NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
Buzarnescu is so bad. Is Hancu okay?
2020 US Open - Official Thread for Women's Tennis
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
Where are the 'Serena is fat' comments on Clijster?
James P
G.O.A.T.
She doesn't look fit, no.
jm1980
Talk Tennis Guru
Clijsters is unfit
beltsman
G.O.A.T.
Clijsters and S. Williams are both unfit. Happy?
How refreshing is it though to watch Clijsters in 2020. Who would have thought? It is amazing watching her crushing the ball against this current worthless gen!
Nostradamus
Bionic Poster
OMG... 21st seed Alexandrova just lost the 1st set to soccer mom with 3 kids who is overweight. lol
elkwood
Hall of Fame
I really like Leylah Fernandez!! Been following her for a bit. She got a really great game. I see her busting into the top 50 soon
Josh Lyman
Hall of Fame
Clijsters is a test of just how important athleticism is to the WTA.
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NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
She beat Kenin on WTT as well. But only a set match and exho-ish.
This Ova current filler generation are so bad!
*Kuzmova, Alexandrova, Kudermetova, etc.
Josh Lyman
Hall of Fame
Soccer mom Clijsters is an inspiration. Henin and Li Na need to come back too and school these kids.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Clijsters is fit! Now are you unhappy? 
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
Fit queen struggling against someone who's never in the top 40.
Edit: This meant Sakkari.
Edit: This meant Sakkari.
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Tanya
Hall of Fame
Henin already tried that once, and embarrassed herself... I'd gladly welcome back Li though
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
If Clijsters wins the 3rd, she is a true contender for another U.S. Open single’s title!
Tanya
Hall of Fame
Neither one is particularly fit, however Clijsters movement looks better than Williams
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
Just tuning in. Clijsters is a bit bigger than I thought - looks like the mom she is; she has that identifable "mom" weight gain. Not that all mothers have to go through this, but it's common. That said, she doesn't look like she's moving horribly, though obviously nothing like in her prime.
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
Just body type, Clijster is never a skinny queen to begin with.
My class buddy has 3 kids and almost no change.
Tanya
Hall of Fame
yea Kimmie was never Hantuchova-esque... but she does look quite strongs, esp those legs!
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
No, she's never been "skinny", she's always been "thick" - but she was much leaner. Shape is generally the same, but she looks noticeably different; composition is different. Serena is naturally thick too and was once as lean as a sprinter. But, her body composition changed too, sometimes a little bit, sometimes drastically.
Harry_Wild
G.O.A.T.
Alexandrova take it 3-6, 5-7, 6-1! Clijster is hurt?
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
What is wrong with Pliskova!
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
VERY unusual - even for the men. There's nearly always a first-round upset among the top 24 seed on both sides.
flyingboris
Legend
That's incredible!! Especially in this insane "anything could happen" situation, with lack of match practice all around. Maybe the lower ranked players' training has been affected more severely by Covid? Either way, impressive stat!
spystud
Talk Tennis Guru
Day 3 OoP with some doubles mixed in.
You just made one
Kim doesnt parade around pretending she is a super model, so you have to be mean to make the first claim on her appearence.
TennisLBC
Professional
Yeah! I hear on this board that Serena is too uppity.You just made one
Kim doesnt parade around pretending she is a super model, so you have to be mean to make the first claim on her appearence.
NaomiKonjuhPotapova
G.O.A.T.
You just made one
Kim doesnt parade around pretending she is a super model, so you have to be mean to make the first claim on her appearence.
Main point was maybe we could stop with that kinda comment but I even get dragged along! welp!
I'm pretty much agree with @bluetrain4
Anyway, didn't watch complete matches, does Kim level dropped on 2nd and 3rd? The question all along is would she be able to sustain during long and consecutive matches.
The strike quality will never be gone, as does with all the other hall of famers.
Two wrongs never make a right, all you do is appear to choose a side
Do you also smell the ice on a hot day?
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Pliskova v Garcia is going to be a real interesting one.
Karolina might be the top seed but she's not the favourite for the title. She hasn't gone past the 4R at a slam in her last 4 attempts. She started the year well defending her Brisbane title but then lost in the 3R of the Aus Open to Pavs, then a QF loss in Dubai to Rybakina, 3R in Doha to Jabeur. Upon tennis resumption she lost her opening match to Kudermetova. She started well in her 1R but Garcia is a former top 5 player who's won the same amount of Premier 5/Mandatory titles as Pliskova(!). Their H2H is tied at 3-3 with their last match being the 2018 Tianjin final which Caroline won.
Karolina might be the top seed but she's not the favourite for the title. She hasn't gone past the 4R at a slam in her last 4 attempts. She started the year well defending her Brisbane title but then lost in the 3R of the Aus Open to Pavs, then a QF loss in Dubai to Rybakina, 3R in Doha to Jabeur. Upon tennis resumption she lost her opening match to Kudermetova. She started well in her 1R but Garcia is a former top 5 player who's won the same amount of Premier 5/Mandatory titles as Pliskova(!). Their H2H is tied at 3-3 with their last match being the 2018 Tianjin final which Caroline won.
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
Betting odds for who'll win the title are wild:
Osaka $6 (lost a set in the 1R)
Serena $6 (barely winning matches at this point)
Pliskova $11 (lost in her first match in Cincy/NY)
Kvitova $13 (also lost in her first match in Cincy)
Keys $17 (also lost in her first match in Cincy and was the defending champ)
Muguruza $17 (had been playing very well earlier in the year)
Kenin $19 (also lost in his her first match in Cincy but thought she'd be higher
Konta $19 (just cause she made the SF in Cincy with an easy draw over Flipkens, Zvonareva and Sakkari?)
Mertens $21 (same thing as Konta, SF in Cincy with an easy draw over Peterson, Mladenovic, Kudermetova and Pegula)
Rybakina $21 (has the epic start to the year but hasn't done much in the last 2 tournaments)
Azarenka $23 (I mean I know she's unseeded and playing Sabalenka but don't think she should be this low)
Sabalenka $23 (Ditto for above)
Kontaveit $26 (Should be higher, she's 8-2 since tournaments resumed and has a good draw)
Brady $29 (because she won Lexington? No top 30 wins? She lost to Pegula in straights last week)
Anisimova $34 (don't quite get this one either, she also lost to Pegula in straights last week)
Kerber $34 (should be way higher. former #1 with 3 slams including the USO just 4 years ago? come on)
No Sakkari, Sevastova, Vondrousova, Martic, Jabeur, Riske?
Sakkari beat Serena last week
Sevastova made the QF here in 2016 and 2017 and the SF in 2018. She's got Osaka in the 3R but has defeated her twice and won sets in 4 of the 5 matches)
Vondrousova the RG finalist last year and has is the section of the draw that is wide open
Martic? The top seed in her quarter of the draw that's wide open. I mean she's just got to get through Bondarenko, Mladenovic and Vondrousova/Sasnovich/Poots to make the QF)
Jabeur has been on a roll this year.
Riske can not be underestimated.
Just think the odds are very skewed to recent results only.
Osaka $6 (lost a set in the 1R)
Serena $6 (barely winning matches at this point)
Pliskova $11 (lost in her first match in Cincy/NY)
Kvitova $13 (also lost in her first match in Cincy)
Keys $17 (also lost in her first match in Cincy and was the defending champ)
Muguruza $17 (had been playing very well earlier in the year)
Kenin $19 (also lost in his her first match in Cincy but thought she'd be higher
Konta $19 (just cause she made the SF in Cincy with an easy draw over Flipkens, Zvonareva and Sakkari?)
Mertens $21 (same thing as Konta, SF in Cincy with an easy draw over Peterson, Mladenovic, Kudermetova and Pegula)
Rybakina $21 (has the epic start to the year but hasn't done much in the last 2 tournaments)
Azarenka $23 (I mean I know she's unseeded and playing Sabalenka but don't think she should be this low)
Sabalenka $23 (Ditto for above)
Kontaveit $26 (Should be higher, she's 8-2 since tournaments resumed and has a good draw)
Brady $29 (because she won Lexington? No top 30 wins? She lost to Pegula in straights last week)
Anisimova $34 (don't quite get this one either, she also lost to Pegula in straights last week)
Kerber $34 (should be way higher. former #1 with 3 slams including the USO just 4 years ago? come on)
No Sakkari, Sevastova, Vondrousova, Martic, Jabeur, Riske?
Sakkari beat Serena last week
Sevastova made the QF here in 2016 and 2017 and the SF in 2018. She's got Osaka in the 3R but has defeated her twice and won sets in 4 of the 5 matches)
Vondrousova the RG finalist last year and has is the section of the draw that is wide open
Martic? The top seed in her quarter of the draw that's wide open. I mean she's just got to get through Bondarenko, Mladenovic and Vondrousova/Sasnovich/Poots to make the QF)
Jabeur has been on a roll this year.
Riske can not be underestimated.
Just think the odds are very skewed to recent results only.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
Oh, yes. they operate under the same vile reasons seen in over a decade of Talk Tennis Warehouse threads, including this one.
THUNDERVOLLEY
G.O.A.T.
..and about Serena so far..
D-Lite
Hall of Fame
I was going to list my top 5 favourites but once again it's so wild on the WTA side of things - so what if someone played well in January or last week? A bunch of the ladies rock up to a major and suddenly turn it up like they haven't in 3 years.
My top 5 in NO ORDER are: Muguruza, Azarenka, Kvitova, Osaka, Serena
For me, Konta, Kontaveit (lacks experience though), and Sabalenka could do something if they turn up top form. I feel like Kerber, Pliskova and Kenin just aren't seeming a solid bet just now. Players like Kontaveit, Mertens etc can play solid but can they win 7 matches? Even if the draw opened up for them I wouldn't be sure.
Now here's another one - Rybakina - started 2020 solidly. I'd love to see her win the title but also I dislike a player suddenly winning a slam without at least 3 other titles from smaller tournaments as it's just such a huge step up in pressure and then handling that expectation at the next major!
Aussie Darcy
Bionic Poster
We're making a similar point. I say a former slam champ is more likely to turn up at a slam than somebody like Jen Brady. That's why I think someone like Kerber or Kenin or Garbie has a better shot than Sabalenka or Rybakina. We know they can win 7 matches in a row.
As for my top 5:
Muguruza, Osaka, Kvitova, Kenin and Kerber and then Pliskova, Vika and Serena not far behind.
In saying that, of the last 12 slams, we've had 8 new slam champions so there's a high chance it'll be a new slam champ.
D-Lite
Hall of Fame
This is Mugu and Kerber's first tournament back - I'd also note that and probably put it against them. They'll be fresh but I reckon match play and wins from the few weeks before will play into the conscience of Azarenka etc, even Osaka - I feel she won enough last week alone to not really need to play that final even though she picked up a niggle.
Also we have seen it a fair few times where players have won their first slam out of nowhere the past few years. I do worry we could have another player like Ostapenko, as good as she is on her day, just vanish and not do a whole long for 3+ years...
bluetrain4
G.O.A.T.
I mean, it's nice she's back, and she did hit fairly well, but the "worthless gen" player ended up beating her 6-1 in the third. Clijsters wasn't that amazing.
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