2020 US Open - Official Thread for Women's Tennis

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Agreed, just saying that for some reason it’s been happening all tournament. Almost in every match I’ve watched. USO released a statement saying it’s still not allowed and they’ve issued a whopping total of 2 violations this tournament. (I have added the whopping in as sarcasm)

Good use of sarcasm.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

How do you rate her raw ballstriking ability?

Top level of course. This is ATG level she's showing, not just serving but the full package.

 

[NaomiKonjuhPotapova]

Again, ’Rona has changed things. There has been coaching all tourney.

@Soianka
Putintseva is warned on QF match due to talking with coaches a bit much (Than a short sentence).
I don't know about challenge thing.

 

[NaomiKonjuhPotapova]

The rule should be enforced always or not at all.

Tsitsipas is for sure talking with coach/daddy vs Borna.

 

[Soianka]

@Soianka
Putintseva is warned on QF match due to talking with coaches a bit much (Than a short sentence).
I don't know about challenge thing.

I don't think the rule has changed regarding coaching at slams because of the virus.

I just think they should either enforce the rule in all cases or do away with it.

 

[skyline]

Brady has shown so much heart. Go, Jenn!

 

[Aussie Darcy]

Serve it out

 

[EzekielTennis]

If Serena and Osaka are in the finals, can we please have Carlos Ramos in the chair? It wouldn’t be a rematch without him.

 

[spystud]

This is the first Slam since the virus. It is CLEAR to any viewer they are allowing it on the coach’s end, I really don’t know what else to say. You physically saw it with your own eyes.

 

[Mark-Touch]

I love those insane, Seles-like angles that Osaka can create for winners!

 

[Aussie Darcy]

If Serena and Osaka are in the finals, can we please have Carlos Ramos in the chair? It wouldn’t be a rematch without him.

I just laughed loudly at work, I hope you’re happy

 

[Soianka]

Naomi has hit a lot of wild forehands on the run this match

 

[Aussie Darcy]

This is the first Slam since the virus. It is CLEAR to any viewer they are allowing it on the coach’s end, I really don’t know what else to say. You physically saw it with your own eyes.

Very true. It’s just one of those rules they don’t bother to enforce.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

That shot from Osaka, so good. 15-15.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Wow, Osaka is nervous. First serve no more, even a double fault.

 

[Soianka]

This is the first Slam since the virus. It is CLEAR to any viewer they are allowing it on the coach’s end, I really don’t know what else to say. You physically saw it with your own eyes.

The point is the rule is still in effect and some players are still being dinged for it. See a post with statement from USTA above about 2 infractions given.

Either everyone should be penalized for breaking the rule or no one should. Not hard to understand.

 

[NaomiKonjuhPotapova]

Is it nerve? She missed the toss since Covid, I don't recall she's doing this much before.

 

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That middle of the baseline off-BH what a shot from Naomi.

 

[Soianka]

Very true. It’s just one of those rules they don’t bother to enforce.

Until they bother to enforce it selectively and potentially effect the outcome of a match.

 

[Aussie Darcy]

And she’s done it!
Naomi Osaka is back in a US Open final.

Beats Brady 7-6 3-6 6-3

 

[James P]

That's all she wrote

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Osaka wins 7-6(1) 3-6 6-3. Well done. Good match, good fight. Brady is promising if she can keep anything like this up.

 

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It didn't quite turn into the thriller is could have, but a really good and enjoyable match and fight from both players. GG Osaka. Hope this is the beginning of far more sustained success for Brady.

 

[Soianka]

I don't it's going to be a Brady-Osaka rivalry just because Brady has had a good tournament.

 

[spystud]

The point is the rule is still in effect and some players are still being dinged for it. See a post with statement from USTA above about 2 infractions given.

Either everyone should be penalized for breaking the rule or no one should. Not hard to understand.

Here you go buddy, knock yourself out since you clearly want to focus on it.

Listen Closely, and You Will Hear Coaching During U.S. Open Matches (Published 2020)

When an umpire called out Serena Williams over coaching in the 2018 U.S. Open final, it erupted into a scene. This year, with no fans in the seats, there is chatter galore between coaches and players, even though it breaks the rules.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Jokervich]

Well done to Osaka. Now for the screaming match next.

 

[Fed881981]

Good match, but not many points to remember. Very quiet two hours.

 

[Mark-Touch]

Osaka's a strange player. She never seems to exude confidence when she's playing.
On the contrary, she often looks worried.

 

[DariusD]

Osaka was nervous serving it out because I don't think she got a first serve in on that last game until the final point. Jen really fought out there until the end.

 

[THUNDERVOLLEY]

As I said, Osaka means business. She has a serious mind on and off court, and is ready to fight for what she wants.

 

[Soianka]

Here you go buddy, knock yourself out since you clearly want to focus on it.

Listen Closely, and You Will Hear Coaching During U.S. Open Matches (Published 2020)

When an umpire called out Serena Williams over coaching in the 2018 U.S. Open final, it erupted into a scene. This year, with no fans in the seats, there is chatter galore between coaches and players, even though it breaks the rules.

www.nytimes.com

Thanks for the article "buddy," which reinforces the very simple point I've been making.

The rule has not been rescinded. They just haven't been enforcing it much this tournament (because there are no officials on outside courts) and we have been hearing coaching more because it's not being drowned out by a loud crowd.

And yet, 2 players have been punished for that.

Like I said several times, either do away with the rule all together or enforce on everyone, every time. Period.

Soeren Friemel, the tournament referee, said the tournament had not changed its interpretation of the rule. Umpires have issued two coaching violations so far this tournament, but they allow communication that falls into the under “encouragement” in any language.

So they are selectively enforcing the rules, which is a problem.

 

[TennisCJC]

Osaka vs Brady was one of the better matches I've seen in years. High quality of play. Not many breaks. Great shot making by both players. And, they seem to be nice people too. I liked that match.

 

[Slowtwitcher]

7 matches, 7 names. Well done, Naomi

 

[Ash Tennis]

Imagine putting Kenin.

 

[Ruark]

Oh, Lord. We're going to have an Osaka - Williams US Open Final.....

 

[skyline]

More nerves there at the end than I expected but outcome never in doubt.

Now there’s a match spectators would not have wasted money on had tickets been available!

Not sure I have the stomach for the next match.

 

[Soianka]

As I said, Osaka means business. She has a serious mind on and off court, and is ready to fight for what she wants.

Yes, I believe this is her tournament.

I think only Serena may be able to beat her because Serena has produced miracles before (AUS 2007).

 

[Deleted member 770618]

I would be happy with her facing either Serena or Vika in the finals. If Serena then rematch of 2018, else if Vika then they finally settle Cincy Open + USO for all the marbles.

 

[NaomiKonjuhPotapova]

It didn't quite turn into the thriller is could have, but a really good and enjoyable match and fight from both players. GG Osaka. Hope this is the beginning of far more sustained success for Brady.

Nice to see you back!

 

[Ash Tennis]

Oh, Lord. We're going to have an Osaka - Williams US Open Final.....

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee can’t wait.

 

[spystud]

The rule has not been rescinded. They just haven't been enforcing it much this tournament.

With ‘Rona forcing coaches to each end, they’ve relaxed the rules to allow it when their players are on their end.

Never said rescinded, this was my very first reply. Enjoy yelling at the clouds, the rest of us aren’t worried about it.

 

[AnOctorokForDinner]

Yes, I believe this is her tournament.

I think only Serena may be able to beat her because Serena has produced miracles before (AUS 2007).

Silly to compare prime fit SW with the old behemoth she is now.

 

[Ash Tennis]

I would be happy with her facing either Serena or Vika in the finals. If Serena then rematch of 2018, else if Vika then they finally settle Cincy Open + USO for all the marbles.

Imagine vika wins.

 

[Slowtwitcher]

I would be happy with her facing either Serena or Vika in the finals. If Serena then rematch of 2018, else if Vika then they finally settle Cincy Open + USO for all the marbles.

Carlos Ramos is free on Saturday!

 

[Tanya]

Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee can’t wait.

I think some of you may be writing Vika off a bit early... she is clearly in much better form than Serena atm. Not saying she'll win, but she has every chance to

 

[skyline]

Yes, I believe this is her tournament.

I think only Serena may be able to beat her because Serena has produced miracles before (AUS 2007).

Serena was young then. And full of spite for the world (spiteful Serena is the best Serena).

This Serena is much older and commands respect from virtually all, at least here in the States. Not that respect is a bad thing or undeserved by any stretch, but I’ve always believed she does her best miracles when slighted....

 

[spystud]

Serena/Vika thread for anyone that hasn’t seen it.

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/us-open-2020-1-2-final-serena-williams-3-vs-victoria-azarenka.678511/

 

[Ash Tennis]

I think some of you may be writing Vika off a bit early... she is clearly in much better form than Serena atm. Not saying she'll win, but she has every chance to

I’m really hoping Vika wins I hate Serena. I just want Osaka to beat Serena again, but if Vika cuts her off early that’s super fine with me.

 

[Tanya]

I’m really hoping Vika wins I hate Serena. I just want Osaka to beat Serena again, but if Vika cuts her off early that’s super fine with me.

fair enough

 

[Soianka]

Never said rescinded, this was my very first reply. Enjoy yelling at the clouds, the rest of us aren’t worried about it.

they haven't rescinded or relaxed the rules

maybe you should read the article that you posted

Soeren Friemel, the tournament referee, said the tournament had not changed its interpretation of the rule.

The reason we see it happening more is because there is no crowd drowning out the coaches' words and we can hear them.

And because there are not as many officials on the outer courts with the electronic line calling.

But the point I made 700 posts ago remains the same -- the rule is being SELECTIVELY enforced as it always has been, which has always been unfair and makes it seem like certain players are targeted by certain umpires.

You were wrong. It's okay to admit it and move on with your life now.