2020 ASB Classic - ATP 250

Who wins the title?


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stringertom

Bionic Poster
Could have been a shaky start for Shapovalov - he was down 15-40 in his first service game, second serve, and then caught his toss because he messed it up. I thought for sure he'd get broken to start. But he hit a few good serves and good groundies, held on, and then snatched a break, now up a break midway through the first. Still not playing great, but so far playing well enough for the opponent he has.

Shapo had another shaky moment when he was serving up a set and 4-3; missed some shots, clearly got annoyed with himself and let it get to him. Pulled it together for the tiebreak, though, advanced in straights.

Next up for him is Humbert. Should also be good.
All-lefty QF. Used to be an issue in 2017 for Shapo. Glad that got fixed.
 

gogo

Hall of Fame
I'm finally getting a chance to watch a replay of the Shapo/Pops match. I still can't get over the whole 'grey Poupon' atmosphere surrounding the court. It just feels uncomfortable when the player is sitting in their zone and someone could easily accidentally slide their oyster tray down your back. Nope. Uncomfortable setting.
 

Sparlingo

Hall of Fame
I'm finally getting a chance to watch a replay of the Shapo/Pops match. I still can't get over the whole 'grey Poupon' atmosphere surrounding the court. It just feels uncomfortable when the player is sitting in their zone and someone could easily accidentally slide their oyster tray down your back. Nope. Uncomfortable setting.
Seems icky when there is play on and they show someone intently cutting a steak and talking across to the another person not paying attention to the play. Anyway, Shapo is improving in leaps and bounds.
 

The Green Mile

Bionic Poster
Seems icky when there is play on and they show someone intently cutting a steak and talking across to the another person not paying attention to the play. Anyway, Shapo is improving in leaps and bounds.
Yeah, well, the corporate boxes are always a bit of a joke really. Many unattended and the ones that are full, generally quite noisy and obnoxious. A lot of them aren't really there for the tennis per say, just the social side of things. Every year, there's boxes being told off lol...
 

gogo

Hall of Fame
Yeah, well, the corporate boxes are always a bit of a joke really. Many unattended and the ones that are full, generally quite noisy and obnoxious. A lot of them aren't really there for the tennis per say, just the social side of things. Every year, there's boxes being told off lol...
Many countries have the same thing, as do we in Canada. But the difference is the corporate boxes are way above court level and we can ignore them, as can the players.
 

The Green Mile

Bionic Poster
So you're in NZ? Please share your live updates with us!! that would be wonderful. (I've always loved your comments and I'd appreciate your 'live' perspective at a tournament.)
Hmm, I'll try. In the past, I've posted some after thoughts once I've finished for the day. Usually, I'm too invested in the tennis to use my phone.
 

Max G.

Legend
Shapovalov and Humbert starting out. Humbert saves BPs, Shapo annoyed and bounces his racquet.

I don't get it. Shapo's not playing that bad. His play isn't that great either, but it seems like if he just got himself fired up instead of down on himself he'd dominate.
 

Sparlingo

Hall of Fame
Shapovalov and Humbert starting out. Humbert saves BPs, Shapo annoyed and bounces his racquet.

I don't get it. Shapo's not playing that bad. His play isn't that great either, but it seems like if he just got himself fired up instead of down on himself he'd dominate.
If Shapo doesn't beat himself then he is hard to beat.
 

InvisibleSoul

Hall of Fame
Humbert and Shapo have a very similar aesthetic to their game. Shapo is a bit flashier, but perhaps Humbert is a better returner? It looked like he was able to read Shapo's serve a lot better than the other way around.
 

The Green Mile

Bionic Poster
Paire on 14 UEs already, Millman holding for 4-1. Benoit finally boiling over and smashing his racquet. Horrible play. Millman disciplined as usual and is peppering the forehand on serve and in rallies on deuce side. Dude has changed direction DTL like maybe thrice lol...
 

Yoneyama

Hall of Fame
God I love watching Lopez, his serve is so aesthetically pleasing and his game style is just so unique these days.
 

gogo

Hall of Fame
Oh dear, my boy didn't look good there, just when I thought he was taking off.
Maybe it was having the girlfriend there that threw him off? Is that the first time she's attended?

ETA: stupid spelling error. It's 'threw' not 'through'. Sheesh.
 
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prairiegirl

Hall of Fame
No, she's been with him since ATP cup. Actually, I think he was sick. He was coughing badly and he looked really pale, not himself at all.
 

prairiegirl

Hall of Fame
If you have replay you can see he's coughing badly between points, his energy was low and even between points he looked lethargic. Not like himself at all.
 

SeeingDusk

Hall of Fame
Hurkacz broken already from his first service. Looks like it’s gonna be a quick night with the way paire is playing.
 

Yoneyama

Hall of Fame
Good match so far. Kinda pulling for Humbert though, it would be great to get his first title especially against a fellow Frenchman.
 

Yoneyama

Hall of Fame
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY do people keep hitting easy shots to Paire's backhand, let alone why do people hit to it at all??????????? His backhand is amazing but his forehand is the worst in the top 100, possibly top 200.

I literally do not understand why players don't just constantly hit to his forehand in the same way that everyone thrashes Roger's backhand for example.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
WHYYYYYYYYYYYYY do people keep hitting easy shots to Paire's backhand, let alone why do people hit to it at all??????????? His backhand is amazing but his forehand is the worst in the top 100, possibly top 200.

I literally do not understand why players don't just constantly hit to his forehand in the same way that everyone thrashes Roger's backhand for example.
Understand that players have preferred patterns ingrained from countless matches they play when opposing the majority of RH players with dominant FHs. It’s a comfort zone to hit to the ad court side so even a lefty like Humbert prefers CC FH over DTL.

It all worked out though with the clutch 3rd set TB being the difference. Congrats to our first time winner!
 

Yoneyama

Hall of Fame
Understand that players have preferred patterns ingrained from countless matches they play when opposing the majority of RH players with dominant FHs. It’s a comfort zone to hit to the ad court side so even a lefty like Humbert prefers CC FH over DTL.

It all worked out though with the clutch 3rd set TB being the difference. Congrats to our first time winner!
Yeah I know there is ingrained patterns and everyone has them to some degree, but I think that Paire's FH is just such a glaring weakness it's crazy to see people ignore it.

I was stressing hard everytime Humbert lost a match point but I am glad he pulled through in the end. Good match.
 

Max G.

Legend
Paire rips his FH too though. It's more prone to break down for sure, but he can also blast it. When Paire's playing well, just hitting to his FH isn't gonna do it.
 

The Green Mile

Bionic Poster
From watching Paire/Humbert live in person, I'm pretty certain Humbert did make a conscious effort to hit to the Paire forehand as often as possible, unlike say Sinner, who tried to bully the Paire backhand often. Obviously a good choice from Humbert, we already know this, but Paire's backhand is an offensively world class shot. Watching it unfold in front of you, it's just something else. Paire's forehand was rather quality in his last three or so matches at least anyway, when he's effectively changing direction big DTL, he's quite a handful.

Humbert is a well round and dogged competitor, glad he went all the way. He was always ahead and pressuring Paire in the final set, probably the more deserving winner. Dude picked apart John's serve impressively in the SF lol, his anticipation and reaction time was incredible on return, he's got that nice backhand redirection counter return down packed. Lovely controlled aggression on the forehand wing as well. He also won me a fair amount of $ for my outright winner bet haha (y)

I think Hurkacz's legs gave in sometime in the 3rd set against Paire, he wasn't getting much out of his serve at one point and was struggling for low balls. Started to play like a man suffering mid way in the final set.
 

The Green Mile

Bionic Poster
Also, the Paire antics were very entertaining from a crowd perspective, such a damn roller coaster. Still a bit of a crowd favourite, even though he tempts the crowd with a lot of his code violations. There were two ball abuse code violations and a racquet abuse violation from the two matches I watched of his, plus a number of other incidents involving the crowd and Umpire.

Some dude like three rows in front of me kept on shouting "Come on Pinkie!" (Hurkacz), sometimes when Paire was a few seconds away from serving, Paire finally had a meltdown about it and raged to the Umpire. The dude kept on saying it for a while, though finally got removed eventually :-D Just listening to the old ladies at the back of me "That Paire is such a disgrace to tennis. Him and that bloody Kyrgios." :X3: You hear a lot of moronic stuff from your fellow spectators, their insights into tennis, the rules and everything else, enjoyable listen. It's a very old and white crowd as well, the average age must be like 50 here...
 
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