2021 US Open Final - [1] Novak Djokovic vs. [2] Daniil Medvedev

2021 US Open Champion?


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liriel

Semi-Pro
I know Medv feels the pressure but maybe Zverev who was supposed to be the one and was promoted as such will help his cause. Because I believe we almost agreed it's only Zverev who can take it from Novak. So Zverev felt more pressure and Medv less. Have no idea on Novak comments. I just wish I had 0,01% of his self confidence.
 
1956 ----- Lew Hoad.

In 1956 Lew Hoad won the Australian Championships, then the French Championships, then Wimbledon.

At the Australian Championships final he beat Rosewall.

French Championships, he beat Sven Davidson for the title.

In Wimbledon final, he beat Rosewall again.

Now it was time to close the cycle by winning the U.S National Championships.

Forest Hills saw the final, there Lew Hoad faced Ken Rosewall, an old foe.

He already beat Rosewall twice in 2 GS finals in 1956.

The final started, and Lew Hoad took the first set.

Then Rosewall came from behind and took the next 3.

That was the end of Hoad's dream.

History could repeat itself.

Djokovic might pull a Lew Hoad.

But then, Djokovic is the best in the business, he might get it.

Tik tok tik tok tik tok, the result just a few hours away.

No matter what is the outcome, it'll be historic.
 

Fedeonic

Hall of Fame
I was rewatching some US Open finals with Djokovic, and the current structure of the Arthur Ashe really favours his mostly robotic groundstrokes much more than in the non-covered AA, take in account that while in 2015 there was no roof yet, the stadium structure had changed a lot.
To make my point, Djokovic was 1-4 in the non-roof Arthur Ashe and 2-1 in the with-roof Arthur Ashe.
 

Aabye5

Hall of Fame
Here is the key for medvedev, anyone know his phone numeber ? we need to get this to him quick

What? Didn't Zverev come to the net a lot more? How did that work for him

Edit - who still carries around loose change :laughing: MadLad everything you do is unorthodox.
 

D.Nalby12

G.O.A.T.
After watching the way Med folded in AO final - i don't have much hope from him here. May win a set (most likely) or two.
 
Med will make Djokovic run, that’s the point of his deep return position and sideline to sideline game. He’s going to try to wear the 34 year old down, and he’s as fresh as you can possibly be having only dropped 1 set and had 2 days rest before the SF. And that would be a great strategy, if he were playing anyone else.

I just don’t think he has it. Would need to servebot like he never has in his life. Djokovic looks like a demon again. Djokovic in a tight 4.
Med is good but Novak is just that little better in every facet of the game. Novak to win easy in 4. All hail the GOAT.
 

mightyrick

Legend
I'm actually taking Medvedev in 4 in this match. I think his form is actually better than Djokovic (and Zverev). Obviously, Djokovic is going to be probably putting on more pressure on his opponent than he ever has. The match should be great -- no matter who wins.

I watched Medvedev's press conference and I really think this match is going to come down to how badly Medvedev wants it. In his presser, he talked about how in times past, he really was already satisfied having made the final. As a result, he didn't totally feel desperation and desire to win it -- that his heart wasn't "all in". But he said in his presser that this time... he wants it. He's basically tired of losing these finals and he wants to leave it all on the court and win the third one.

Djokovic is going to do what he does. We all know it and have seen it for years. There's no mystery to it. But this time, I think it pretty much depends on Medvedev. If he goes out there and just tries to simply play a good match... he's going to lose. If Medvedev goes out there with all his heart and truly wants to win it all... I think he will win it. Up until this point, I've never seen Medvedev play with real hunger.

But if he's true to his word from his press conference (and I've never heard him talk like this before), then I think he wins it.
 

Vamos Rafa Nadal

Hall of Fame
I am glad this will finally be over tomorrow. I am making an incredibly bold prediction: Medvedev will win in 3 straight sets. I have noticed that when Djokovic wants to win too much he loses and implodes. Before you jump all over me please remember that predictions are speculative and we are all entitled to think one player will win over another and to interpret information (stats in this case) to make a case for one outcome over another. I think most people are predicting Djokovic due to the historicity aspect of the occasion. Medvedev has dropped only one set and you can think that doesn't matter but think otherwise. I respect people who predict Djokovic and have real reasons for it other than "he's Djokovic so therefore he will win".

I boldly predicted that Roger Federer would lose to Hubert Hurkacz in 3 straight sets at Wimbledon and I was right about it. If I am wrong about my prediction and your precious Djokovic wins so be it, it's no disgrace to be wrong about a tennis match. There's no reason to get upset about it or to ridicule someone else's prediction.
 

Vamos Rafa Nadal

Hall of Fame
I'm actually taking Medvedev in 4 in this match. I think his form is actually better than Djokovic (and Zverev). Obviously, Djokovic is going to be probably putting on more pressure on his opponent than he ever has. The match should be great -- no matter who wins.

I watched Medvedev's press conference and I really think this match is going to come down to how badly Medvedev wants it. In his presser, he talked about how in times past, he really was already satisfied having made the final. As a result, he didn't totally feel desperation and desire to win it -- that his heart wasn't "all in". But he said in his presser that this time... he wants it. He's basically tired of losing these finals and he wants to leave it all on the court and win the third one.

Djokovic is going to do what he does. We all know it and have seen it for years. There's no mystery to it. But this time, I think it pretty much depends on Medvedev. If he goes out there and just tries to simply play a good match... he's going to lose. If Medvedev goes out there with all his heart and truly wants to win it all... I think he will win it. Up until this point, I've never seen Medvedev play with real hunger.

But if he's true to his word from his press conference (and I've never heard him talk like this before), then I think he wins it.
I agree with this. I think people are underestimating Medvedev's chances due to the historicity of the potential CYGS.
 

Pandaman

Rookie
I'm actually taking Medvedev in 4 in this match. I think his form is actually better than Djokovic (and Zverev). Obviously, Djokovic is going to be probably putting on more pressure on his opponent than he ever has. The match should be great -- no matter who wins.

I watched Medvedev's press conference and I really think this match is going to come down to how badly Medvedev wants it. In his presser, he talked about how in times past, he really was already satisfied having made the final. As a result, he didn't totally feel desperation and desire to win it -- that his heart wasn't "all in". But he said in his presser that this time... he wants it. He's basically tired of losing these finals and he wants to leave it all on the court and win the third one.

Djokovic is going to do what he does. We all know it and have seen it for years. There's no mystery to it. But this time, I think it pretty much depends on Medvedev. If he goes out there and just tries to simply play a good match... he's going to lose. If Medvedev goes out there with all his heart and truly wants to win it all... I think he will win it. Up until this point, I've never seen Medvedev play with real hunger.

But if he's true to his word from his press conference (and I've never heard him talk like this before), then I think he wins it.
He said he was going to leave his heart out on the court and die for the gold medal, and we all saw how that turned out.
Med hasn't played anyone but is well rested. Novak has played good players but isn't. I think the only thing that can derail Novak tomorrow is fatigue. Medvedev is a really good player with consistent form and will be ready to pounce if that's the case.

Also, you also know you're off course when looney tunes @Vamos Rafa Nadal likes your post...just ask @Kralingen and @Devtennis01; he got off on their Zverev in 4 SF prediction. Lol.
 
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NuBas

Legend
I think the script was to make history with having a qualifier win the trophy and a veteran winning the calendar slam; contrasts each other.

2020 we saw all big three have 20, 20, 20
2021 we will see one of the big three have 21 with 2 and 1 seeds facing each other.

Say this isn't scripted.
 

Vamos Rafa Nadal

Hall of Fame
He said he was going to leave his heart out on the court and die for the gold medal, and we all saw how that turned out.
Med hasn't played anyone but is well rested. Novak has played good players but isn't. I think the only thing that can derail Novak tomorrow is fatigue. Medvedev is a really good player with consistent form and will be ready to pounce if that's the case.

Also, you also know you're off course when looney tunes @Vamos Rafa Nadal likes your post...just ask @Kralingen and @Devtennis01; he got off on their Zverev in 4 SF prediction. Lol.
Pandaman- stop attacking me. I had much less confidence in my Zverev prediction than I do in my Medvedev prediction. And it doesn't matter anyway, predictions are often wrong and it's o.k.
 

mightyrick

Legend
He said he was going to leave his heart out on the court and die for the gold medal, and we all saw how that turned out.
Med hasn't played anyone but is well rested. Novak has played good players but isn't. I think the only thing that can derail Novak tomorrow is fatigue. Medvedev is a really good player with consistent form and will be ready to pounce if that's the case.
I honestly am not counting this Olympics as proof of anything given Covid and the circumstances that the players were under. This is a totally different situation. Tokyo was so bad -- the Olympics probably shouldn't even have happened. However, I do agree that fatigue is certainly a factor for Djokovic. And outside of Nadal... Medvedev is the one player who can expose a fatigued opponent.

Also, you also know you're off course when looney tunes @Vamos Rafa Nadal likes your post...just ask @Kralingen and @Devtennis01; he got off on their Zverev in 4 SF prediction. Lol.
If two anti-Djokovic fanboys like (or don't like) my posts, it doesn't mean anything to me. I don't hate Djokovic and I've called him the GOAT for going on three years now. It doesn't invalidate anybody's opinion just because someone enters the room and farts while someone else's opinion is being spoken.
 

Tennisfan339

Professional
2 interesting stats that haven't been mentionned.
- If this final goes to 5 sets, USO 2021 will tie the (all-time) record of 5 sets. Djokovic/Zverev was the 34th. Record in 21st century was 34 (US Open 2004, now tied with 2021) Wimbledon 1969 also 34. The ultimate record is USO 1983 with 35. Djokovic-Medvedev could be the 35th.

- Just heard if Djokovic wins this, he'll beat another record with 225 wins in his career against top-10. Record was Federer with 224. Nadal has around 180.

(One more : it would be the first time EVER a player wins the USO with zero warmup... since he skipped Canada and Cincinnati. No one won this slam with zero HC match in the the US)
 

Amen786

Semi-Pro
Novak's time on court has to catch up with him eventually, right? +5.5 hours than Medvedev, about +2 hours than at AO, where he got an extra day of rest.
Djokovic seems to have unlimited stamina this year somehow.
Even at rome, after having played more than 5 hours in a day and less than a full day's rest, he was mere inches away from taking down a fully rested nadal in straight sets.
 

Pandaman

Rookie
Pandaman- stop attacking me. I had much less confidence in my Zverev prediction than I do in my Medvedev prediction. And it doesn't matter anyway, predictions are often wrong and it's o.k.
Oh please, stop acting like a victim as you post misleading stuff and take no responsibility for it. I'm one of multiple people that have called you on It. There are plenty of alternatives for you to do if you're going to say silly things and cry when someone says you're being silly. You called someone deluded earlier and are now pretending to be an angel. C'mon now. You know what you're doing. It's pretty clear something ain't right btwn the ears.

I agree about the last part, that's why I've already said that to you before, but you don't pay attention. You're too obsessed with your daily rituals I've already outlined. Be an adult and move on.
 
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Pandaman

Rookie
I honestly am not counting this Olympics as proof of anything given Covid and the circumstances that the players were under. This is a totally different situation. Tokyo was so bad -- the Olympics probably shouldn't even have happened. However, I do agree that fatigue is certainly a factor for Djokovic. And outside of Nadal... Medvedev is the one player who can expose a fatigued opponent.



If two anti-Djokovic fanboys like (or don't like) my posts, it doesn't mean anything to me. I don't hate Djokovic and I've called him the GOAT for going on three years now. It doesn't invalidate anybody's opinion just because someone enters the room and farts while someone else's opinion is being spoken.
No need to be defensive. It was a joke. I could not care less if you like or don't like Novak. I don't blame you or anyone else that does not (excluding Vamos Rafa, since I don't get how you can *hate* any player, let alone for 15 yrs). I'm not a blind fanboy that's going to defend him for his lack of regard for things like covid. I've put up a fair amount of reasons why Medvedev can win the final in previous posts. Ive enjoyed the 15 year ride and sometimes have to remind myself I'm still on it. I wanted to tell you about the similarities to the Olympics and see what you said.
 
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Pandaman

Rookie
Djokovic seems to have unlimited stamina this year somehow.
Even at rome, after having played more than 5 hours in a day and less than a full day's rest, he was mere inches away from taking down a fully rested nadal in straight sets.
I do remember this and was amazed by it. People keep talking about him clutching his back and hitting his leg vs Zverev. Do you know what they are talking about? He looked fine, if slightly weary at the end to me. I seemed to have missed it.
 
Dope!!!! You didn't know all big 3s have tons of money to do.... very scientific and legal? It doesn't matter if they collect sample or now.
Let's assume that's true (for legal reasons). Let's also assume that they all did it the same time (which they did not best guess 2005, 2011, and 2015 or 2017) if you read anything from tour de france they will say that if you allow doping, drugs help some people more than others, so they don't level the playing field. So what's the point of the fanitics? If you like Fed (his game is beutiful) fine, if you like the wall ok. My heart goes to Tsitsipas, Thiem, and the rest they are the ones robed of their dreams (hypothetically speaking).
 

Vamos Rafa Nadal

Hall of Fame
Oh please, stop acting like a victim as you post misleading stuff and take no responsibility for it. I'm one of multiple people that have called you on It. There are plenty of alternatives for you to do if you're going to say silly things and cry when someone says you're being silly. You called someone deluded earlier and are now pretending to be an angel. C'mon now. You know what you're doing. It's pretty clear something ain't right btwn the ears.

I agree about the last part, that's why I've already said that to you before, but you don't pay attention. You're too obsessed with your daily rituals I've already outlined. Be an adult and move on.
Knock it off and leave me alone. Everybody gets mad on occasion and says the wrong thing online when they are upset. I just get tired of all the "Djokovic can walk on water" posts and have just pointed out that Medvedev has a strong chance of winning, which is not the same thing as saying he definitely will win.
 

Milanez82

Hall of Fame
This is your day:
1) Make desperate and shallow projections about Novak's current opponent winning purely based on your 15 year hatred for Novak
2) Reword and repost 20 more times across 5 threads
3) Watch Novak win
4) Copy and paste the previous posts into the new matchup thread, inserting the new opponent's name
5) Repeat 1-4
Doctor prescribed it for him to overcome some issues
 

Vamos Rafa Nadal

Hall of Fame
Sometimes I post optimistic posts about Djokovic's opponents winning their match because it's what I want to have happen. Deep down inside I knew that the first five rounds were more likely to go to Djokovic and that it would come down to either Zverev or Medvedev to defeat him. Zverev had a strong chance at winning and Medvedev has a stronger chance of winning. I was right about Zverev, he was able to get to a fifth set and if he hadn't mentally checked out (and it was him checking out, not anything about Djokovic imo - Zverev isn't as mentally tough as Daniil). I did think the final would be Medvedev vs Zverev with the former winning the tournament.

Djokovic has the more difficult path to victory having to win 3 matches in a row against top 10 players where Medvedev only has to face one. We will know if Medvedev can prevail or not tonight. i sure hope he does.
 

-NN-

G.O.A.T.
I am glad this will finally be over tomorrow. I am making an incredibly bold prediction: Medvedev will win in 3 straight sets. I have noticed that when Djokovic wants to win too much he loses and implodes. Before you jump all over me please remember that predictions are speculative and we are all entitled to think one player will win over another and to interpret information (stats in this case) to make a case for one outcome over another. I think most people are predicting Djokovic due to the historicity aspect of the occasion. Medvedev has dropped only one set and you can think that doesn't matter but think otherwise. I respect people who predict Djokovic and have real reasons for it other than "he's Djokovic so therefore he will win".

I boldly predicted that Roger Federer would lose to Hubert Hurkacz in 3 straight sets at Wimbledon and I was right about it. If I am wrong about my prediction and your precious Djokovic wins so be it, it's no disgrace to be wrong about a tennis match. There's no reason to get upset about it or to ridicule someone else's prediction.

You really covered your ass with this one but I agree with you generally. I think people who get too hung up on speculative predictions who are worried about being wrong are ego trapped (and frankly missing the point).
 

Sysyphus

Talk Tennis Guru
I am glad this will finally be over tomorrow. I am making an incredibly bold prediction: Medvedev will win in 3 straight sets. I have noticed that when Djokovic wants to win too much he loses and implodes. Before you jump all over me please remember that predictions are speculative and we are all entitled to think one player will win over another and to interpret information (stats in this case) to make a case for one outcome over another. I think most people are predicting Djokovic due to the historicity aspect of the occasion. Medvedev has dropped only one set and you can think that doesn't matter but think otherwise. I respect people who predict Djokovic and have real reasons for it other than "he's Djokovic so therefore he will win".

I boldly predicted that Roger Federer would lose to Hubert Hurkacz in 3 straight sets at Wimbledon and I was right about it. If I am wrong about my prediction and your precious Djokovic wins so be it, it's no disgrace to be wrong about a tennis match. There's no reason to get upset about it or to ridicule someone else's prediction.
bookmarked for post-match ridicule, sorry
 

Vamos Rafa Nadal

Hall of Fame
bookmarked for post-match ridicule, sorry
Why ridicule? Why can't you just be happy that your guy won and leave others alone? I know if I am right I will say so but I won't gloat or say "ha ha, you were wrong!". I have come to understand that his fans are excited and want him to win so much that an intelligent discussion and an admission that he might lose is too hard for them to contemplate.
 

-NN-

G.O.A.T.
Why ridicule? Why can't you just be happy that your guy won and leave others alone? I know if I am right I will say so but I won't gloat or say "ha ha, you were wrong!". I have come to understand that his fans are excited and want him to win so much that an intelligent discussion and an admission that he might lose is too hard for them to contemplate.
He's pulling your leg (though he might still pull the trigger).
 
Novak wan't be tired
Novak was "tired" and 2-0 down in the french and still 3 hours later the greek was out of breath. Stan did it. You know how? In Au 2013 he blow him of the court when the 5th set started they were already in the 4th hour, as a result he was injured. He had only 2 chances 1 chocked serving for the 2nd set and 2 had a brake point to serve for the match but was robed. In Us 2013 He was 2-1 up when they started the 4th set, they were already in the 4th hour, as a result he was injured. He had 1 chance (up a break in the 2nd). In 2014 maybe the courts were faster, maybe he was lucky, whatever. He lost and won a quick set. As a result, when they started the 5th set they were just 2:50 min in. Stan had another solid hour and won. The he won one tight in 4, then one easier in 4, then one in 2. First you need to belive you can do it, then you need to do it once, then it becomes easier. Does Medvedev have the legs probably, does he belive had he beaten Rafa, (which he would have had the rules been followed), maybe, but I think not.
 

Mivic

Semi-Pro
I'm hearing from some posters that Djokovic was clutching his back in the latter stages of the match against Zverev. Can anyone confirm whether there is any validity to these claims? I personally didn't notice it and the comments came as a surprise to me since I felt Djokovic played his best tennis of the match in the fifth set.
 
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