2021 WTA Indian Wells

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
She's not used to playing professional tennis period! Was doing her A levels this spring, Sasnovich has entered like 25 tournaments this season. She could tank all the way back down to world #125 by next year and would still be ahead of schedule.

Sasnovich now serving for the match. Just not good enough from Raducanu tonight, her FH has gotten exposed heavily.
I actually don't know why everyone is surprised or should I say acting surprised with this performance. Sasnovich after a bye in a tournament Raducanu has never played was always going to be a tough examination. It is a loss that came out of inexperience and impatience. That is OK and entirely understandable. She didn't get shown up as 'fake' like Bouchard in 2014. When she found her range, she was able to fire aces, hit missile returns and groundie winners et al. But the sum of the parts never added up today because her mind was agitated. A loss like this was always on the cards after a dream run like USO. Nobody is going to problem solve perfectly every day.
 

fundrazer

Legend
Hmm. If Pegula stomps here I think I'll go 7/8 in one of the free pickem pools. Should be good for a few bucks.
 

Nostradamus

Bionic Poster
I predicted this,,, as Genius that i am. Emma orginally didn't want to play this event. It is a long flight from england and surface is super slow,,, and even Slower at night. and this doesn't suit her game well. This was very predictable
 

Kralingen

Legend
I actually don't know why everyone is surprised or should I say acting surprised with this performance. Sasnovich after a bye in a tournament Raducanu has never played was always going to be a tough examination. It is a loss that came out of inexperience and impatience. That is OK and entirely understandable. She didn't get shown up as 'fake' like Bouchard in 2014. When she found her range, she was able to fire aces, hit missile returns and groundie winners et al. But the sum of the parts never added up today because her mind was agitated. A loss like this was always on the cards after a dream run like USO. Nobody is going to problem solve perfectly every day.
You make some very thoughtful and measured points… although honestly she seemed uncomfortable because of the slower surface more than everything else. It’s probably her first time ever on a surface this slow at night. Technical stuff always comes first for me and the inability to hit through the surface was the largest issue. Power deficit is an issue with her imo.

However you failed to mention that she WENT TO THE MET GALA and WATCHED A MOVIE and POSTED ON INSTAGRAM. As we all know, these off court distractions are simply unacceptable for professional players.
 

tin

Rookie
Didnt expect her to win all matches she has since USO, but didnt expect her to be out of IW this early too.
 

TennisFan3

G.O.A.T.
People were making threads of Emma R with 10 slams. LOL.
Things change fast in tennis.
If you just look at percentages it is more likely that Emma R never wins another slam, than it is for her to be #1 and multi slam winner.
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
You make some very thoughtful and measured points… although honestly she seemed uncomfortable because of the slower surface more than everything else. It’s probably her first time ever on a surface this slow at night. Technical stuff always comes first for me and the inability to hit through the surface was the largest issue. Power deficit is an issue with her imo.

However you failed to mention that she WENT TO THE MET GALA and WATCHED A MOVIE and POSTED ON INSTAGRAM. As we all know, these off court distractions are simply unacceptable for professional players.
I think she will learn to hit through when she learns to be patient and stop pressing. The copious errors also came from her pressing. And when you press, you lose the beautiful form that she is already gifted with. She will have to accept that on slower surfaces, she will not only have to settle for longer rallies but also use more guile (like the brilliant drop shot Sasnovich came up with in the game in which she served for the match). And Raducanu is capable of both. She is young and slender so becoming an on court Energizer bunny should not be a problem for her and she also has the drop shot in her arsenal anyway. In a certain sense, she got obsessed with hitting through Sasnovich today and lost the very thing that made her game work at the USO. It was thoughtless execution as opposed to the thoughtfulness of USO. And again, I am not surprised. The only way the script would have played out differently would have been if Sasnovich started badly and Raducanu got a free ride through the first set. But it's good that that didn't happen. Murray said after the USO that Raducanu should think about the close games where she managed to squeeze holds or secure breaks and the mistakes she made in those games and how to rectify them. So this loss should serve as a humbling lesson and a timely reminder that more work is to be done. I was looking at how Raducanu was reacting to the match and she looked disgusted with herself rather than dazed in a "this was not part of the script" way. So hopefully that suggests she has learnt the right lesson from this match - that she didn't play well. And that she will have to learn to grind through tight matches on days when her game doesn't work like a dream.
 

Aussie Darcy

Bionic Poster
Put some good money on Sasnovich. Still can’t get over the hype she got considering she didn’t play a top 10 player at the USO.
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
Slow court really helps her imo
They are opposites that way. Swiatek loves that extra time to run around to wind up a big, big forehand. Raducanu loves to feed off the pace of the court. It will be interesting to see how Fernandez copes because her game too, on the face of it, is wired to use pace very efficiently more so than to make pace of one's own. Will she show more versatility? She should have it a bit easier against Cornet but we'll see.
 

Harry_Wild

G.O.A.T.
Raducanu just made to many changes in a month time! Raducanu should of not entered this tournament IMO! She has lost a lot of marketing value by loosing in her opening round!
 

fundrazer

Legend
I dunno why I didn't even look at this Pegula match. She's been playing at a much higher level and more consistently than Sloane. Oh well.
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
Raducanu just made to many changes in a month time! Raducanu should of not entered this tournament IMO! She has lost a lot of marketing value by loosing in her opening round!
Has it occurred to you that she cares more about learning, including the hard way, about tennis than marketing value? No point cocooning herself in fast court tournaments. She needs to get with the beat, get to the mainstream of the tour and deal with players like Sasnovich. She will grow a muscle or two in the process.
 

Mark-Touch

Hall of Fame
Raducanu just made to many changes in a month time! Raducanu should of not entered this tournament IMO! She has lost a lot of marketing value by loosing in her opening round!
I haven't been following her since the U.S. Open. What changes has she made?
 

tennis4me

Hall of Fame
Fernandez is playing with very high level of confidence and level - just like in her US Open Final. OTOH, Emma looked nervous from the beginning. Emma's all-out first-strike returns is impressive when it's on, but when it's not, she didn't have any plan B and started piling up UE trying to force immediate winners on a serve return.

Lots of things to learn still for Emma.

I have now revised her GS titles projection to 9 instead of 10 like what TTW projects. :p
 

tin

Rookie
Fernandez is playing with very high level of confidence and level - just like in her US Open Final. OTOH, Emma looked nervous from the beginning. Emma's all-out first-strike returns is impressive when it's on, but when it's not, she didn't have any plan B and started piling up UE trying to force immediate winners on a serve return.

Lots of things to learn still for Emma.

I have now revised her GS titles projection to 9 instead of 10 like what TTW projects. :p
Yeah, I feel like her style seems quite one-dimensional in that if something's not going well for her, she doesnt have a lot to work with.
 

fundrazer

Legend
Missed some good ones today, but always another day tomorrow. I went for Krejcikova under 18.5 against Diyas, but that's all I've got locked in right now. Will be a little surprised if that doesn't happen.

I'll see what else looks interesting and post in the morning. Gnight yall
 

James P

G.O.A.T.
Hopefully the amplitude of these manic-depressive Raducanu TTW prognosticator waves dampens over time. Having been here for two years now, I've shaken the magic 8-ball and it's said:

 

Mark-Touch

Hall of Fame
The challenge for Leylah is to strike a deal with a clothing manufacturer
who can create a wet suit that she can wear while playing tennis that will hide
her perspiration and still be breathable/comfortable. :)
 

Mark-Touch

Hall of Fame
Hopefully the amplitude of these manic-depressive Raducanu TTW prognosticator waves dampens over time. Having been here for two years now, I've shaken the magic 8-ball and it's said:

Disgraceful of you to dump your star after their first misstep.
Do you trash your friends in the same manner?
 

ScottleeSV

Professional
Has it occurred to you that she cares more about learning, including the hard way, about tennis than marketing value? No point cocooning herself in fast court tournaments. She needs to get with the beat, get to the mainstream of the tour and deal with players like Sasnovich. She will grow a muscle or two in the process.
It was better to have had this defeat than not had it. Got to look at the long game. She likely won't be the complete player until she's 20/21. These next couple of years are about learning the tour, improving, and getting into the top 10. If she wins tournaments, great. She will lose a lot though, and especially on courts like this, and that's fine.
 

Fintft

Legend
I think she will learn to hit through when she learns to be patient and stop pressing. The copious errors also came from her pressing. And when you press, you lose the beautiful form that she is already gifted with. She will have to accept that on slower surfaces, she will not only have to settle for longer rallies but also use more guile (like the brilliant drop shot Sasnovich came up with in the game in which she served for the match). And Raducanu is capable of both. She is young and slender so becoming an on court Energizer bunny should not be a problem for her and she also has the drop shot in her arsenal anyway. In a certain sense, she got obsessed with hitting through Sasnovich today and lost the very thing that made her game work at the USO. It was thoughtless execution as opposed to the thoughtfulness of USO. And again, I am not surprised. The only way the script would have played out differently would have been if Sasnovich started badly and Raducanu got a free ride through the first set. But it's good that that didn't happen. Murray said after the USO that Raducanu should think about the close games where she managed to squeeze holds or secure breaks and the mistakes she made in those games and how to rectify them. So this loss should serve as a humbling lesson and a timely reminder that more work is to be done. I was looking at how Raducanu was reacting to the match and she looked disgusted with herself rather than dazed in a "this was not part of the script" way. So hopefully that suggests she has learnt the right lesson from this match - that she didn't play well. And that she will have to learn to grind through tight matches on days when her game doesn't work like a dream.

What I think foremost is that she wasn't moving well. Gained some weight as well (it suits her, as woman, not as a tennis player though).
 

volleyandfun

Hall of Fame
She's not used to playing professional tennis period! Was doing her A levels this spring, Sasnovich has entered like 25 tournaments this season. She could tank all the way back down to world #125 by next year and would still be ahead of schedule.

Sasnovich now serving for the match. Just not good enough from Raducanu tonight, her FH has gotten exposed heavily.
This is actually not correct.
Her, Iga and L. Kung played at the same junior W2018, and she played other senior tournaments after trying to break in. Like Leonie Kung.
It just she didn't get anywhere. This year Wimbledon and USO was the real break for her.
Since nobody knew much about her before, no one paid too much attention. Now, everybody does.
It'll only get harder from now on for her.
 

Dolgopolov85

G.O.A.T.
What I think foremost is that she wasn't moving well. Gained some weight as well (it suits her, as woman, not as a tennis player though).
idk about weight gain. She did look slower and that could be due to her extended holiday after USO. I think she was basically just not match-ready. The outcome was predictable because the gap between USO and IW was long and she took a well deserved break after USO. This loss is good to bring her back to reality. She will feel hungry again for the next tournament now.
 

D-Lite

Professional
Leylah beat Osaka Kerber Svitolina Sabalenka in consecutive matches

Raducanu beat a lackadaisical Bencic and Sakkari.

when do we start calling Raducanu a weak era draw vulture? Tonight?
Don't act like Svitolina and Sabalenka are the toughest draws in major tournaments. Svitolina has performed best at the big tournaments outside of majors, and Sabalenka has only made big steps at majors this year. Kerber was having a rise in form, but she's been a far more compromised version of herself than the one who won the majors. Osaka does not need explaining - we have all seen those events unfold this year. Now, that is not to say Fernandez' draw was not impressive - it was, and she played exceptionally well to make the final, but the reality is that Raducanu beat her in straight sets, and from where I was watching it wasn't a choke - they both came out firing and playing very well, but Raducanu had the extra class to get the W. Bencic was the recent Olympic champion, so compare her major results and Olympic gold to Sabalenka's majors record and I'd take Bencic's achievements in singles to date. 2 majors SFs vs 1 major SF and an Olympic gold - the latter is more desirable. Sakkari has also made 2 major SFs this year. Add the fact that Raducanu won through. quails and Fernandez has been on the main tour far longer, and I don't think the result is so lopsided, but Fernandez's draw on paper does jump out initially as being far more tricky, I do agree there.
 

fundrazer

Legend
Looking at other options for today but Andreescu 2:0 over Riske (+100 (y) ) and Gauff under 20.5 games look good to me. Already had Krejcikova, but under 18.5 which might be dodgy. Will see if anything else looks interesting.

Also if Coco 2-0's that one then I'll be 7/8 picks in the free pool, only getting the Begu Tecihmann winner wrong. Forgot about that last one. 6/7 for picks from the finished matches.
 

HelenCH

Rookie
Is it possible that Emma could have played 10 matches in a row to win the U.S. Open without being nervous and is now nervous?
Wondering...
She had nothing to lose then, but have you seen BBC tennis pages since her US Open win? Raducanu this, Raducanu that. Typical British press.
 
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