2021 Vienna 500 QF: [4] Casper Ruud (NOR) vs [7] Jannik Sinner (ITA)
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stringertom
Bionic Poster
You almost tricked me into a Ruud awakening!
stringertom
Bionic Poster
You reading my 60’s Weed reference from this afternoon?
Jack the Hack
Hall of Fame
Hahaha... yeah, the only option that has Sinner winning is the "Sinner in 3" option, so that is what I chose.
I got to watch Casper Ruud hit in person for the first time at Indian Wells a couple weeks back and he's got some beautiful strokes. I have Scandinavian roots, so I generally go for players from that region:
That said, Sinner is my guy and unless he has one of those surprisingly bad service days again, I think he's got to be favored in this upcoming match.
(Also, I watched Ruud's loss to Schwartzman in IW and Ruud was not 100% physically. He was strapped up in several places, including his elbow. I'm not sure if that is healed... and he had a long tough match against Sonego today.)
I got to watch Casper Ruud hit in person for the first time at Indian Wells a couple weeks back and he's got some beautiful strokes. I have Scandinavian roots, so I generally go for players from that region:
That said, Sinner is my guy and unless he has one of those surprisingly bad service days again, I think he's got to be favored in this upcoming match.
(Also, I watched Ruud's loss to Schwartzman in IW and Ruud was not 100% physically. He was strapped up in several places, including his elbow. I'm not sure if that is healed... and he had a long tough match against Sonego today.)
James P
G.O.A.T.
I'm a sponge
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Well, Spongejames, do you wear square pants and live in Bikini Bottom???
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
It depends most on the Sinner serve. If he does well there it will be very difficult for Ruud who made huge strides on HC. Compare his recent run to his overall record. Better in any way.
Career Tour-Level Splits Top
Last 52 Weeks Tour-Level Splits Top
The Sinner was of course the better hard-court player with a far better return game on it but the Ruud serve was overall far better, arguably more so because it was more dependable. Recent form means a lot of course. On Clay Ruud would be the favorite after his excellent showings. Sinner played little and run often quickly into the best which harms his sample size and percentages.
Last 52 Weeks Tour-Level Splits Top
Career Tour-Level Splits Top
Split | M | W | L | Win% | Set W-L | Set% | Game W-L | Game% | TB W-L | TB% | MS | Hld% | Brk% | A% | DF% | 1stIn | 1st% | 2nd% | SPW | RPW | TPW | DR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hard | 61 | 29 | 32 | 47.5% | 73-81 | 47.4% | 760-749 | 50.4% | 4-19 | 17.4% | 59 | 82.3% | 18.9% | 6.7% | 3.0% | 65.4% | 71.5% | 53.0% | 65.1% | 34.5% | 50.0% | 0.99 |
| Clay | 105 | 75 | 30 | 71.4% | 161-85 | 65.4% | 1310-1022 | 56.2% | 17-10 | 63.0% | 102 | 82.7% | 28.0% | 5.3% | 3.1% | 65.0% | 70.8% | 55.2% | 65.3% | 39.6% | 52.4% | 1.14 |
Last 52 Weeks Tour-Level Splits Top
Split | M | W | L | Win% | Set W-L | Set% | Game W-L | Game% | TB W-L | TB% | MS | Hld% | Brk% | A% | DF% | 1stIn | 1st% | 2nd% | SPW | RPW | TPW | DR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hard | 28 | 18 | 10 | 64.3% | 42-25 | 62.7% | 355-297 | 54.4% | 3-6 | 33.3% | 26 | 86.5% | 22.3% | 8.0% | 2.4% | 64.7% | 74.2% | 56.3% | 67.9% | 36.1% | 52.0% | 1.12 |
| Clay | 34 | 29 | 5 | 85.3% | 60-18 | 76.9% | 442-296 | 59.9% | 7-2 | 77.8% | 33 | 86.3% | 32.1% | 5.7% | 2.9% | 63.5% | 72.6% | 58.8% | 67.6% | 42.3% | 54.5% | 1.30 |
The Sinner was of course the better hard-court player with a far better return game on it but the Ruud serve was overall far better, arguably more so because it was more dependable. Recent form means a lot of course. On Clay Ruud would be the favorite after his excellent showings. Sinner played little and run often quickly into the best which harms his sample size and percentages.
Last 52 Weeks Tour-Level Splits Top
Split | M | W | L | Win% | Set W-L | Set% | Game W-L | Game% | TB W-L | TB% | MS | Hld% | Brk% | A% | DF% | 1stIn | 1st% | 2nd% | SPW | RPW | TPW | DR |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Hard | 53 | 41 | 12 | 77.4% | 88-35 | 71.5% | 697-554 | 55.7% | 19-8 | 70.4% | 50 | 85.2% | 25.3% | 6.4% | 2.8% | 59.4% | 73.6% | 55.8% | 66.4% | 39.5% | 52.8% | 1.18 |
| Clay | 16 | 10 | 6 | 62.5% | 23-17 | 57.5% | 201-184 | 52.2% | 3-2 | 60.0% | 16 | 74.9% | 29.5% | 4.4% | 2.3% | 60.9% | 66.1% | 53.5% | 61.2% | 40.9% | 51.0% | 1.05 |
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Slicehand
Guest
I hope sinner goes trough, want to see him against the other guys
junior74
Bionic Poster
If Ruud was still in his San Diago form, I'd go for him in straights. Such a strong run.
Probably Sinner today. Ruud looks a little off, physically, not going all in with the forehand. On the other hand, he has become a lot more consistent this year, and goes through a lot of games cruising.
Probably Sinner today. Ruud looks a little off, physically, not going all in with the forehand. On the other hand, he has become a lot more consistent this year, and goes through a lot of games cruising.
James P
G.O.A.T.
Got fixed. Thank you, admins!
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Vamos Rafa Nadal
Guest
Really hoping for Ruud to win this match. At least let it be a close match either way and not a blow-out!
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
On a ruud to nowhere?
Jack the Hack
Hall of Fame
I just noticed that Sinner and Ruud have played once before. Sinner beat Casper in straight sets... last year... in Vienna. I hope that there is a repeat.
TheAssassin
G.O.A.T.
Sinner found all the corners when needed. Consolidates the early break.
Forgive Me Father
Hall of Fame
Jannik clinches the first set.
Great quality set.
Ruud forehand a bit harder than usual.
Great quality set.
Ruud forehand a bit harder than usual.
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
Fairly balanced match but the guy with greater power and better serve. It seems to me that Casper choose risk it on the first. However his second works very well and his game plan too.
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
Maybe Sinner should change it up for his second serves...
Ruud reading and returning them well...
Ruud reading and returning them well...
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Slicehand
Guest
he doesnt seem to have to do much to win this match
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Slicehand
Guest
that was one of the worst second serves ive ever seen
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
He does a lot very well but one can always improve.
Smart play on the longer rallies by Jan, he has more power and similar wheels so he should pressure patiently...
Smart play on the longer rallies by Jan, he has more power and similar wheels so he should pressure patiently...
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
Sinner is in the zone.
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
Aces do help. Right now he serves on a regular basis much better then before.
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Vamos Rafa Nadal
Guest
Why do I have the feeling we will get a Sinner-Alcaraz final? And then it will be repeated at the Next Gen ATP final too?
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
Changed his action.
Less, kneebend and serve than last year. Better pace and flatter 1st serve. Big edge
Forgive Me Father
Hall of Fame
There is no chance Sinner plays the Next Gen Finals when he will play the real ATP Finals.
But the Final here will be Zverev - Sinner.
chrischris
G.O.A.T.
Dont know why. I dont... Sascha and Sinner to my mind in the final
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
We will see fire & ice often enough in the future...
Baseline_Bungle
Legend
I REALLY doubt Sinner will be at Next Gens
stringertom
Bionic Poster
So much no in this post:
Stopped pinpoint motion with wider feet starting stance; switched to platform (fedr style) with more knee bend and compression below the waist for coil before launch and increased racquet head lag time during full load and release of the shoulder to MOI. This enables better RHS, the key to either flat or spin serves.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
LOL! Sinner is scheduled to play Stockholm the same week as Milan. It may or may not be key to getting IN at TorINo.
stringertom
Bionic Poster
You’re asking a player with 0
IQ and variety to change up something mid-match? Preposterous!
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
Shocking net game too, bad movement obviously. Look how the lad walks!
Stupits to change his servemotions. Arrogant to avoid the Olympics in his form slump.
He really leave Piatti and the rest of the fools...
Stupits to change his servemotions. Arrogant to avoid the Olympics in his form slump.
He really leave Piatti and the rest of the fools...
stringertom
Bionic Poster
Just luck. Ruud is the superior player due to his ATP DNA genes inherited from an ATP player/father rather than a chef/father.
Rovesciarete
Hall of Fame
Frankly I like the Norwegian, excellent work ethic and love his progression. Will have more success in years to come.
Great to see Jan improving as well and so quickly too.
Great to see Jan improving as well and so quickly too.
Jack the Hack
Hall of Fame
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Slicehand
Guest
To me sinner is a great player, a lot of precision and power off both wings with consistency also, great angles too, he is not about going to the net or mixing things up which is something i most enjoy about tennis, but its just a play style, when he cant find his A game he is a bit lost ( which is more or less something that qualifies as tennis iQ) but its completly normal at 20, i dont even care about the serve, its not bad and its the thing that will get better easier, now thats my real take, not that hes a mindless ball basher or that hes dumb, i hope that clarifies everything and that it is better put
Pmasterfunk
Hall of Fame
Sinner confirmed servebot
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