2021 USTA League Official Thread.

sovertennis

Professional
Good thread idea, Jolly.

I speculate that league tennis will be discontinued unless and until a vaccine is developed, is in widespread use, and the case count sinks so low that it's no longer a prevailing issue in everyday life. Will that happen in 2021? Unlikely.

The club at which I'm member has implemented some inter-club "leagues". That may be the substitute for USTA leagues and tourneys for many months. Without taking in dues and league fees, I wonder if the USTA will survive.
 

OnTheLine

Hall of Fame
Good thread idea, Jolly.

I speculate that league tennis will be discontinued unless and until a vaccine is developed, is in widespread use, and the case count sinks so low that it's no longer a prevailing issue in everyday life. Will that happen in 2021? Unlikely.

The club at which I'm member has implemented some inter-club "leagues". That may be the substitute for USTA leagues and tourneys for many months. Without taking in dues and league fees, I wonder if the USTA will survive.
Why is that?
We have had leagues here since 1st week of June. Our 18+ gender and mixed seasons just wrapped up and our fall leagues start in a few weeks.

Perhaps in regions that are indoor-play only ... but if outside I cannot see the problem.



My guesses:
No bumps will occur for 2020 aside from those handful of players grossly out of level.
Therefore, there will be a wider range of players at each level... the low of a level will be lower and the best of a level will be higher. In 2021 we will see more blow-out scorelines.

I am guessing that sectionals/nationals may still be problematic due to the travel involved.

When some areas cancel sectionals, the brainiacs at USTA will devise an advanced method to determine the team that will advance to nationals from those sections. Combination of lottery, coin toss and 10-sided dice rolls.
 

ATX Tennis

New User
Good thread idea, Jolly.

I speculate that league tennis will be discontinued unless and until a vaccine is developed, is in widespread use, and the case count sinks so low that it's no longer a prevailing issue in everyday life. Will that happen in 2021? Unlikely.

The club at which I'm member has implemented some inter-club "leagues". That may be the substitute for USTA leagues and tourneys for many months. Without taking in dues and league fees, I wonder if the USTA will survive.
We are playing USTA in Texas and have been for months. I’m fairly certain that USTA will be played in 2021 and there will be sectionals/nationals. Some people may opt out, but I’m sure they will have enough that want to do it.
 

time_fly

Hall of Fame
USTA is organizing its usual early start 2021 leagues in CT. Generally speaking the men seem willing to participate but I’ve heard that there are a lot of women who won’t play.
 

socallefty

Professional
Southern California USTA originally said in June that they would restart the Winter league, play the remaining matches in July/August and then start new Fall leagues in September. But, since they did not restart the Winter league and the local OCTA coordinator has gone stone-cold silent about deadlines for signing up teams for the Fall league, I‘m starting to wonder if there will be any USTA tennis here in Orange County this year.

It is a pity because my club re-opened after the quarantine in early May and we have been playing without any on-court restrictions (wear masks outside) since then including singles, doubles, coaching lessons and group drills. It is well-understood that outdoor tennis is quite safe as the sport naturally promotes social distancing during play. So, I don’t know why the local OC USTA league doesn’t get its act together when leagues in other parts of the country are playing. Also local women‘s weekday leagues like PacSun are scheduled to start play in a couple of weeks.
 
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zipplock

Hall of Fame
Does anyone else find it ironic that USTA shut down tennis because it wasn't safe, but now are running ads promoting playing tennis because it's the perfect activity for social distancing?
We started league play here in July. Fall season starts mid-September. I don't see them stopping again.
 

OnTheLine

Hall of Fame
Does anyone else find it ironic that USTA shut down tennis because it wasn't safe, but now are running ads promoting playing tennis because it's the perfect activity for social distancing?
We started league play here in July. Fall season starts mid-September. I don't see them stopping again.
Not exactly irony .... but when they shut things down in March we had certain information .... that became clarified and updated over the first months and we have a better understanding now. Certainly playing outdoors in a league setting is pretty well socially distant.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
So, I don’t know why the local USTA league doesn’t get its act together when leagues in other parts of the country are playing.
Are there any USTA leagues currently playing in CA?
Maybe the Governor has issued some order banning play.
 

WildVolley

Legend
Are there any USTA leagues currently playing in CA?
Maybe the Governor has issued some order banning play.
In June, my USTA area sent an email saying they'd hold most of the spring league in fall. But since then, nothing. Seems my 4.5 league has been cancelled (says so on tennislink and the captain sent a text).

From what I understand, the private clubs are holding up the league because many still don't allow visiting teams or doubles, but the communication about the issues has been scant. There's a rumor that teams will be playing in south county, but I haven't confirmed that.

I've hit or played against most of my teammates in the past three months, but I'm not expecting any league until 2021.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
In June, my USTA area sent an email saying they'd hold most of the spring league in fall.
It appears that for leagues to start up in CA requires:

(1) Approval from local County Health authorities.
(2) Approval from the local USTA Section.
(3) Approval from all the local clubs involved in the league.

#3 is further complicated because some local clubs use indoor courts and I believe all indoor gyms/courts in CA are currently ordered closed by the Governor... And as you mentioned some clubs prohibit doubles. There are even situations where cities in the same county have different policies posted on the public courts. One might allow doubles play and the other restricts doubles.
Local Updates
The health and safety of the entire tennis community is our top priority. As of June 1, the suspension of USTA Sanctioned products and events is now at the discretion of the USTA Sections and local health authorities.
 
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WhiteOut

Semi-Pro
been playing leagues all summer here in Indy since they spun up an 'alternative' (non-advancing) leagues...all-flights, men and women are participating...both indoors and outdoors. M/W combo leagues, and and 2021 M/W 40+ flights start late Sept/early Oct. Participation is a little bit thinner than normal, but mostly, i'm seeing all the regulars and several new faces too. On the two teams I cap, I only have one guy who won't play indoors, otherwise he's game-on.
 

brettatk

Semi-Pro
We've been playing since June. Both our 18+ and 40+ are entering playoffs. Been kind of a pain to have both going concurrently. But at least we're out there playing.
 

schmke

Hall of Fame
PNW had a fun summer league and our Fall early start leagues are scheduled and in TennisLink so it appears we will play. 18+ Mixed and 55+ Adult. Note that we are scheduled to play indoors and have a pretty strict protocol for arriving/departing and no spectators and a change to timed matches to get players on/off court at designated times. I believe the USTA and/or clubs worked with Governor's offices to get it all ok'd, but if players start violating the process it could all come crashing down.
 

Idrayer

New User
I'm almost certain that I played a Tri-level match there yesterday; a match was played but whether I played in it or just stood there and watched the ball fly by me for an hour is debatable. I've also seen that San Gabriel Valley is organizing a singles Tri-Level league that is supposed to start in the next couple of weeks, but I don't have personal experience with that one.
 

schmke

Hall of Fame
I'm almost certain that I played a Tri-level match there yesterday; a match was played but whether I played in it or just stood there and watched the ball fly by me for an hour is debatable. I've also seen that San Gabriel Valley is organizing a singles Tri-Level league that is supposed to start in the next couple of weeks, but I don't have personal experience with that one.
Yes, there are some matches being played in SoCal. I did a report for someone in SGV this weekend, and I see some matches played in San Diego and Los Angeles as well.
 
USTA southern still going strong, just finished one round of TN state, others TN state finals will be later this month, combo and mixed still mid season.
 

WildVolley

Legend
Yes, San Diego is playing.
@Raul_SJ The over-18 men's 4.5 league in North County which had been rescheduled to fall has been canceled. I've heard rumors that the league in South County is still going to happen, but no confirmation yet.

TennisLink had me on a hypothetical tri-level team during the summer (I never signed up for one) but there is no evidence that any matches took place.

The over-40 league played during winter last year. I assume that's still up in the air.
 
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mrravioli

Semi-Pro
Does anyone else find it ironic that USTA shut down tennis because it wasn't safe, but now are running ads promoting playing tennis because it's the perfect activity for social distancing?
We started league play here in July. Fall season starts mid-September. I don't see them stopping again.
It’s not just tennis. Similar story everywhere. The economy is collapsing and compared to that 1 or 2% people’s death is no big deal
 

jonnyjack

Semi-Pro
So is my USTA membership going to be extended? Norcal will not have any leagues in 2020 per the email they sent me right now. I picked the wrong time to renew it for 3 years last year. The 2nd year of the subscription is now shot and the 3rd is iffy. Every year, I say I'm going to quit USTA. Maybe I will do that now haha.
 

Papa Mango

Semi-Pro
And a few areas have early start 2021 leagues and those have been postponed as well.
Correct.
"USTA NorCal has made the difficult decision to cancel all 2020 Adult Leagues, and postpone the 2021 Early-Start Leagues."
"Subject to change, the Adult League team is planning to start the 2021 Leagues in January"

But they are offering the singles only Fall Flex.

I'mma gonna start working out to get ready for 2022 league..
 

jonnyjack

Semi-Pro
I replied to Norcal's email for the cancellation of the 2020 league year asking if my membership was going to be extended. This was their response:

Thank you for your email. There have been discussions focused around membership at the National level. NorCal staff expect there to be an announcement from National addressing membership concerns in the coming weeks.
 

serveandvolE

New User
Does anybody know if there is going to be NTRP ratings movement at the end of the year for Norcal? Some players did get a handful of matches in before the shutdown.
 
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socallefty

Professional
USTA sent me a tennis cap (navy with white USTA logo) today for being a member. At least I got something for renewing my membership a couple of months ago. It doesn’t look like I will play any league matches in 2020 as the start of the Fall league in Orange County keeps getting delayed and the usual Men‘s team captains at my club don’t want to register and captain teams right now.

That includes me as I think it will be a hassle to get team members and opponents to follow all the local health rules which my club requires and we can’t socialize over beer/at the bar after matches which is a big reason why many players sign up to play. Many of the players on my previous teams are working from home and we are playing socially more often than we used to do - so, not having league matches is not as much of a loss.
 

JLyon

Hall of Fame
playing leagues and tournaments since early July here with no issues. I have officiated 6 tournaments with no issues or positive cases as well. I am in AR where we have seen periodic spikes. People are just being smart
 

zipplock

Hall of Fame
playing leagues and tournaments since early July here with no issues. I have officiated 6 tournaments with no issues or positive cases as well. I am in AR where we have seen periodic spikes. People are just being smart
I've been travelling for work continuously, and my observation is that there are 2 Americas. One is in lock down, everything is cancelled. The other is business as usual, precautions left to the individual. Within different States there are areas that belong to each of these categories. To highlight this, I was in Miami this week with a colleague. Miami just moved to Phase 2 on Monday. Everyone is in full PPE, etc. Yesterday that same colleague and I were in Naples. Very few people are using PPE expect when in stores that require them. We were having coffee in a nice coffee shop, no one using PPE, life as usual. He was freaking out. His only point of reference was Miami. He was shocked to learn that other areas approach things differently. The espresso was incredible by the way.
Anyway, where I live we wrapped up our summer league and fall league begins next week :)
 

OnTheLine

Hall of Fame
@zipplock mentions that there are 2 Americas .... I think that especially as Fall approaches that will be even more the case for tennis players.

Those of us who play outdoors solely .... it is business as usual. Our leagues are packed with what looks like more players than usual ... there is nothing else to do of course!
Those that play only indoor ... I will venture to guess that if cases spike as the weather cools that areas may be even more locked down.

@Cindysphinx I am not entirely okay with playing indoors. If a mask was required to play .. man, I don't know. Can definitely see why your teams all folded.
 

J_R_B

Hall of Fame
We've had tournaments running since June and the 2021 mixed season started last weekend. They created a fall mixed league this year starting in September (usually mixed season is just winter - Nov-Mar) so that they could have some matches outdoors before it gets too cold. The state restrictions in PA are on the more strict side, but the virus community spread is also pretty well under control right now, so I'm hopeful that we'll be able to keep playing.
 

Diablo XP

New User
Does anyone else find it ironic that USTA shut down tennis because it wasn't safe, but now are running ads promoting playing tennis because it's the perfect activity for social distancing?
We started league play here in July. Fall season starts mid-September. I don't see them stopping again.
Sure do. Nothing pisses me off more than the "let's get back to tennis" commercials that they are running. As if if it was taken away from us all somehow. THEY are the ones that made the recommendation to the Federal Government that tennis should be shut down. THEY are the ones that stated the virus will aerosolize on the balls. Total crap. They should be ashamed. At least say "we may have over-reacted and want to get things going again" Not act like it was taken from us by force and they were fighting against the restrictions. Ridiculous.
 

J_R_B

Hall of Fame
Sure do. Nothing pisses me off more than the "let's get back to tennis" commercials that they are running. As if if it was taken away from us all somehow. THEY are the ones that made the recommendation to the Federal Government that tennis should be shut down. THEY are the ones that stated the virus will aerosolize on the balls. Total crap. They should be ashamed. At least say "we may have over-reacted and want to get things going again" Not act like it was taken from us by force and they were fighting against the restrictions. Ridiculous.
I'm willing to cut them a little slack on this one. They shut it down in the middle of a national health crisis when even the scientific/medical community didn't know what to expect. As they learned more, they determined that tennis (especially outside) is not a risky activity, so they opened it up again. At the time in March/April, I don't blame anyone for being cautious.
 

Moveforwardalways

Hall of Fame
Sure do. Nothing pisses me off more than the "let's get back to tennis" commercials that they are running. As if if it was taken away from us all somehow. THEY are the ones that made the recommendation to the Federal Government that tennis should be shut down. THEY are the ones that stated the virus will aerosolize on the balls. Total crap. They should be ashamed. At least say "we may have over-reacted and want to get things going again" Not act like it was taken from us by force and they were fighting against the restrictions. Ridiculous.
The nation was dealing with a pandemic of a novel virus. They did the right thing to err on the side of caution.
 

sureshs

Bionic Poster
Sure do. Nothing pisses me off more than the "let's get back to tennis" commercials that they are running. As if if it was taken away from us all somehow. THEY are the ones that made the recommendation to the Federal Government that tennis should be shut down. THEY are the ones that stated the virus will aerosolize on the balls. Total crap. They should be ashamed. At least say "we may have over-reacted and want to get things going again" Not act like it was taken from us by force and they were fighting against the restrictions. Ridiculous.
Private clubs and public courts were shut down in many places by government orders, not USTA.

You seem to be one of the science-denial crowd, proudly shouting in hindsight when in reality all precautions had to be taken when fighting a dangerous unknown virus.

Tennis is not important compared to the consequences of a pandemic.
 

Traffic

Hall of Fame
So far so good with 18+ MXD league play. I've noticed different clubs have different interpretations of local "safe start" order by the State. Our club is taking it to the letter of the law. Many clubs have taken on most but still relaxed in other ways. We are predominantly indoor tennis in the PNW. It probably wasn't as big a deal during the summer. But in about a week or so, the rains should start and it'll get dark at 6pm.

Hoping everything stays healthy and safe and we can have 40+ gender league starting up in the winter.
 

Diablo XP

New User
Private clubs and public courts were shut down in many places by government orders, not USTA.

You seem to be one of the science-denial crowd, proudly shouting in hindsight when in reality all precautions had to be taken when fighting a dangerous unknown virus.

Tennis is not important compared to the consequences of a pandemic.
You don't know what you are talking about. I'm not in the science-denial crowd so don't make that assumption. I stated the commercial pisses me off because it comes across as if tennis was taken from us by some entity besides USTA and they were fighting against that. The fact of the matter remains that those "government orders" you are referencing were implemented after consulting the USTA and their early recommendation to shut all tennis down. THEY were the ones that shut it down. That was totally prudent and safe. No argument there. You understand? Just don't create a commercial 6 mos later acting like you had nothing to do with it and urging people to start playing again. Full disclosure..........I AM in the "people shouldn't be so petrified of everything crowd" That has nothing to do with science or denial.
 
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