2021 Indian Wells R3: Alexander Zverev [3] vs Andy Murray [WC]

Who wins?


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Jokervich

Hall of Fame
Interesting match. Murray beat Mannarino in 2 and then Alcaraz in 3. Zverev also in great form, only losing 1 match since Wimbledon and that was to Djokovic in 5 sets. H2H is 3-0 in favor of Murray. 2 of those wins came in 2016, 1 in 2020.

What do you think will happen? Poll included. I will go for Zverev in 3.
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Easiest format to recover; Bo3 with days off between early rounds and rare chances for rain to bottleneck the schedule. The first set today was the only lengthy set. Muzz should be fine and the weather will be noticeably cooler AND very windy.

I’ll stick with the same choice I made for 2R: Muzz in three.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Interesting comment from Zverev when asked about his forthcoming encounter with Murray: "Murray is the only one of the Big 4 I haven't beaten".

So contrary to what many like to argue on here, the term Big 4 is not just an invention of Murray Fanboys. :cool:
 
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Rudiiii

Rookie
Zed on hard is one of the best players today, any types of hard suits him really well. I don't see Murray standing a chance, but i say Zed in three(one free set to Murray, just like today againts Brooksby)
 

goldengate14

Professional
Interesting comment from Zverev when asked about his forthcoming encounter with Murray: "Murray is the only one of the Big 4 I haven't beaten".

So contrary to what many like to argue on here, the term Big 4 is not just an invention of Murray Fanboys. :cool:
3 slams and 2 Ogs and 14 m1000s and people say he is not part of Big4? Really?
Murray is in top 10 of all time.
as for can he beat Zverev i doubt it as i think condions suit zverev more.
 

goldengate14

Professional
Zed on hard is one of the best players today, any types of hard suits him really well. I don't see Murray standing a chance, but i say Zed in three(one free set to Murray, just like today againts Brooksby)
Id have backed Murray if this was miami. But IW is more favourable for Zverev so zverev in 3
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Very close to it then if not in it
Which of these would you relegate to make Muzziah top 10 all time open era:

fedr
the Nadal
Joe Kovic
Sampras
Laver
Borg
Lendl
Connors
JMac
Agassi
Remember, OG was not available in peak eras for at least five of of these ATGs so don’t do the 3 plus 2 math to justify promotion.
 

El_Yotamo

Hall of Fame
Honestly neither player has been very successful at Indian Wells so it should be interesting, could well come down to mental resilience which makes me want to favor Murray. In any case really hoping for Murray to come through and not just for yet another #ABZ moment
 

Rosstour

Legend
Easiest format to recover; Bo3 with days off between early rounds and rare chances for rain to bottleneck the schedule. The first set today was the only lengthy set. Muzz should be fine and the weather will be noticeably cooler AND very windy.

I’ll stick with the same choice I made for 2R: Muzz in three.
Here's to hoping.

Not sure how any tennis fan isn't rooting like crazy for the Muzzard every time he goes out there
 

Picmun

Hall of Fame
Interesting comment from Zverev when asked about his forthcoming encounter with Murray: "Murray is the only one of the Big 4 I haven't beaten".

So contrary to what many like to argue on here, the term Big 4 is not just an invention of Murray Fanboys. :cool:
!
And what pray is WRONG with being a Mury Fan Booey ? Eh Mainad !?
 

Ray Mercer

Hall of Fame
Murray has such a good cross court backhand but I dont get why he never takes it down the line. It would be such a deadly shot to add to his arsenal. It drives me nuts how passive he is.
 

Flint

Hall of Fame
Murray has such a good cross court backhand but I dont get why he never takes it down the line. It would be such a deadly shot to add to his arsenal. It drives me nuts how passive he is.
The amount of times I see it when he has an opponent pinned back in a cross court backhand exchange and the down the line shot is wide open and begging and he doesn't hit it is too high!

I would love to see Murray hit down the line more on BOTH sides. I think after not too long he would get very good at it, he has the talent and the work ethic. Then life would start to get much easier for Mr Murray.
 

Picmun

Hall of Fame
Which of these would you relegate to make Muzziah top 10 all time open era:

fedr
the Nadal
Joe Kovic
Sampras
Laver
Borg
Lendl
Connors
JMac
Agassi
Remember, OG was not available in peak eras for at least five of of these ATGs so don’t do the 3 plus 2 math to justify promotion.
All of them! - You DingBat !
Sheesh! - The guys an Idiot!!
 

goldengate14

Professional
Which of these would you relegate to make Muzziah top 10 all time open era:

fedr
the Nadal
Joe Kovic
Sampras
Laver
Borg
Lendl
Connors
JMac
Agassi
Remember, OG was not available in peak eras for at least five of of these ATGs so don’t do the 3 plus 2 math to justify promotion.
I said close to it although personally i prefer Murrays career to Lendl. In the 80s not having wimbleon was as big a hole in a cv as one could have
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
I said close to it although personally i prefer Murrays career to Lendl. In the 80s not having wimbleon was as big a hole in a cv as one could have
Agree to disagree. Lendl’s weeks at #1 and years ending as #1 >>>> Murray. Yeah, having a CGS would have been nice but it’s not the flaw you suggest.
 

goldengate14

Professional
Agree to disagree. Lendl’s weeks at #1 and years ending as #1 >>>> Murray. Yeah, having a CGS would have been nice but it’s not the flaw you suggest.
If i were a pro player id want Wimbledon. Lendl not having it must hurt like mad to this day as he was good enough to win
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
If i were a pro player id want Wimbledon. Lendl not having it must hurt like mad to this day as he was good enough to win
Yes, I’ve met Lendl and peeps that introduced me to him in Vero Beach implied I would be invited back if I avoid certain taboo subjects, grass allergies being one of those verboten subjects.
 

mike danny

Bionic Poster
Interesting comment from Zverev when asked about his forthcoming encounter with Murray: "Murray is the only one of the Big 4 I haven't beaten".

So contrary to what many like to argue on here, the term Big 4 is not just an invention of Murray Fanboys. :cool:
Conversely, Zverev is the only one of the top Next Gen Murray has beaten.
 
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Deleted member 771911

Guest
I would be gutted if I had tickets and this was one of the matches on offer lol
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
I thought he'd have 2 days off after Alcaraz.
I tried to explain IW typically offers during early rounds one day off between matches with the top half and bottom half alternating play. If you know differently, please provide us when it’s happened in the past. There is no history of special dispensations from that format that I am aware of.

OoP will be out later today in the evening to confirm or deny when the match will be played.
 

RF-18

Talk Tennis Guru
Even peak Murray would be in trouble vs these guys and hus chances doesn't rise here. Z in 2 sets.
 

Mainad

Bionic Poster
Even peak Murray would be in trouble vs these guys and hus chances doesn't rise here. Z in 2 sets.
Lol... if he could notch up double digit victories against the Big 3 including Slams and other big titles I doubt peak Murray would lose much sweat over the current crop of pretenders! :cool:
 

Milanez82

Hall of Fame
Which of these would you relegate to make Muzziah top 10 all time open era:

fedr
the Nadal
Joe Kovic
Sampras
Laver
Borg
Lendl
Connors
JMac
Agassi
Remember, OG was not available in peak eras for at least five of of these ATGs so don’t do the 3 plus 2 math to justify promotion.
Not sure Murray could make top 20 cut

Top 10 is just laughable
He is still a great player that made an impact
 

stringertom

Bionic Poster
Not sure Murray could make top 20 cut

Top 10 is just laughable
He is still a great player that made an impact
Top 10 fan base for their loyalty but I am dead certain he’s top 20 of Open Era players. Same for other multiple slam winners like Courier, Hewitt and Wawrinka.
 
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