2020 Wilson Ultra

Yeah sounds like it’s only available from Wilson directly and they won’t get you matching sets (and their spec tolerances are infuriating). Wilson why so cruel?
Honestly these spec tolerances are so bad that there’s no guarantee that two of the same model will even have the same feel. It was bad enough that every update to a frame has become a justification to cut costs, but now you can order two racquets that won’t have the same feel even if you match the specs. BLX, CounterVail, FreeFlex... here’s a more muted feel so you won’t notice the cheaper layup we’ve gone to this time. At they still make a good first version of a new line/racquet to get people to switch.




Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
 

Francoss

New User
So today I got to play with the Wilson Ultra v3.0 100 and 100L. Both strung (sadly) with Luxilon Smart 1,25 mm 20/19 kg. First of all, the design and shiny black/silver/blue colors looks really cheap to me. Now to the play test. Both rackets have really muted feel, reminds me of Countervail. The 100 300g version feels way heavier than other rackets in this weight range. Also the beefier frame is very slow in swings and makes volleys really hard to hit when in defense. I found the 100L 280 g version way easier to play and control. Both rackets have 320 mm balance, which I found kind of odd if you consider the 20 g difference in weight. From the baseline both rackets feels solid, with unexpected spin potential, but lacks feel and control of other rackets with thinner frame. This 3.0 version is quite similar to Clash rackets, which are not suitable for performance play. For me, the Ultra series has always been the most unpleasant of all Wilson series last years and this version is very similar. I can hit hard, strong, but I don't have the feel, control and precision I need. My racket of choice these days is Head Speed Pro, Babolat Pure Strike 98 3rd gen and Tecnifibre TF 40 305. Sadly, the Luxilon Smart string made my testing quite difficult and I'm going to strung these rackets with Tecnifibre Black Code 1,28 mm next time I play them.
I just read your post. Question, Between the 100 and 100L you mentioned the 100 is one hair clunkier, do you perceive any differences in stiffness. Thanks. The other thing is the 100 is not available in USA where are you playing?
 

Geoff

Hall of Fame
I just read your post. Question, Between the 100 and 100L you mentioned the 100 is one hair clunkier, do you perceive any differences in stiffness. Thanks. The other thing is the 100 is not available in USA where are you playing?
All of the Ultras are available in the US 108, 100, 100L and 100UL are all available in the US. The Ultra Pro (formerly Ultra Tour) is only available through Wilson.com as has been discussed in other posts and threads. I have all of them (5 new Ultra models) at my house right now (stringing for the Wilson rep).
 

avocadoz

Professional
I have a feeling the Ultra line will go the way of the Burn and be obsolete soon. Wilson just couldn’t get any traction in sales. They couldn’t be bothered with the update by throwing in some ugly paintjob and call it a day. A friend of mine plays with the latest Ultra 100 and it’s too stiff and powerful. The frame is so thick that it looks like an oversized racquet.
 

Francoss

New User
I have a feeling the Ultra line will go the way of the Burn and be obsolete soon. Wilson just couldn’t get any traction in sales. They couldn’t be bothered with the update by throwing in some ugly paintjob and call it a day. A friend of mine plays with the latest Ultra 100 and it’s too stiff and powerful. The frame is so thick that it looks like an oversized racquet.
I apologize, I don’t know what came to my head. I’m doing research on the blade 100 v7 only available in Japan. I got my head scrambled. Too much surfing online!
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
All of the Ultras are available in the US 108, 100, 100L and 100UL are all available in the US. The Ultra Pro (formerly Ultra Tour) is only available through Wilson.com as has been discussed in other posts and threads. I have all of them (5 new Ultra models) at my house right now (stringing for the Wilson rep).
I googled and discovered that the Ultra Pro is also available by TW Australia and some shops from Canada and Brasil.
 
  • Like
Reactions: DJ-

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Correct, seen the ultra pro in person at Tennis Only
On the website photos, it says Ultra Tour on the side of the racquet. Is that just a mistake on the photos or does the racquet still have Ultra Tour printed on the side even though they're calling it Ultra Pro?

How does it look in person?
 

vodny_cz

New User
I just read your post. Question, Between the 100 and 100L you mentioned the 100 is one hair clunkier, do you perceive any differences in stiffness. Thanks. The other thing is the 100 is not available in USA where are you playing?
There is a huge difference in stiffness between 100 and 100L and it's not only on paper, but in real life too, you can feel it almost instantly. So the 100 stiffness rating RA is 73, which is even stiffer than Babolat Pure Drive and we all know, that Pure Drive's are really stiff rackets. On the other hand, the 100L has RA 68, which is perfectly ok for a modern racket. I feel that the biggest difference although it's the same number in this parameter, is the balance. Both rackets have balance 320 mm unstrung, which is really odd. Usually lighter rackets under 295 g have balance around 330-335 mm. Both of these rackets are balance towards the hand and thats why the 100L is even much more easy to control than the heavier racket. I'm 36, playing tennis since 4 years and I feel that the tie where heavy rackets ruled the world is over. Tennis is much more physically demanding than was ever before, it's faster, more brutal and that's why I prefer lighter rackets to sustain all the long rallies and save energy. Plus there is the benefit of tuning a lighter racket to your favourite settings. Just buy a couple of lead tapes of 2 g and you can turn your 280 g 100L Ultra to a perfect 298 g weapon. Moreover if you play with the strings and tension, you can create great power or precision.
 

vodny_cz

New User
I have a feeling the Ultra line will go the way of the Burn and be obsolete soon. Wilson just couldn’t get any traction in sales. They couldn’t be bothered with the update by throwing in some ugly paintjob and call it a day. A friend of mine plays with the latest Ultra 100 and it’s too stiff and powerful. The frame is so thick that it looks like an oversized racquet.
That's so true. The frame looks so bulky with the new integrated Power Weighting System (PWS). It's a shame they dropped the original PWS (Pro Staff) in favour of new design, which I found really cheap.
 

A_Instead

Legend
I just got a Ultra 100 v3...and yes. The high gloss and color scheme isnt quite in style at the moment...and yes it's fat...
But it doesn't feel as stiff as it is.. doesn't feel bulky as it is.. the sweet spot is extremely big and is soft.. it is a very easy to play with racket.... I have no control issues..or wrist issues..it's a different frame compared to most.. I actually like it..why...reminds me of the
1s gen juice... But improved...
 

Crocodile

Legend
Haven’t heard much about the new Ultra Pro except that not all retailers are getting them. While I haven’t studied things in detail I believe the new one has bumped the SW up to 324 whereas the previous UT was meant to be 319. In any case in reality the previous version was like a box of chocolates in terms of its SW and static weight. I hope Wilson have improved their spec consistency with the new model.
 

diddyac

Rookie
On the website photos, it says Ultra Tour on the side of the racquet. Is that just a mistake on the photos or does the racquet still have Ultra Tour printed on the side even though they're calling it Ultra Pro?

How does it look in person?
I think it looks better than the previous version

I'm about to demo one tomorrow, but I've already played with a weighted up one with natural gut, and it was super nice

But might of been the natural gut...so that's why i gotta demo haha
 

Pitti

Rookie
I have two questions regarding the new "Ultra Pro v 3.0" vs. the old "Ultra Tour v 2.0".

1. Are they exactly the same racquet? Apparently, and by reading the specs, they seem to be.
2. Is the paint quality in the v 3.0 better than the Ultra Tour one? The only thing I don't like of that racquet is how easily the paint chips and comes off...

I own an Ultra Tour, which I've been using for a couple of years. It's great. Really comfortable, to the point I'd like to get a new one. But I don't know if I should go for an Ultra Tour v 2.0 (it's difficult to find it at an L3 grip) or if it's worth going for the v 3.0...
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
As far as I know they are exactly the same so I would take the risk and purchase the Ultra Pro V3 if you love the UT.

Concerning the paint quality I can't tell if the v3 one has been improved.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Pitti

Rookie
As far as I know they are exactly the same so I would take the risk and purchase the Ultra Pro V3 if you love the UT.

Concerning the paint quality I can't tell if the v3 one has been improved.
Thank you. I know I like this racquet. I'm always playing a bit with lead placement on it (I have yet to find my perfect 'sweetspot'), but it's very comfortable for the arm, and great for an all court player. I'm just an average club player, but since I broke my strings during a match and had to play with a very old six one 95 team that wasn't in good condition and ended up giving me wrist pain and making me lose my match, I want a new spare racquet. Ideally, the same model. But since I have some 'off days' (migraines suck!) I'm doubting if I should instead carry a more powerful and 'easy' spare racquet or not. I'm just a swamp of doubts in this moment.
 
Last edited by a moderator:

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
As far as I know they are exactly the same so I would take the risk and purchase the Ultra Pro V3 if you love the UT.


Concerning the paint quality I can't tell if the v3 one has been improved.
I picked up a v2 UT for pretty cheap. Almost new condition and on specs (if you can believe that). Should have it by the end of the week. Just need to see what the fuss is all about.
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • Like
Reactions: Gee

Pitti

Rookie
I picked up a v2 UT for pretty cheap. Almost new condition and on specs (if you can believe that). Should have it by the end of the week. Just need to see what the fuss is all about.
I don't exactly know why, but I find this racquet to be really comfortable. Slice backhand is a joy to hit. It's just a bit underpowered and has the sweetspot a bit on the lower zone of the stringbed. But it's a nice racquet.
 

diddyac

Rookie
I don't exactly know why, but I find this racquet to be really comfortable. Slice backhand is a joy to hit. It's just a bit underpowered and has the sweetspot a bit on the lower zone of the stringbed. But it's a nice racquet.
Do your Ultra Tour v2s have foam in the handle? i used to have one but gave it up a while ago, probably didnt like the string setup, but i just bought the v3
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
I don't exactly know why, but I find this racquet to be really comfortable. Slice backhand is a joy to hit. It's just a bit underpowered and has the sweetspot a bit on the lower zone of the stringbed. But it's a nice racquet.
I guess you're correct. Lead at 12 and/or at 10 and 2 will be a good option with the UT.
 

Gee

Hall of Fame
I picked up a v2 UT for pretty cheap. Almost new condition and on specs (if you can believe that). Should have it by the end of the week. Just need to see what the fuss is all about.
Curious about your experience with the UT. Especially compared to the TC95 18x20.
 

Pitti

Rookie
Do your Ultra Tour v2s have foam in the handle? i used to have one but gave it up a while ago, probably didnt like the string setup, but i just bought the v3
I'm not completely sure. It seems to have some 'yellowish' foam around two centered "cores" of silicone...
 

Pneumated1

Hall of Fame
I don't exactly know why, but I find this racquet to be really comfortable. Slice backhand is a joy to hit. It's just a bit underpowered and has the sweetspot a bit on the lower zone of the stringbed. But it's a nice racquet.
I'm a little concerned about the 'underpowered' aspect, but I tend to hit lower on the stringbed, so that will work for me. I'm gonna string it with gut/poly pretty low and hit it stock at least once.

Curious about your experience with the UT. Especially compared to the TC95 18x20.
I'm interested in hitting a box beam again and will probably appreciate the slightly bigger head size. If only the Angell was a TC98, I wouldn't be searching. But will let you know.
 

GR190

New User
Do your Ultra Tour v2s have foam in the handle? i used to have one but gave it up a while ago, probably didnt like the string setup, but i just bought the v3
Every one of my v2.0s has foam in the handle. Am positive as I’ve carved some foam out of each to add some TW tungsten putty (wrapped in Saran Wrap to keep from becoming a gooey mess on hot days - made that mistake on a prior frame). I also add lead tape under the bumper guard and have occasionally checked and seen foam in the hoop too, so presume it’s throughout.
Anything’s possible but I’ve yet to see one with silicone in the handle.
 

TforTommy

Semi-Pro
Anyone using the 100 as their main stick? Was using the pure drive for a while and just worked really well for me. Used the ezone green 305 and just having a hard time to gel with it. Previously for the last 2 years used the 6.1 95 before switching to the pure drive.

Would this be a good option? And is it really as stiff as they say?
 

A_Instead

Legend
I do..and I had the pure drive in the mix...I like the Ultra 100 over the pure drive hands down..
My wrist and hand didn't agree with the pure Drive. No issues with Ultra 100..
 

TforTommy

Semi-Pro
I do..and I had the pure drive in the mix...I like the Ultra 100 over the pure drive hands down..
My wrist and hand didn't agree with the pure Drive. No issues with Ultra 100..
Ever have any issue with power etc? And have you added any lead tape?

bought a set of ezone 98 2020 but might return them for the 100s. Yonex frames are great and maybe bc i havent given it enough time but just something about the frame being so thin and the headshape of yonex is just taking a while to find my rhythm
 

diddyac

Rookie
One of mine has silicone in half of handle.
Yeah my v3 i can just see foam , but don't want to dig into it

As far as I know they are exactly the same so I would take the risk and purchase the Ultra Pro V3 if you love the UT.


Concerning the paint quality I can't tell if the v3 one has been improved.
As for paint quality, i think in general the whole thing looks much nicer, the texture doesn't seem to change at 3 & 9 as i run my fingers through it, only the colour itself. It looks like gloss the whole way through, whereas from what i remember the Ultra Tour v2 has that tracky plastic at 3&9 which made it look cheap after it passed the lower half of the racquet

From what i could tell, even the 100 had gloss finish on it aswell, at least on the lower part, when i was looking at them they all shined so nicely :laughing:
 
Last edited by a moderator:
  • Like
Reactions: Gee

GR190

New User
One of mine has silicone in half of handle.
As I said, anything’s possible (with Wilson QC) but none of the 10 I’ve customized had any. Still have 5 new ones to do eventually. Maybe one of those does.
As for paint I’ve read the later ones in the v2.0 production run are more durable than the early ones. Certainly don’t baby mine and they’re holding up pretty well. At least before I stopped playing in late February. No chunks out of the teal sides, just normal (for me) scrapes higher on the hoops than the teal.
Were yours from early or late in the PJ? All of mine were purchased towards the end of the run.
 

A_Instead

Legend
Not mods..I have 2 with identical specs...
With overgrip and dampener...327 grams..
Rpm blast..45 lbs... It's killer..
 

kingadam1985

New User
Is the Ultra Pro bumper and grommet black? Does anybody know the stock wrg number of the bumper?
Wilson.com answered this: said:
We do not sell these parts individually online, nor do we stock them in our warehouses. However, our retail partners may have the item you’re looking for.
If the racquet is wilson.com exclusive why do have their retail partners have them i don't get it.
It would be great to get some black instead of the ultra tour's blue for my h19s.
 
Is the Ultra Pro bumper and grommet black? Does anybody know the stock wrg number of the bumper?

If the racquet is wilson.com exclusive why do have their retail partners have them i don't get it.
It would be great to get some black instead of the ultra tour's blue for my h19s.
Because F*** you, pitiful customer.
Best regards,
Wilson
 

smithie

Rookie
As I said, anything’s possible (with Wilson QC) but none of the 10 I’ve customized had any. Still have 5 new ones to do eventually. Maybe one of those does.
As for paint I’ve read the later ones in the v2.0 production run are more durable than the early ones. Certainly don’t baby mine and they’re holding up pretty well. At least before I stopped playing in late February. No chunks out of the teal sides, just normal (for me) scrapes higher on the hoops than the teal.
Were yours from early or late in the PJ? All of mine were purchased towards the end of the run.

Of my three Ultra Tours, two have silicone in one channel and one has it in both. Interestingly my Ultra Pro (closest racket) has none. The Ultra Tour thread has many examples of rackets with and without silicone and it has been assumed that it’s a way for Wilson to meet their QC limits.
 

ommyskillz

New User
Hi, Im a begginer, fairly strong on the muscle side, technique still not that good, what tension and what kind of strings do you suggest me to string ultra 100, taking in consideration its stiffnes and power and my still not that great control of the play. Tyvm
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame

Of my three Ultra Tours, two have silicone in one channel and one has it in both. Interestingly my Ultra Pro (closest racket) has none. The Ultra Tour thread has many examples of rackets with and without silicone and it has been assumed that it’s a way for Wilson to meet their QC limits.
What is also interesting is that some UPs (at least with the 16x19, if not both) have the square graphite pin in the handle and some have a more angled octagon shape.
 
Top