manage to distance from Pliskova in Whuan and Beijing and Pliskova, Halep or Andreescu catch up (one of them wins Beijing for example), it will all come down to the Finals to establish who the YE#1 is.
Barty looks good though especially with Pliskova and Halep out of Whuan, but it's not done deal just yet.
chicagodude
Hall of Fame
By the way, the race rankings really give a clear picture of the difference between the WTA and ATP right now.
On the WTA side, #10 Bertens will likely miss the finals despite having > 3500 pts, while on the ATP side even Schwartzman at #14 with only 1850 pts still has a reasonable shot at the finals since current #8 Berrettini has only 2185 pts.
The difference in point distribution for tournaments between ATP and WTA is negligible. Wide top without dominant forces in the WTA, and only a few players competing for all big titles on the men's side.
On the WTA side, #10 Bertens will likely miss the finals despite having > 3500 pts, while on the ATP side even Schwartzman at #14 with only 1850 pts still has a reasonable shot at the finals since current #8 Berrettini has only 2185 pts.
The difference in point distribution for tournaments between ATP and WTA is negligible. Wide top without dominant forces in the WTA, and only a few players competing for all big titles on the men's side.
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
She just did as of today. So annoying. Can she at least play WTA Final where she could face the top 8 players?
Deep down she wants to meet Andreescu, Osaka and Halep again I'm sure.
Also, I thought it was typo but you did it 3 times. It's Wuhan
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PDJ
G.O.A.T.
Did any one seriously think she would play?She just did as of today. So annoying. Can she at least play WTA Final where she could face the top 8 players?
Deep down she wants to meet Andreescu, Osaka and Halep again I'm sure.
Also, I thought it was typo but you did it 3 times. It's Wuhan
Surely not.
She just did as of today. So annoying. Can she at least play WTA Final where she could face the top 8 players?
Deep down she wants to meet Andreescu, Osaka and Halep again I'm sure.
Also, I thought it was typo but you did it 3 times. It's Wuhan
Dang... I'll be in trouble with @Aussie Darcy. But in my defense, before I posted I checked the news and there was nothing yet .... and I still can't find anything on her withdrawal. Not that I don't believe you but what's the source?
Wuhan it is... I stand corrected.
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SystemicAnomaly
Bionic Poster
Hardly can be characterized as a MOVE. i believe it to be a legit reason for retiring. This is a significant injury that affected her for months last year. Calling it a move inplies otherwise.
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
The wiki page. But they are wrong a couple of times so it's not reliable.
Patrick is in China tho.
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TagUrIt
Hall of Fame
I just went back and watched the highlights, that wasn’t the Karolina Plishkova I’ve seen play before. Win or lose she doesn’t show any emotions on the courts. However, in that match she had no energy and seem defeated before she even played. There were plenty of balls I felt she could have gotten to and she didn’t even try. Kudos to Dayana and I’m sure it gives her confidence for her next match against Kvitty, but I’m not so sure she’ll beat the next Czech.
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
I was confident before but Kvity really smoked Sloane tho. One thing for sure it's gonna be a big babe tennis.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Martic with a costly double fault on break point at 4-3 in the third which gives Ash the break. She completely stuffs the second match point but gets it done on the 3rd.
Barty into the Wuhan SF’s for the third straight year.
Barty into the Wuhan SF’s for the third straight year.
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
What a good match. Both are crafty, Martic has grown this year. Barty in the end has better serve and break in tense moment for Martic.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
I love Sabalenka, but it's hard not to root for Rybakina
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
Rybakina breadsticked Sabalenka to level it up to final set.
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
Petra thrive in Wuhan, the love from Chinese supporter motivate her.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Petra crushing it, races to a 5-1 lead. Playing real well, Yastremska looking nervy.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Sabalenka takes the 3rd set and match 6-1!
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Bugs me so much seeing Petra playing this well and yet she just can't back it up at the slams where it counts.
Since her comeback in May 2017 she's made the QF just twice at the slams (2017 USO QF, 2019 AO Final). In that same time frame she's won a Premier Mandatory and Premier 5, additional Premier 5 Final and a handful of others QF's and SF's.
And yes, I know she made it to the Aus Open Final this year but she lost to Konta at Wimbledon in the 4R despite being a 2x champ and then lost 2R at the USO to Petkovic..
Since her comeback in May 2017 she's made the QF just twice at the slams (2017 USO QF, 2019 AO Final). In that same time frame she's won a Premier Mandatory and Premier 5, additional Premier 5 Final and a handful of others QF's and SF's.
And yes, I know she made it to the Aus Open Final this year but she lost to Konta at Wimbledon in the 4R despite being a 2x champ and then lost 2R at the USO to Petkovic..
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Kvitova easily through to the SF.
She'll play the winner of Svitolina/Riske.
She'll play the winner of Svitolina/Riske.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Didn’t see Riske winning in straights over Svitolina! Thought maybe in 3 but wow good job for her!
So nice to see Alison having her breakthrough year though. Feels weird to say that since she’s had a decent-ish career and she’s 29 but this year has included her first slam QF, second career title, first Premier+ SF and first win over a #1. Huge!!
So nice to see Alison having her breakthrough year though. Feels weird to say that since she’s had a decent-ish career and she’s 29 but this year has included her first slam QF, second career title, first Premier+ SF and first win over a #1. Huge!!
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
#1 Barty v #9 Sabalenka
Riske v #5 Kvitova
Pretty much all of these potential finals are juicy:
Barty v Kvitová have a nice rivalry which Petra has dominated but Barty won their last match which was in Miami.
Barty v Riske. This would be a matchup from the Wimbledon 4R where the American stunned the Aussie.
Sabalenka v Pliskova. Sabalenka beat Petra at last years USO, Kvitová got her revenge by winning their match in Sydney this year. Defending champ vs the always popular Petra would be fun.
Sabalenka v Riske. Probably my least exciting final matchup but still fun. They played in the final of Shenzhen to start the year with Sabalenka just holding on to win 7-5 in the 3rd.
Riske v #5 Kvitova
Pretty much all of these potential finals are juicy:
Barty v Kvitová have a nice rivalry which Petra has dominated but Barty won their last match which was in Miami.
Barty v Riske. This would be a matchup from the Wimbledon 4R where the American stunned the Aussie.
Sabalenka v Pliskova. Sabalenka beat Petra at last years USO, Kvitová got her revenge by winning their match in Sydney this year. Defending champ vs the always popular Petra would be fun.
Sabalenka v Riske. Probably my least exciting final matchup but still fun. They played in the final of Shenzhen to start the year with Sabalenka just holding on to win 7-5 in the 3rd.
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Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Riske has dropped just 7 games in her last 2 matches and they were against high caliber players.
Lost just 3 games to last years SFist and USO QFist Wang
And tonight lost 4 games to #3 and WTA finals champ Svitolina.
Kvitová better watch out.
Lost just 3 games to last years SFist and USO QFist Wang
And tonight lost 4 games to #3 and WTA finals champ Svitolina.
Kvitová better watch out.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Top 10 wins in 2019 prior to this week:
Barty: 6
Sabalenka: 0
Riske: 3
Kvitová: 2
Barty: 6
Sabalenka: 0
Riske: 3
Kvitová: 2
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
I want Sabalenka vs Kvitova for final.
flyingboris
Legend
It's designed for maximum confusion: looks like grass on the court, looks like clay outside the court, is actually neither of these
TagUrIt
Hall of Fame
Sabalenka is one of my favorites, I’d like to see her defend her title. Getting past Ash Barty is going to be tough though. Barty just seems to beat her opponents down with her game. Her slice backhand wears her on opponent’s patience and the she drills them with a powerful forehand. Her serve is pretty strong too.
To get a W, Sabalenka is going to have to keep control of her emotions, utilize that big serve of hers and not be in a hurry to win points.
Just ridiculous power!!!!
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
It's nice to see improvement of attendance in Wuhan from last year although there is no Wang Qiang this year.
China is the hope of tennis to still alive and kicking!
China is the hope of tennis to still alive and kicking!
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