2021 US Open QF: [4] Alexander Zverev vs Lloyd Harris

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

I smell fear in djoko fans.
Zverev straight setting everyone.

I will admit I don’t think Djokovic makes the final. I hope Novak proves me wrong but goldie Chainz looking imperious.

 

[Rafa.the.Magnificent]

Me - I can't predict tonight's match at all, haven't seen Berrettini at all this tournament and though Djokovic hasn't looked anywhere near his best, he's a mental beast, especially at this point in slams. Hope it's more exciting than this one was.

 

[Mr.Lob]

Dr jekyl & mr hyde. Went from angry to being (fake) nice and joking.

Thought he was a bit of an ace when Blake asked if he were going to watch the Djokovic match later on.

 

[TopspintheTerrible]

Amply helped by Zverev’s gamesmanship and stalling on SP.

The issue was raised prior to SP. And then Harris took his time to serve.

 

[TennisFan3]

I will admit I don’t think Djokovic makes the final. I hope Novak proves me wrong but goldie Chainz looking imperious.

You're overestimating Goldie Chainz bro and not having enough faith in the heavyweight champion.

 

[ark_28]

All in all marvelous performance by Zverev. He is in scary form. Absolutely unplayable right now.

He really isn’t Harris literally choked lol

 

[Djokovic_is_the_best#1]

Med could lose to FAA. Did you see their previous match - Med barely won that after being down in every set.

I said before the tournament bro that zverev and Meddy wouldn’t slip up and make it the toughest road for Novak possible. All it needs now is Meddy beating felix and he will. Felix isn’t getting 3 sets off mad lad.

 

[zvelf]

His first serve is ON FIRE. Excellent serving. Full credit for that. It's kept him in the match.

It's time for you to recognize that Zverev has one of the biggest serves in the game and for a good while now, his first serve has been on fire. He's been getting in around 70% of his first serve and winning around 80% of them. That makes him extremely tough to beat.

 

[Soul_Evisceration]

Med could lose to FAA. Did you see their previous match - Med barely won that after being down in every set.

Of course you would think Felix might beat Medvedev. No surprises from you as usual.

 

[TopspintheTerrible]

Of course you would think Felix might beat Medvedev. No surprises from you as usual.

Each analysis is just really “which outcome is best for Novak.”

 

[zvelf]

He really isn’t Harris literally choked lol

I don't think you know what the word "choke" means. Harris had to be in a position to win the match before he can choke it. That was never the case.

 

[PrinceMoron]

It's time for you to recognize that Zverev has one of the biggest serves in the game and for a good while now, his first serve has been on fire. He's been getting in around 70% of his first serve and winning around 80% of them. That makes him extremely tough to beat.

That’s the kind of tennis I like to watch

 

[ark_28]

I don't think you know what the word "choke" means. Harris had to be in a position to win the match before he can choke it. That was never the case.

Set point first set on his racket muffed it! He takes that match would have had a different feel

 

[liriel]

I don't like the grinding! Roger's variety and feel! (said by Rafa fan as well.big 3 as well)
when does the novak's game start?

 

[TopspintheTerrible]

Set point first set on his racket muffed it! He takes that match would have had a different feel

If he chokes on set point for a 2-0 lead, ok. Can’t classify it a choke for a only a 1 set lead.

 

[TennisFan3]

Of course you would think Felix might beat Medvedev. No surprises from you as usual.

Please don't misconstrue. I predict Medvedev to win and get to the final.
However I'm saying FAA does have a chance if Med's off.

 

[TennisFan3]

Set point first set on his racket muffed it! He takes that match would have had a different feel

Yeah - Harris could have won it IMO. Zed wasn't super special other than a big 1st serve.

 

[Vamos Rafa Nadal]

Well, my prediction of a Medvedev vs. Zverev final is very much still alive! Once the draw came out and they were in different halves I felt that would be the final. Two matches away for both of them for it to happen!

 

[Sampras-Bruguera 1993]

Zverev/Djoker/Med all look pretty questionable level wise. It will be interesting to see who raises the level high first.

 

[ark_28]

Yeah - Harris could have won it IMO. Zed wasn't super special other than a big 1st serve.

The way he bombed the second serve in set 3 ok it came off but to me it looked like a bail out shot that he has zero confidence in his second serve under pressure. I really don’t think a top player has anything to fear against him.

 

[ark_28]

Well, my prediction of a Medvedev vs. Zverev final is very much still alive! Once the draw came out and they were in different halves I felt that would be the final. Two matches away for both of them for it to happen!

Wish Tiafoe had made a run just to make you smile

 

[jmnk]

Harris in 4. He is UNPLAYABLE right now. Only Novak (and maybe Med) could stand with him.
Zed will maybe get a set. But I wouldn't be surprised with straight sets for Harris as well.

@TennisFan3 - do you have any more predictions coming? Can't wait.....

 

[WhiskeyEE]

Harris was taken by the occasion. Didn't loosen up until halfway through the 3rd. Should have at least taken the 1st set. And if he played well he could have pushed it 5.

 

[Jokervich]

Why is everyone saying "earths mightiest warrior, no one can beat him, Zverev choker, can't win against top 10 opposition in majors" and then they are saying "Zverev playing really well, he will win US Open, Djokovic can't beat him on the level of form he has shown"? Many contradictions

 

[TennisFan3]

The way he bombed the second serve in set 3 ok it came off but to me it looked like a bail out shot that he has zero confidence in his second serve under pressure. I really don’t think a top player has anything to fear against him.

I agree. With a shaky second serve and sitter forehand UFEs - most likely not.

 

[TennisFan3]

@TennisFan3 - do you have any more predictions coming? Can't wait.....

Yes I was wrong. But Harris completely utterly choked.
He was 5-3 in set 1 with a break. CHOKED.
He had a set pt in TB at 6-5. CHOKED.

If he wins set 1, the match completely turns. How can I predict players choking?

 

[jmnk]

Yes I was wrong. But Harris completely utterly choked.
He was 5-3 in set 1 with a break. CHOKED.
He had a set pt in TB at 6-5. CHOKED.

If he wins set 1, the match completely turns. How can I predict players choking?

Quoted for truth.

 

[sebi31]

Zverev said in interview with German Eurosport, that his back became stiff. And I do think, that this is true, because he tried to finish the rallies pretty fast in set 2 and 3.

 

[TennisFan3]

Zverev said in interview with German Eurosport, that his back became stiff. And I do think, that this is true, because he tried to finish the rallies pretty fast in set 2 and 3.

I saw that earlier also by his time - that he is carrying an injury which flares up in the back during the matches. It could be decisive vs Novak.

 

[Raul_SJ]

Yes I was wrong. But Harris completely utterly choked.
He was 5-3 in set 1 with a break. CHOKED.
He had a set pt in TB at 6-5. CHOKED.

If he wins set 1, the match completely turns. How can I predict players choking?

Harris is a disgrace. Rafa almost beat him in D.C. with one foot.
Who were the dunderheads touting this clown?

 

[liriel]

Zverev injured. Who will win Nitto Finals in Turin this year? Whose turn it it?
Im missing Rafa but I see he doesn't miss tennis too much.

 

[TennisFan3]

Harris is a disgrace. Rafa almost beat him in D.C. with one foot.
Who were the dunderheads touting this clown?

I'm guilty of that. But Harris was playing awesome tennis. I think he was unlucky today and obviously choked a bunch too.
If he won the 1st set, this match could be totally different.

 

[Poisoned Slice]

Desperate highs, terrifying lows and creamy middles.

 

[Raul_SJ]

Zverev injured.

Who says Zed is injured?

 

[romeo8880]

Me - I can't predict tonight's match at all, haven't seen Berrettini at all this tournament and though Djokovic hasn't looked anywhere near his best, he's a mental beast, especially at this point in slams. Hope it's more exciting than this one was.

I think you will be disappointed by Berrettini. He’s been making lots of errors all tournament. Had Otte not gotten hurt he may have lost that match.

 

[kishnabe]

Zverev injured. Who will win Nitto Finals in Turin this year? Whose turn it it?
Im missing Rafa but I see he doesn't miss tennis too much.

Berretini turn.

 

[Deleted member 629564]

Who will win Nitto Finals in Turin this year? Whose turn it it?

Either Ruud or Hurkacz. They fit.

 

[Rafa.the.Magnificent]

I think you will be disappointed by Berrettini. He’s been making lots of errors all tournament. Had Otte not gotten hurt he may have lost that match.

Can't wait till showtime! It's kind of strange anyway, I don't have a grasp on exactly how good I think Berrettini is or isn't from the different times I've seen him. Maybe tonight I can evaluate better.

 

[Aabye5]

Either Ruud or Hurkacz. They fit.

What? Ruud?

Hurkacz maybe...

 

[BeatlesFan]

It's time for you to recognize that Zverev has one of the biggest serves in the game and for a good while now, his first serve has been on fire. He's been getting in around 70% of his first serve and winning around 80% of them. That makes him extremely tough to beat.

But he's playing with little pressure since he's not playing formidable competition. Playing against Djokovic in a slam semi with the CGYS on the line is another realm of pressure entirely. The aces that flew untouched past Harris today will be returned at Zverev's feet by Novak.

 

[stringertom]

Who says Zed is injured?

We are very disappointed in y’all, Dr. Raul. Usually y’all are up on all matters at the moment things happen. It was widely reported on Monday, two days ago, before the Sinner R16 that Zedraffe had to stop his pre-match practice to receive treatment on a balky back. Maybe y’all should Twitter follow experts like @NickMcCarvel so y’all can continue to be as well informed as y’all have been in the past. Please do the needful so the thousands that follow y’all don’t become disappointed.

 

[zvelf]

But he's playing with little pressure since he's not playing formidable competition. Playing against Djokovic in a slam semi with the CGYS on the line is another realm of pressure entirely. The aces that flew untouched past Harris today will be returned at Zverev's feet by Novak.

I'm not saying he's going to beat Djokovic. I'm just saying his serve during the Olympics and here gives him a lot of free points and makes him really tough to beat. Djokovic is the favorite, but if Zverev gets 30+ aces, Zverev will probably win.

 

[EllieK]

I didn’t like the gamesmanship by Zverev right before Harris had to serve on set point. I don’t think Harris would have won the match anyway but that was decidedly not cool.

 

[Deleted member 629564]

I didn’t like the gamesmanship by Zverev right before Harris had to serve on set point. I don’t think Harris would have won the match anyway but that was decidedly not cool.

How Djokovic would have reacted being in Harris' shoes? What do you think?

 

[EllieK]

How Djokovic would have reacted being in Harris' shoes? What do you think?

Also how Zverev would have reacted if Harris did the same to him.

 

[EllieK]

Zverev/Djoker/Med all look pretty questionable level wise. It will be interesting to see who raises the level high first.

Berrettini has also been questionable level.

 

[stringertom]

How Djokovic would have reacted being in Harris' shoes? What do you think?

What would The Lone Wolf do?, no?

 

[Deleted member 629564]

Also how Zverev would have reacted if Harris did the same to him.

What would The Lone Wolf do?, no?

I think both Djokovic and Zverev would have stopped play to start a row with the umpire. Just to resume play on their own terms. Pros guidebook.

 

[Bubcay]

Zverev is indeed good. His serve is his strongest weapon. Having said that, I do not think he is an insurmountable obstacle for Djokovic even when the latter is not at his best (like this whole tournament). I am 90% sure Djokovic will win if he manages to get through Berrettini today. I have no idea how good Berrettini is at US Open as I have not seen any of his matches, so that is an unknown for me.

 

[jmnk]

Yes I was wrong. But Harris completely utterly choked.
He was 5-3 in set 1 with a break. CHOKED.
He had a set pt in TB at 6-5. CHOKED.

If he wins set 1, the match completely turns. How can I predict players choking?

What do you mean?? Your _entire reasoning_ here was based on you predicting Zverev would choke. That while he has the skills he always chokes. And now you are saying there's no way to predict a player will choke?

and of course no one choke here. Zverev was simply far better player. Harris being a break up _once_ during the entire match and not winning is not choking - it's being not better. Having _one_ set point and not converting is not choking - it's being not better.