2021 US Open Final - [1] Novak Djokovic vs. [2] Daniil Medvedev

2021 US Open Champion?


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jltman

Rookie
I’ll bite.

Djokovic’s Achilles heel is hot humid weather.

The last time Djok played a slam match in conditions as warm as tomorrow? US Open 2014 semi vs Nishikori.

Djok’s most recent two matches with temperature as hot as tomorrow? Olympic semi against Zverev, and Bronze metal match against PCB.

Meanwhile, Medvedev is a stud in Bo5 as long as it’s hot out. He only loses when the temp is in the 60s or 70s.

The last time Medvedev lost a slam match when the high temp that day was 80F or higher? 2019 AO, almost 3 years ago (when he was seeded #15 against #1 Djok). Med has won an incredible 17 consecutive slam matches with temp over 80F since then.
This is an interesting take and worth taking into consideration.
 

ark_28

Legend
The zoomer generation should be banned from tennis if Med loses. They are the reason the slam race is even tied. Federer had a higher level 6 years ago than Novak right now (or at any other point in his career at same age, bar teen and early tween years) but he had to compete against prime Novak in stead of mediocre zoomer mugs (Tsitsipas, Medvedev, Zverev) who all wouldn't even be top 10 ranked in the early to mid 10s.

Some people have the audacity to talk about the 4 years Federer dominated the tour being a weak era. The competition was 10x better than the last four years and there is a big chance Federer would have won most of those titles regardless of level of competition as the courts were faster, AO was on rebound ace and Federer showed that his late 20s/early 30s level (in physical sport +90% of the athletes peak around their mid 20s) was pretty much on par with prime Djokovic's level (who would have been his biggest competition outside of RG). Most matches wouldn't have been close enough for Nole to profit of being mentally stronger. On the other habd Nole would not win any slams if the tour level was on par with the early or maybe even mid 10s.

I'm sick to my stomach that the clearly evident GOAT might not go down as the GOAT in general consensus because of the technicality of zoomers being trash at tennis. After 15 years of following the sport I'll probably quit on sunday.

Nole in 3.
Keep crying
 

Kralingen

Legend
The zoomer generation should be banned from tennis if Med loses. They are the reason the slam race is even tied. Federer had a higher level 6 years ago than Novak right now (or at any other point in his career at same age, bar teen and early tween years) but he had to compete against prime Novak in stead of mediocre zoomer mugs (Tsitsipas, Medvedev, Zverev) who all wouldn't even be top 10 ranked in the early to mid 10s.

Some people have the audacity to talk about the 4 years Federer dominated the tour being a weak era. The competition was 10x better than the last four years and there is a big chance Federer would have won most of those titles regardless of level of competition as the courts were faster, AO was on rebound ace and Federer showed that his late 20s/early 30s level (in physical sport +90% of the athletes peak around their mid 20s) was pretty much on par with prime Djokovic's level (who would have been his biggest competition outside of RG). Most matches wouldn't have been close enough for Nole to profit of being mentally stronger. On the other habd Nole would not win any slams if the tour level was on par with the early or maybe even mid 10s.

I'm sick to my stomach that the clearly evident GOAT might not go down as the GOAT in general consensus because of the technicality of zoomers being trash at tennis. After 15 years of following the sport I'll probably quit on sunday.

Nole in 3.
You know there’s a fair amount of truth in this post but it genuinely reads like you were crying when you wrote it. So..
 

grinsidetennis

New User
I dont agree at all that Med is an easier opponent for Nole. Zverev has so many flaws as a player that Medvedev hasn't. The Russian knows very well how to go to toe with Nole. It'll be exciting. If there's one thing that incites Med are challenges, he'll be motivated like never before to get his first GS by stopping Djokovic's historic effort.
 

Kralingen

Legend
Med’s only hope is just exhausting Djokovic in pusher rallies and hoping he can force errors out of him with backboard like defense. Might just work, Brooksby-style.
 

EllieK

Hall of Fame
Novak will be exhausted after the last two matches that were 3+ hours especially after Zverev match. Medvedev is in form of his life and rested. He can trouble exhausted and mentally drained Novak. I give 58% chances to Medvedev vs. 42% to Novak. Could go to 5 sets with Novak severly without breath in the fifth in the biggest drama tennis world has seen after 40:15.
Novak will not be exhausted at all. He is a physical beast. Medvedev will have to bring his absolute best to have any chance against a man who is fighting for tennis history. I truly thought Meddy would win AO and instead it was an embarrassment for him as he folded like a cheap suit. I’m not idiot enough to claim that this one will be any different. Look, as much as i respect Djokovic as a phenomenal player, I really really want Daniil to win this one and give us a new champion. If Djokovic wins the CYGS, he will have deserved it and the GOAT debate is over. Even as a Federer fan, I would have to say that. I will always take Fed’s game style as more exciting than Novak’s, but the proof is in the stats.
 

travlerajm

G.O.A.T.
Med’s only hope is just exhausting Djokovic in pusher rallies and hoping he can force errors out of him with backboard like defense. Might just work, Brooksby-style.
This is ignoring some facts.

Medvedev has been getting a lot more free points off service winners than Djokovic. That will continue, especially in the hot conditions tomorrow.
 

swordtennis

G.O.A.T.
Djokovic might need to figure out a tactic that gets the big guy to force the big Russian to have to work the net more.
It might be his only real weakness
Two tactical minds match.
 

Kralingen

Legend
This is ignoring some facts.

Medvedev has been getting a lot more free points off service winners than Djokovic. That will continue, especially in the hot conditions tomorrow.
I know that too just didn’t feel like typing all of the aspects of their game. In my earlier post I said med will have to servebot incredibly well. Remember free service points against FAA are 10x easier than against Djokovic.

It’s all about making Djokovic exhausted on his own service games. I really do think the stamina favors Med.
 
It’s actually been his Achilles heel his whole career. Remember his upset loss to an over-the-hill Roddick in AO 2009 when he tapped out?
It’s not that hot on Sunday to be honest and by near 5pm they will be in shade and will come less of a factor. Meddy also doesn’t like the heat either as we seen in Tokyo. I don’t think it’s a big deal for djoko right now considering how fit he is currently
 
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I know that too just didn’t feel like typing all of the aspects of their game. In my earlier post I said med will have to servebot incredibly well. Remember free service points against FAA are 10x easier than against Djokovic.

It’s all about making Djokovic exhausted on his own service games. I really do think the stamina favors Med.
Djoko keeps showing us though his powers of recovery. It’s very difficult to outlast him in best of 5 match.

I think both players don’t particularly like the heat as we saw in Tokyo. Although the good news for them as they playing close to 5pm so likely they will be in shade and the night conditions will come as they match wears on.

It’s a hard match to call of both players in form. Djoko got more experience but meddy getting more experienced so it’s gonna be close. It will be a super battle.
 

tudwell

Legend
I dont agree at all that Med is an easier opponent for Nole. Zverev has so many flaws as a player that Medvedev hasn't. The Russian knows very well how to go to toe with Nole. It'll be exciting. If there's one thing that incites Med are challenges, he'll be motivated like never before to get his first GS by stopping Djokovic's historic effort.
Yeah, I was just thinking: While I expect Medvedev to lose on Sunday, I’m not sure why so many people are saying he has such a bad matchup with Novak. Novak leads Medvedev 5-3, with two of those wins coming back in 2017 when Medvedev was nowhere close to the player he is today (and one of them a retirement to boot). It’s 3-3 since the start of 2019.

Meanwhile against Zverev he’s now 7-3 and was leading 6-2 just a couple months ago before the Olympics. And one of Zverev’s wins was smack in the middle of Novak’s big slump. All three of Zverev’s wins were pretty big occasion (a Masters final, a WTF final, and an Olympics semi) and the level he showed in them was very high, but I don’t see how it’s so much more impressive than Med going 3-3 in the last 3 years with Novak.
 

Pandaman

Rookie
Agreed. If Medvedev was such a bad matchup, he wouldn't have won 3/4 against Novak before AO, with the 1 loss being very close. I watched their world tour finals match - yes, Novak maybe didn't have as much motivation after clinching year end #1, but he wanted to win that tournament, and Medvedev outrallied him and made him look washed up. I was scared. At the AO, Novak had an excellent game plan that surprised Med, who had some nerves. That's not going to happen this time.

It's also not going to be played in favorable circumstances for Djoker (i.e., being well rested and night match) as in Australia, minus injury. I voted Djoker in 4 bc he'll know he needs to wrap it up (which he's been horrible at this tourney), but I'm not gonna be surprised if the Russian backboard plays almost flawless tennis bc of how fresh he'll be, either. Novak is going to feel the physical consequences of his sloppy tournament play early on.
 
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ACE of Hearts

Bionic Poster
People are hyping up Medvedev. I hope it’s a good match but like i said styles makes fight and med’s style is perfect for novak. Only met up in two slams both AO and never felt any danger against him.
 

Pheasant

Hall of Fame
Yeah, I was just thinking: While I expect Medvedev to lose on Sunday, I’m not sure why so many people are saying he has such a bad matchup with Novak. Novak leads Medvedev 5-3, with two of those wins coming back in 2017 when Medvedev was nowhere close to the player he is today (and one of them a retirement to boot). It’s 3-3 since the start of 2019.

Meanwhile against Zverev he’s now 7-3 and was leading 6-2 just a couple months ago before the Olympics. And one of Zverev’s wins was smack in the middle of Novak’s big slump. All three of Zverev’s wins were pretty big occasion (a Masters final, a WTF final, and an Olympics semi) and the level he showed in them was very high, but I don’t see how it’s so much more impressive than Med going 3-3 in the last 3 years with Novak.
It's not about consistency, but about each player's top gear. To beat Djoker at a slam event, you need to bring a cannon and Zverev has a cannon of a serve. That match last night was borderline epic. Medvedev is far more consistent than Zverev, which is why he has a better overall record. But Medvedev's top gear won't get him to a 5th set against Djoker in a slam. Med might steal a set; maybe. But if Djoker starts out like he did yesterday, he'll win in straight sets.

Zverev won 75% of his first serves vs Djoker, which is an incredibly high percentage against a human wall. None of Djoker's opponents managed to top 63%. Berrettini was held to 60%. Zverev's problem is that he only got 62% of his first serves in. And he missed a lot of first serves by an inch. Had Zverev gotten 70% of his first serves, he would have won the match. And 70% was his average entering the match.

Med might push this to a 4th set. I'm 50/50 on calling this a 3 set blowout for Djoker. It won't get to a 5th.
 
Agreed. If Medvedev was such a bad matchup, he wouldn't have won 3/4 against Novak before AO, with the 1 loss being very close. I watched their world tour finals match - yes, Novak maybe didn't have as much motivation after clinching year end #1, but he wanted to win that tournament, and Medvedev outrallied him and made him look washed up. I was scared. At the AO, Novak had an excellent game plan that surprised Med, and Med had some nerves. That's not going to happen this time.

It's also not going to be played in favorable circumstances for Djoker (i.e., being well rested and night match) as in Australia, minus injury. I voted Djoker in 4 bc he'll know he needs to wrap it up (which he's been horrible at this tourney), but I'm not gonna be surprised if the Russian backboard plays almost flawless tennis bc of how fresh he'll be, either. Novak is going to feel the physical consequences of his sloppy tournament play early on.
Great balanced post as usual. I love your posts and you give great fair analysis. I can’t wait for Sunday. I like both these guys but obviously love Novak and really hope he does it. I think the final won’t disappoint. May the best man win.
 
Good news for both guys is it won’t be very windy on Sunday. It’s pretty low breeze. The weather may be a bit hotter but it will likely cool off as the match progresses as it’s a late afternoon/early evening start. They should go in shade not long after and it will approach night conditions.
 

THUNDERVOLLEY

G.O.A.T.
Keep crying
Agreed--now tha Djokovic is one match away from the Grand Slam / GOAT player status, the worst of Federer's fans are moving goal posts, attempting (and failing) to alter history and anything to say Federer was a better player, when the evidence presents a far different picture. I expect this board to be littered with Federer worshipers' overflowing toilet of flame-bait threads, threats, doctored YouTube videos, and a variety of asshurt whining if Djokovic wins.

...and the most recent posts in the "i stand by roger flight of the golden eagle of victory" thread is just the beginning of the clinically unhealthy idolatry that fuels the Federer-obsessed.
 
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tudwell

Legend
It's not about consistency, but about each player's top gear. To beat Djoker at a slam event, you need to bring a cannon and Zverev has a cannon of a serve. That match last night was borderline epic. Medvedev is far more consistent than Zverev, which is why he has a better overall record. But Medvedev's top gear won't get him to a 5th set against Djoker in a slam. Med might steal a set; maybe. But if Djoker starts out like he did yesterday, he'll win in straight sets.

Zverev won 75% of his first serves vs Djoker, which is an incredibly high percentage against a human wall. None of Djoker's opponents managed to top 63%. Berrettini was held to 60%. Zverev's problem is that he only got 62% of his first serves in. And he missed a lot of first serves by an inch. Had Zverev gotten 70% of his first serves, he would have won the match. And 70% was his average entering the match.

Med might push this to a 4th set. I'm 50/50 on calling this a 3 set blowout for Djoker. It won't get to a 5th.
I agree to an extent and almost added more about Zverev’s top-end power allowing him to take the match out of Novak’s hands somewhat, at least in comparison to Medvedev.

But on the other hand, Medvedev is a much, much smarter player. He can’t blow Novak off the court from the ground, but he’s one of the few guys with both the movement and the tactical acumen required to outmaneuver him with any kind of consistency. His serve is still a big one and will still win him free points – not as lethal as Zverev’s, but probably more reliable. Fewer patches where he can‘t get a first serve in, and not as many double faults or 70 mph second serves. And he’s even more consistent on return. He has his weapons.

Zverev in full flight, of course, is a sight to behold – easily the best of the current crop of Next Genners, in my opinion – but the problem is he struggles to find that form with any consistency and is especially bad at maintaining it in the biggest, tightest moments at the business end of a grand slam (as we saw again last night). In a vacuum, peaking for just one match, yeah, I think Zverev’s the tougher match-up, but in the real-world up and down of the tour, Med’s going to more reliably frustrate and beat Novak, I think (though not on Sunday of course :)).

Edit: But yeah, as far as getting that one big win at a slam, Zverev might be a bit likelier provided he can redline for longer than he managed to last night. We’ll see on Sunday how things shake out.
 

NAS

Hall of Fame
I was looking up Medvedev's stats and for some reason they were available for every match except his second round match with Andujar? I searched all over for the stats to that match but he won that match easily. So I only have stats for his 5 other matches but they show that he is averaging less than 3 break points against him in his matches, he is serving an average of 70% first serves, winning an average of 83% of them, and over 60% of his second serves, he has broken serve 36 times and had at least 24 more break points beyond that, he has had zero tiebreaks. These are incredibly impressive stats. I know Djokovic fans will do what they always do, try to punch holes in his extraordinary achievement during this tournament, but the point is that Medvedev is playing at a level in which he can win. (I can hear it now: "but Djokovic can walk on water and will win anyway despite the fact that he has been on the court longer, played far less well than Medvedev, faces far more break points, served far less well, and besides Medvedev hasn't been tested - blah blah blech!).

This USO will be the greatest tournament ever if Djokovic loses. The transitional tournament away from the big 3 era that tennis needs right now.
So you will be supporting anybody but Rafa during RG
 

Vamos Rafa Nadal

Hall of Fame
Any stretegies out there ? we must help Danill, he needs our help
Medvedev just has to continue doing what he has been doing throughout the tournament, be ready to hit the reset button if he loses a game or two or even a set, believe that he can win - if he serves the way he has been serving and is able to craft points the way he has been doing all tournament he can win. It will be harder, yes, but he can do it.
 

Pandaman

Rookie
Great balanced post as usual. I love your posts and you give great fair analysis. I can’t wait for Sunday. I like both these guys but obviously love Novak and really hope he does it. I think the final won’t disappoint. May the best man win.
Thank you, my friend. I love reading the frequent posts of opponent destruction, but they are confusing this version of Novak with Novak from years ago. His baseline play is not as good. If it were, he would've buckled down and gotten it done in 2 hours 50 minutes in 4 sets instead of getting broken at 1-1 with two game points. The nextgen always focus their praise on his mental game, but you can attest to this: if they played the baseline God version from 2015, they would quickly change their tune. They wouldn't win a set. This is not the same guy. He IS better at serving, volleying, and strategy/tactics, but most of the matches are spent on the baseline.

He mentions the loss of focus in his presser:
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
Medvedev just has to continue doing what he has been doing throughout the tournament, be ready to hit the reset button if he loses a game or two or even a set, believe that he can win - if he serves the way he has been serving and is able to craft points the way he has been doing all tournament he can win. It will be harder, yes, but he can do it.
Lets pray that you are right

 

TennisFan3

G.O.A.T.
I agree to an extent and almost added more about Zverev’s top-end power allowing him to take the match out of Novak’s hands somewhat, at least in comparison to Medvedev.

But on the other hand, Medvedev is a much, much smarter player. He can’t blow Novak off the court from the ground, but he’s one of the few guys with both the movement and the tactical acumen required to outmaneuver him with any kind of consistency. His serve is still a big one and will still win him free points – not as lethal as Zverev’s, but probably more reliable. Fewer patches where he can‘t get a first serve in, and not as many double faults or 70 mph second serves. And he’s even more consistent on return. He has his weapons.

Zverev in full flight, of course, is a sight to behold – easily the best of the current crop of Next Genners, in my opinion – but the problem is he struggles to find that form with any consistency and is especially bad at maintaining it in the biggest, tightest moments at the business end of a grand slam (as we saw again last night). In a vacuum, peaking for just one match, yeah, I think Zverev’s the tougher match-up, but in the real-world up and down of the tour, Med’s going to more reliably frustrate and beat Novak, I think (though not on Sunday of course :)).

Edit: But yeah, as far as getting that one big win at a slam, Zverev might be a bit likelier provided he can redline for longer than he managed to last night. We’ll see on Sunday how things shake out.
Did you watch Novak vs Med in AO 2021? Novak was breaking Med like be was a club player. Also on his own serves, Novak was destroying Med's deep court positioning by coming to the net.

Med doesn't have the power on his groundies to hang with Novak like Zed does. Med's forehand is significantly weaker. Most critically, he cannot take time away from Novak because Med stands too far back. If Novak played at his level vs Zverev, Med won't win a set.
 

TennisFan3

G.O.A.T.
What a showdown in the final on Sunday.
Not much of a showdown to be honest. I don't know what people are really hyped about. I saw both the Novak Med AO matches and their WTF match.

Unless Novak is very tight or very nervous it won't be much of a match. I promise you this, that if Novak plays the way he does against Zverev, he will destroy Med.

People are piling on a lot of crap on Zverev because he lost. But jokes apart, Zverev was incredible. He played a great match. Of course in a best of 5 match you will have your dips, and he did. You can't be perfect all the time. But I can promise you, yesterday's Zed beats everyone except Novak.

I watched all the big points of yesterday's match. You know what Novak did? He either hit his serve on the line - so unreturnable. Or he hit his groundies on the line for near winners. The only UFE was the double fault Novak did on BP in set 1.

How can anyone compete with the perfect tennis, Novak plays at big points? The guy is a machine. He's destroyed Fed and Nadal the same way. He never missed on big points and reserves his best for when it's needed most. A true champion.
 
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Pandaman

Rookie
Not much of a showdown to be honest. I don't know what people are really hyped about. I saw both the Novak Med AO matches and their WTF match.

Unless Novak is very tight or very nervous it won't be much of a match. I promise you this, that if Novak plays the way he does against Zverev, he will destroy Med.

People are piling on a lot of crap on Zverev because he lost. But jokes apart, Zverev was incredible. He played a great match. Of course in a best of 5 march you will have your dips, and he did. You can't be perfect all the time. But I can promise you, yesterday's Zed beats everyone except Novak.

I watched all the big points of yesterday's match. You know what Novak did? He either hit his serve on the line - so unreturnable. Or he hit his groundies on the line for near winners. The only UFE was the double fault Novak did on BP in set 1.

How can anyone compete with the perfect tennis, Novak plays at big points? The guy is a machine. He's destroyed Fed and Nadal the same way. He never missed on big points and reserves his best for when it's needed most. A true champion.
I was not surprised but was frustrated at Zverev's level. It was a lot like Olympics. He wouldn't miss, and his serving was amazing. It's scary to think what he's going to do in the future. Novak can improve as well - his FH was erratic and he did not come to net enough. BH was fine, but he hardly went up the line. Too many safe or deep shots and not enough sharp angles and lines like he did in AO. Do you think he'll have to alter his game even more as he gets older? I don't think he can win 5 more GS playing like this, but we gotta rmr, this has been an exhausting, pressure-packed year, and he didnt play a match in a month. He might not give a **** after this and start unloading.
 

Aabye5

Hall of Fame
Djokovic had to face 2 top-8 seeds though. Berrettini (6) who ONLY lost to him this year in slam, and Zverev (4) who is the 2nd best player in the world since the clay season, and who hadn't lost a match since Wimbledon. I don't think ANYONE else would've had the last word against this Zverev. In comparison, Medvedev had a qualifier in 1/4, and 2 non top-10 seeds including one who was playing his first slam 1/2. Djokovic also played Nishikori who was easily top-15 in this match, whereas Medvedev got a 35 years old clay specialist (Andujar). In Round 1 Djokovic faced a teenager who was on a winning streak of 14 matches. Rune > Gasquet, Nishikori > Andujar, Berrettini > Zandschulp and Zverev > Auger-Aliassime. Technically, only Medvedev's 4th Round was tougher (Evans > Brooksby) and maybe the 2nd match (Grieekspoor vs Koepfer... debatable, though since Griekspoor took out Struff). So, Medvedev dropping 1 set is a bit misleading IMO. He was only a few points away from dropping 2 sets against a qualifier in 1/4. And today he was down 2-5 + 3 sets points on Auger's serve at 5-3. FAA choked big time IMO. Much like Sinner in the 3rd set tie-break or Harris in his 1st set.
"Medvedev has been playing better all tournament" Debatable. In the last 2 matches, I thought Djokovic played reached a higher level. Do you really believe Medvedev played better than Djokovic's last 3 sets vs Berrettini and the last 4 sets today?

To answer the poll.. Djokovic SLIGHTLY favorite for me. Physical recuperation MAY be a factor, sure. But we saw what happened in Australia. Djokvic also dropped sets in 4 different matches (Medvedev only in 1 match) and he still won in 3. In Roland, the SF vs Nadal was just as difficult as the SF today, Tsitsipas was a lot fresher and we saw what happened. He has now 2 days to recover, he'll be ready. This is a unique opportunity to make the greatest achievement in tennis history. He won't let fatigue ruin his chances, in my opinion.
One thing that could play in Medvedev's favor is the pressure for the Calendar Slam. The pressure was huge since the 1st round here, but it'll be 10x higher in final? It's the one thing that may derail Djokovic if he gets close to winning. We'll see how he handles it.
Based on the level of Djokovic/Zvererv's match + the last Djokovic/Medvedev match, it's 60-40 for me.
I wouldn't bet my house on this, but if I had to choose something, it'd be Djokovic in 4.
Two top seeds?! If Med had played Berrettini he would have eaten him for lunch. Zverev is a different story, but let's face the facts -- Berrettini needs a backhand before he can be a contender on hardcourts.
 

egrorian

Rookie
In Melbourne, Djokovic looked below par and Medvedev on fire. Novak has history of just getting the job done and then going up the gears for the final. If he does so again on Sunday then surely he wins. However, that Novak won easily at the AO certainly doesn't mean he will do so again. I remember Federer thrashing Del Potro at the AO 2009 but couldn't get past him in NY. There's so much on the line for Djokovic I think it's difficult to know whether he will be inspired or if the weight of history will weigh him down - but I'd love to see him do it.
 

paolo2143

Semi-Pro
On the face of it pretty much everything is in Danii's favour. He will be much fresher of the two having been on court about 5 hours less during tournament and he hasn't really had to physically or mentally exert himself at all compared to Novak.

He is younger and should be fitter. He also has no real pressure on him whereas Novak is probably facing the greatest pressure that any male player has had in history of game.

Yes Donald Budge and Rod Laver have won CGSM before but that was in different eras where even the tennis loving public often didn't know about the result until following day or had to listen to match on radio. There was no wall to wall 24 hour coverage and media on players backs constantly throughout tournament. The players nowadays are under ten times the scrutiny they were in Rod's.

Even when Borg was in final of 1989 Us Open going for the 3 slam of year to potentially set up a thrilling Aus Open(where Australian open was the last slam held in December), Rod admitted that compared to just 10 years ago the slam was much harder with the quality of field, different surfaces and media pressures as well as the constant playing and travelling.

So i can assure you it is much more the case now. Novak has weight of history on Sunday and it might be too much even for him.

Having said that if there is anyone since Laver who could do this it is Novak and i would never write him off.

I wish more Rafa/Roger fans were like my best mate (huge Rafa supporter) who actually said to me today even though he won't be rooting for Novak tomorrow, it is thrilling to see the chance of history being made. Both he and myself never though in our lifetimes that we would see this even being possible as both even the great Roger and Rafa couldn't get near it.

I hope Novak does win so i can say i saw a bit of history being made but even if he doesn't it has been a great and thrilling ride right down to the wire.
 

paolo2143

Semi-Pro
Not much of a showdown to be honest. I don't know what people are really hyped about. I saw both the Novak Med AO matches and their WTF match.

Unless Novak is very tight or very nervous it won't be much of a match. I promise you this, that if Novak plays the way he does against Zverev, he will destroy Med.

People are piling on a lot of crap on Zverev because he lost. But jokes apart, Zverev was incredible. He played a great match. Of course in a best of 5 march you will have your dips, and he did. You can't be perfect all the time. But I can promise you, yesterday's Zed beats everyone except Novak.

I watched all the big points of yesterday's match. You know what Novak did? He either hit his serve on the line - so unreturnable. Or he hit his groundies on the line for near winners. The only UFE was the double fault Novak did on BP in set 1.

How can anyone compete with the perfect tennis, Novak plays at big points? The guy is a machine. He's destroyed Fed and Nadal the same way. He never missed on big points and reserves his best for when it's needed most. A true champion.
You said the same about Zverev match and that it would be a walkover. I don't call a match that was tied at 2-2 sets a walkover even if Novak won final set with bit to spare.
 

paolo2143

Semi-Pro
The difference between Zverev and Medvedev is that Zverev mentally checks out for parts of his big matches and Medvedev hasn't been doing that in most of his. Medvedev knows how to lose a game or a set and hit the reset button (which Alcaraz clearly knows how to do as well). Zverev lets disappointments get to him in a much bigger way. I didn't see the AO final so I can't speak to it - I felt that Djokovic was going to win that tournament so I wasn't at all invested in it.

I get how excited Djokovic fans are right now. But it is wrong to say that Medvedev has no chance to defeat him tomorrow. I not only thing there is a big chance of it I believe Medvedev is going to win.
Again most of the people who are saying Novak is going to win comfortably are Fed and Nadal fans who are trying to down play success and then gloat if he fails. Most Novak fans including me are extremely nervous and know that Danii is capable of winning if Novak is not 100% on his game.
 

egrorian

Rookie
While there will be absolutely no shame should he lose, I think it would be a heart breaker for Djokovic to fall at the final hurdle.
 

uscwang

Hall of Fame
Again, how many time have we seen players serving aces through early rounds, never dropping a set, never broken, and then they played Novak in SF or F of GS and got broken left and right?
Too many plus Zverev 2021 USO SF and Medvedev 2021 AO F.
 
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