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Bionic Poster
Sorry, I've forgotten the reason it's being played at Flushing Meadows and not at its home venue. Can some kind soul remind me why this is happening (I've not heard that the virus has hit Ohio any harder than New York)?

Thanks.
 

NADALalot

Semi-Pro
Ned needs more soft draws.
Rafa has beaten US Open Champions in all his US Open title-runs.
Nobody has had it harder than Rafa in North America.
And when Rafa swept the North American Summer in 2013, Rafa beat Djokovic at Canada, Rafa beat Federer at Cincy, and Rafa beat Djokovic at US Open.
Also, Rafa has been extraordinarily unlucky when he was too injured to play the 2012 and 2014 US Oepns, also had to play 2009 US Open with a stomach strain which became worse and torn by the Semis, and retired from 2018 US Open Semis.
 
Medvedev will win about 15 hardcourt slams, so that will be one of the most valuable slam finals of Rafa's career.
That's not the usual response from Ned fans. They usually point out USO 10 and 13 to convince me he had tough draws, but other than the final, that wasn't the case there either.
 

NADALalot

Semi-Pro

Third Serve

Legend
Rafa has beaten US Open Champions in all his US Open title-runs.
Nobody has had it harder than Rafa in North America.
And when Rafa swept the North American Summer in 2013, Rafa beat Djokovic at Canada, Rafa beat Federer at Cincy, and Rafa beat Djokovic at US Open.
Also, Rafa has been extraordinarily unlucky when he was too injured to play the 2012 and 2014 US Oepns, also had to play 2009 US Open with a stomach strain which became worse and torn by the Semis, and retired from 2018 US Open Semis.
To quote @AnOctorokForDinner ...

What is this narrative?
 

Bobby Jr

G.O.A.T.
Ohio FYI, in some key ways, are doing worse than New York (state) and Cincinnatti is doing worse than NYC.

Ohio is still on a growth trend whereas New York is in decline, passing the point in the curve where Ohio is now about 6-7 weeks ago.

Daily new cases (7 day moving average - most recent data)
Ohio - 864/day
New York - 765/day

This despite NY having a 65% higher population.

Squashing the new case rate is the key thing at this point and holding an event might not be a good idea, even if on optics (and what those optics might result in by way of broader adherence to public health initiatives like distancing, mask wearing etc.)
Sorry, I've forgotten the reason it's being played at Flushing Meadows and not at its home venue. Can some kind soul remind me why this is happening (I've not heard that the virus has hit Ohio any harder than New York)?
 

NADALalot

Semi-Pro
Ohio FYI, in some key ways, are doing worse than New York (state) and Cincinnatti is doing worse than NYC.

Ohio is still on a growth trend whereas New York is in decline, passing the point in the curve where Ohio is now about 6-7 weeks ago.

Daily new cases (7 day moving average - most recent data)
Ohio - 864/day
New York - 765/day

This despite NY having a 65% higher population.

Squashing the new case rate is the key thing at this point and holding an event might not be a good idea, even if on optics (and what those optics might result in by way of broader adherence to public health initiatives like distancing, mask wearing etc.)
The virus is irrelevant because tennis players won't be mixing with the public, and they won't be partying or anything social either.
 

Bartelby

Bionic Poster
It's called creating a 'bubble', as they say, or playing in a prison yard ... to exaggerate ... but perhaps less than you'd think.
 

Bobby Jr

G.O.A.T.
Yeah, that's what they say. The mechanics of getting players there (airlines, transport) is comparatively very unsafe no matter how you do it. And large groups of people arriving in a city, and the leaving again soon after, is another serious vector for spreading the disease.

Then there's hotels, daily tournament transport, catering - all significant risks regardless if the players/entourage are kept separate from fans completely.

Go look at the many examples of how just one pre-symptomatic person can cause a new outbreak despite preventative measures. Small failings in the system, especially in a society like America where a significant portion of the population are willfully ignorant (or, worse, anti-science) compound the risks.

FWIW, holding the US Open is a marginal idea as it stands. Congregating upwards of 750 people a city, however well-intentioned, from all corners of the world at this stage seems a boneheaded idea given what we've seen. I hope that's wrong but we'll see in the next few weeks how things play out as various places ease their restrictions while there's still rampant community transmission going on.
The virus is irrelevant because tennis players won't be mixing with the public, and they won't be partying or anything social either.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Sorry, I've forgotten the reason it's being played at Flushing Meadows and not at its home venue. Can some kind soul remind me why this is happening (I've not heard that the virus has hit Ohio any harder than New York)?

Thanks.
Sureshs is a benevolent leader in these demanding times and shows it by allowing The Real Slam to be played away from Cincinnati to mitigate the spread of the unmentionable to the great Mid-west.
 
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