2020 Pre Season Poll - Favorite To Win NCAA's

Who is taking home the ship?

  • Buckeyes

    Votes: 6 17.6%
  • Texas

    Votes: 2 5.9%
  • UNC

    Votes: 2 5.9%
  • UCLA

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Deacs

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Gators

    Votes: 8 23.5%
  • Baylor

    Votes: 10 29.4%
  • USC

    Votes: 2 5.9%
  • South Carolina

    Votes: 1 2.9%
  • Other (Please comment who!)

    Votes: 1 2.9%

  • Total voters
    34

Liam Grennon

Semi-Pro
*To clarify this is for outdoors*
Who are you taking this year? My top choice would probably be UNC or Texas.

UNC made a really deep run last year and add some freshmen who will most likely start. If Will Bloomberg can stay healthy he can compete with just about everyone. They dropped a great leader & player in Boyden, but hopefully they can recover with the talent they bring back. Ben at number two is also pretty scary. Not Ito. But very close.

Texas is defending a national title. They lost 3 players I belive, but had one of the strongest recruiting classes last year. They have the best 1 - 2 punch in college tennis and Ito is a monster.

Florida will be very strong, as will Ohio state, but I don't have them as my personal favorites.
 

andfor

Legend
I'm not following close enough to make that guess. With the exception of South Carolina you're list is pretty good. Who would replace So. Carolina? Florida State or another team?
 
Texas A&M - Valcherot/Aguilar/Habib (in some order) are as good as it gets at 1/2/3. Barnaby Smith at 4 is very solid as well and they have options with many guys at 5 and 6. Also, they get
Illinois - Kova with Brown/Clark/Montsi are very good. Budic helps solidify another spot. Depth at 6 is issue
Virginia - have to include them IF Nakashima returns. Word on street is that he is gone, but nothing official. With him, a very solid top 4 (Carl, Brandon, Gianni, Ryan). Alshon and Lord will have to produce at 5 and 6 though

In addition to South Carolina, UCLA seems to be behind everybody on that list. Keegan and Govind is solid at 1 and 2, but depth was their issue last year and depth will be their issue again this year
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
Both my heart and my head say the Gators are going to be the hardest team to beat this year - their depth that was arguably the best in the nation last year is the best this year 1-10, their dubs point will be improved from good to great, and Crawford-Riffice will be right in the running for best 1-2 punch

last year they perhaps had two relative weaknesses: middle of the singles lineup (2-3) and a doubles point that wasn't quite good enough to reliably win against other top teams...despite those small issues i'd argue they were maybe just one doubles point away from beating texas in the semis (andrade-vale had match points in their dubs match, which likely would have swung the dubs point, since crawford-perez had match point when their match was rendered useless)

this year they're better at every single position with the possible exception of #3 singles - i'll be interested to see who out of andrade-ingildsen-vale-etc emerges as the third nationally elite singles player

and their schedule is less grueling this year, combine that with their depth and ability to rest a man or two frequently throughout the year and they'll have legs come NCAAs
 

Liam Grennon

Semi-Pro
very dark horse watch out for MS State by end of season, very young but very good.
I could see MS State doing well I guess but hard to think they would have more success this year then they did last, and they didn’t win last year...
 

JLyon

Hall of Fame
I could see MS State doing well I guess but hard to think they would have more success this year then they did last, and they didn’t win last year...
very true, they will have depth but not the Stud #1 that Borges was, will be interesting to follow.
 
very dark horse watch out for MS State by end of season, very young but very good.
Dark horse for the national title? I think that's wishful thinking. Miss St was a huge disappointment last year losing in the round of 16 at home, I thought with the talent they had returning they were a title contender. I think round of 16 would be a good year for them with all their losses. Borges was an automatic point.
 

atatu

Hall of Fame
*To clarify this is for outdoors*
Who are you taking this year? My top choice would probably be UNC or Texas.

UNC made a really deep run last year and add some freshmen who will most likely start. If Will Bloomberg can stay healthy he can compete with just about everyone. They dropped a great leader & player in Boyden, but hopefully they can recover with the talent they bring back. Ben at number two is also pretty scary. Not Ito. But very close.

Texas is defending a national title. They lost 3 players I belive, but had one of the strongest recruiting classes last year. They have the best 1 - 2 punch in college tennis and Ito is a monster.

Florida will be very strong, as will Ohio state, but I don't have them as my personal favorites.
Texas seems pretty young outside of Ito and Sigsgaard with 8 freshmen/sophmores in the mix. Huang will definitely help out and if Spizzirri comes in January that will be a huge boost. Look for their doubles lineup to be much better than last year.
 

tennisfan17

Semi-Pro
If brooksby comes to baylor, then I would have to give the nod to them. They have a solid mix of returners and talented incoming freshman/transfers. The biggest issue would probably be the bottom of their lineup and doubles. Knowing Boland though he already has some ideas on how to cover for that.
Another team to watch for would be the Gators. Arguably the team with the best all around singles line up last year. With so many returners this the team will have both the talent and experience.
As sad as it is to say, I don't think Wake will have that strong of a year.
 
I'm not following close enough to make that guess. With the exception of South Carolina you're list is pretty good. Who would replace So. Carolina? Florida State or another team?
Last I heard, Paul Jubb’s plan was still to come back in January and play in the spring. South Carolina had a very young team last year and their additions for this year outweigh their subtractions by a considerable amount. So, if Jubb does come back, they belong in this pole.
 
If brooksby comes to baylor, then I would have to give the nod to them. They have a solid mix of returners and talented incoming freshman/transfers. The biggest issue would probably be the bottom of their lineup and doubles. Knowing Boland though he already has some ideas on how to cover for that.
Another team to watch for would be the Gators. Arguably the team with the best all around singles line up last year. With so many returners this the team will have both the talent and experience.
As sad as it is to say, I don't think Wake will have that strong of a year.
Agreed, I worry about Wake this year. We lost a ton of firepower at the top of the lineup. However, Bresky knows how to get it done, so don't count them out until you see who is on the team in January.
 

tennisfan17

Semi-Pro
Agreed, I worry about Wake this year. We lost a ton of firepower at the top of the lineup. However, Bresky knows how to get it done, so don't count them out until you see who is on the team in January.
fair enough. Having Bar return is good, and i've seen Baadi play so he could be a good addition
 
Little bit off topic here, but what college player has the best one hander?
Depends on how it is being used: Botzer, Kovacevic, and Siggsgard are ones that come to mind, but they use it differently. Botzer chips it much more than the other two, but can come up with serious shotmaking when pressed. Kovacevic and Siggsgard are both more aggresive; Kovacevic seems to be more technically sound while Siggy appears to be all feel.
 

OldBear2

New User
I am picking the Baylor Bears to win it all this year. They will have the best player in the nation at the #1 spot, One of the best players (Soto) who will 90% of his matches in the #2 spot. Boitan is probably the best #3 player in the nation. Lah will be great at the #4 spot and Garcia, Finn Bass, Ryan Dickerson, Frantzen will be as good or better than any team at #5 and #6.
 

ClarkC

Hall of Fame
Waiting to hear about Brooksby and Nakashima before claiming that Baylor and Virginia are contenders, but not waiting to name Florida as the favorite anyway.
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
I am picking the Baylor Bears to win it all this year. They will have the best player in the nation at the #1 spot, One of the best players (Soto) who will 90% of his matches in the #2 spot. Boitan is probably the best #3 player in the nation. Lah will be great at the #4 spot and Garcia, Finn Bass, Ryan Dickerson, Frantzen will be as good or better than any team at #5 and #6.
Yeah all those guys you named were super tough competitors in the NCAA quarters in their most recent team match :)

Lah folded so fast at #5 against Andrade, I thought he was going to cry (but he held back the tears unlike his senior leader Bendeck who won approximately ten points in his final collegiate match a court away)

Soto got rocked in the face by a freshman, who has since made big strides and will rock him harder this year

I hope Baylor brings it harder than last year - I traveled to Orlando for that match and thought we must have played Prairie View A&M when it was over an hour later
 

tennisfan17

Semi-Pro
Waiting to hear about Brooksby and Nakashima before claiming that Baylor and Virginia are contenders, but not waiting to name Florida as the favorite anyway.
heard earlier that Brooksby is for sure coming to baylor! So that should be huge for them
 

tennisfan17

Semi-Pro
Lah folded so fast at #5 against Andrade, I thought he was going to cry (but he held back the tears unlike his senior leader Bendeck who won approximately ten points in his final collegiate match a court away)

Soto got rocked in the face by a freshman, who has since made big strides and will rock him harder this year

I hope Baylor brings it harder than last year - I traveled to Orlando for that match and thought we must have played Prairie View A&M when it was over an hour later
yeeeeeaah that was not a great match that day from Baylor admittedly
 

hornsupbulls

New User
I think USC and TCU have real chances to beat temas like UF and Baylor this year. TCU brought in great recruits this year and I feel like they are very underrated.
 

andfor

Legend
Last I heard, Paul Jubb’s plan was still to come back in January and play in the spring. South Carolina had a very young team last year and their additions for this year outweigh their subtractions by a considerable amount. So, if Jubb does come back, they belong in this pole.
Jubb has said he's coming back. He's had a pretty productive last couple of months. He's posted 3 Semifinals and won 1 ITF event. I'd expect him to be in full form day 1.
 
Jubb has said he's coming back. He's had a pretty productive last couple of months. He's posted 3 Semifinals and won 1 ITF event. I'd expect him to be in full form day 1.
do these guys actually attend classes? If so, what do they study, basket weaving?
 

andfor

Legend
do these guys actually attend classes? If so, what do they study, basket weaving?
Of 4 recent grads I know playing Pro their degrees range from Business, international business, marketing, sports management to chemistry. I’m sure that’s not good enough though.


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Liam Grennon

Semi-Pro
Of 4 recent grads I know playing Pro their degrees range from Business, international business, marketing, sports management to chemistry. I’m sure that’s not good enough though.


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Always tons of people eager to criticize players for appearing not to go to class, but many large university's have large portions of there class online, lectures are recorded, and of course I’m sure they get a certain leniency for being student athletes. Generally I feel that good tennis players also are pretty good students (socio economic reasons), plus the athletic department has tutors and stuff like that. UVA’s class a couple years ago had a bunch of biz majors and I heard an interview with JC where he talks about how he struggled his first semester with the course load of UVA’s biz school.
 

jrstrat

New User
heard earlier that Brooksby is for sure coming to baylor! So that should be huge for them
A couple Baylor insiders told me that they expect Brooksby to enroll in January as well although one told me that they will have a sigh of relief when he actually enrolls in classes. When is the last time a frosh ranked in the top 300 in the ATP rankings enrolled in college? I'm guessing it has been many years but it looks like Brooksby is going to enroll.
 

tennisfan17

Semi-Pro
A couple Baylor insiders told me that they expect Brooksby to enroll in January as well although one told me that they will have a sigh of relief when he actually enrolls in classes. When is the last time a frosh ranked in the top 300 in the ATP rankings enrolled in college? I'm guessing it has been many years but it looks like Brooksby is going to enroll.
In a recent interview I heard with Boland, it sounds like Brooksby has bought into the college tennis idea and atmosphere. How that will impact his development if he does for sure end up there I have no clue. However it will be huge for college tennis as a whole.
 

tennisfan17

Semi-Pro
Slightly off topic but anyone have any idea how Oregon is looking this year? I've always been a low key fan of the team but haven't kept up much with them this semester.
 
A couple Baylor insiders told me that they expect Brooksby to enroll in January as well although one told me that they will have a sigh of relief when he actually enrolls in classes. When is the last time a frosh ranked in the top 300 in the ATP rankings enrolled in college? I'm guessing it has been many years but it looks like Brooksby is going to enroll.
Probably Phillip King at Duke. I recall he was about 240 when he started. Incredibly successful off the court now
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
*To clarify this is for outdoors*
Who are you taking this year? My top choice would probably be UNC or Texas.

UNC made a really deep run last year and add some freshmen who will most likely start. If Will Bloomberg can stay healthy he can compete with just about everyone. They dropped a great leader & player in Boyden, but hopefully they can recover with the talent they bring back. Ben at number two is also pretty scary. Not Ito. But very close.

Texas is defending a national title. They lost 3 players I belive, but had one of the strongest recruiting classes last year. They have the best 1 - 2 punch in college tennis and Ito is a monster.

Florida will be very strong, as will Ohio state, but I don't have them as my personal favorites.
Stanford is clear favorite in 2020. No other team can match up from #1 to #6.
 

tennisfan17

Semi-Pro
Stanford is clear favorite in 2020. No other team can match up from #1 to #6.
Don't get me wrong I like Axel Geller a lot and he is def a dangerous player when on, but stanford lacks that 1-2 combination as well as that depth through the lineup. Even with the new guys on the team, it's hard for me to see how they could match up and compete with teams like UNC, Texas and even Florida.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Don't get me wrong I like Axel Geller a lot and he is def a dangerous player when on, but stanford lacks that 1-2 combination as well as that depth through the lineup. Even with the new guys on the team, it's hard for me to see how they could match up and compete with teams like UNC, Texas and even Florida.
1,2 punch ? Geller, Rotasaert, Sridhar. WOW. best 1-2-3 punch in NCAA. they could play davis cup even
 

mikej

Hall of Fame
Why do you say that? If he has sponsorship backing or the means I agree. If not, what would 1 semester hurt?
What does one semester accomplish? Nowhere towards a degree and decreases his opportunities to train full time / chase points on a weekly basis (the clock is ticking on those USOpen points falling away, strike while it’s hot)

Only benefits Boland and he knows it
 

andfor

Legend
What does one semester accomplish? Nowhere towards a degree and decreases his opportunities to train full time / chase points on a weekly basis (the clock is ticking on those USOpen points falling away, strike while it’s hot)

Only benefits Boland and he knows it
The kid gets a chance to see if college and college tennis is where he wants to spend his next 4 years. It's common for high level players to negotiate their schedule with the coach before signing and showing up. Boland's players often play pro events during the season so I can't see points being problem during that time.

It all depends on the player, his goals and desires. We don't know those so we'll see. I bet he shows up. Whatever he does in January I wish him the best.

Boland is no dummy. He knows how to recruit kids with pro asperations and how to cater to them. His players get regular individual workouts, daily racquet restringing, unlimited equipment and more. Treats them like pros.
 
The kid gets a chance to see if college and college tennis is where he wants to spend his next 4 years. It's common for high level players to negotiate their schedule with the coach before signing and showing up. Boland's players often play pro events during the season so I can't see points being problem during that time.

It all depends on the player, his goals and desires. We don't know those so we'll see. I bet he shows up. Whatever he does in January I wish him the best.

Boland is no dummy. He knows how to recruit kids with pro asperations and how to cater to them. His players get regular individual workouts, daily racquet restringing, unlimited equipment and more. Treats them like pros.
So college tennis is a scam then? If players are going to play pro events during the season, how are they going to find time to study?
 
No and the internet.
Really? I thought for every credit taken, one has to spend at least 3 (4 hours for most people) outside of the classroom to study, Therefore, a student who takes 15 credits in a semester will spend at least 15 hours in the classroom and another 60 hours outside of the classroom to study. That equal to 75 hours. How is it possible for these guys to play pro events during the school year and study at the same time?
 

andfor

Legend
Really? I thought for every credit taken, one has to spend at least 3 (4 hours for most people) outside of the classroom to study, Therefore, a student who takes 15 credits in a semester will spend at least 15 hours in the classroom and another 60 hours outside of the classroom to study. That equal to 75 hours. How is it possible for these guys to play pro events during the school year and study at the same time?
College tennis players participating in pro events has been going on for years. If it was against the rules then they wouldn’t do it.


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