2021 Yonex VCore Pro Official Thread

Crashbaby

Semi-Pro
Often wonder why the ezone XI 98 doesn't get the press like the Dr gets..the xi was one of my all time favorite Yonex.
Seconded! That raw connected feel is sorely lacking in the current generations. And it came in black! Its' the only Ezone to have taken down all the really big scalps on the tour too, Roger, Novak (twice), Rafa (beaten 3 times) and Andy have all fallen victim to the Ezone Xi98. Also took down and is unbeaten against Medvedev (2 wins, zero losses). Legendary racquet, and off course credit to one and only that wields it. :)
 

DJTaurus

Hall of Fame
Don’t strung it with Yonex Poly Tour Pro. It s…uckes big time. It just takes away everything good this racquet can offer…. feel, spin, sweet spot and even the medium level of power it can offer. It begs for a shaped poly imho. And go as low in tension as you can.
 

PrinceYonex

Rookie
First time posting, apologies it’s a bit of a long one. Recently bought VCP 97 310 2019 version as on discount and couldn’t get the 2021 version in my grip size initially. I added 3g at 3 and 9 and 2g in cap with overgrip (over original L4 grip). Racquet came 3g over spec so ended up 340g and 32cm balance. I strung it 46/44lbs with yonex PTP (black), following some advice about dropping string tension. initial thoughts are it plays very stiff even at hat tension but gives me a good balance of control, spin and manoeuvrability.

Comparing it to my DR98 (same overgrip and 3g at 3 and 9 string at 50lbs same string) I much prefer the VCP for serves, slice and volleys and feel it is a much more predictable racquet without the springboard effect I feel from the DR98. Howerver, I miss the pop and find myself having to really concentrate on hitting through the ball to get the pace want. I am also a bit worried the stifffeeling VCP97 might lead to recurrence of arm pain I had a few years ago when I used a stiffer racquet.

Long story short I am hoping the VCP 310 2021 combines the features I love of the two but welcome any feedback from those that have played with all 3. Thanks in advance for any responses.

Finally having felt the benefit of the VCP 97 to my serve volley game I am happy to sell DR98 as appreciate plenty of people are looking for them. If you are interest DM me, I am based in UK.
You could try re-stringing with gut mains and ptp crosses, or a multi main like NRG with the poly cross. It will feel must softer, more pop, great feel.
 

tennisblood

New User
97D has plenty of power, comfort and control.
I have high hopes for the VCP 97D, after the HUGE disappointment (severe tennis elbow) from the EZ100. In general, Yonex has been a disappointment. Everyone has been telling me how Yonex protects the elbow and their high quality, superb technology, flex, feel,.... and on and on and on. Not my experience at all. For today's match and yesterday hitting practice I went back to my oldie of the last 14 years, Babolat and what a joy it was. No pain felt during the match unlike EZ100....What a mistake it was to switch to EZ100! If the next 3 Yonex demo don't work, I'll forever forget about Yonex....
 

Tenni5am

New User
Don’t strung it with Yonex Poly Tour Pro. It s…uckes big time. It just takes away everything good this racquet can offer…. feel, spin, sweet spot and even the medium level of power it can offer. It begs for a shaped poly imho. And go as low in tension as you can.
Thanks for the suggestion, my local stringer has Signum Pro Plasma HEX-treme Pure and recommends it. Might give it a go at a few pounds lower tension.
 

Syfo-Dias

Professional
I have high hopes for the VCP 97D, after the HUGE disappointment (severe tennis elbow) from the EZ100. In general, Yonex has been a disappointment. Everyone has been telling me how Yonex protects the elbow and their high quality, superb technology, flex, feel,.... and on and on and on. Not my experience at all. For today's match and yesterday hitting practice I went back to my oldie of the last 14 years, Babolat and what a joy it was. No pain felt during the match unlike EZ100....What a mistake it was to switch to EZ100! If the next 3 Yonex demo don't work, I'll forever forget about Yonex....
I don't even know how it's possible to get elbow pain from this racquet. It's got a 61RA and VDM in the handle. It's about as soft as you can get.
 
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tele

New User
Next 3 Demo's are:
VCP 97D
EZ 98 Tour
I have high hopes for the VCP 97D, after the HUGE disappointment (severe tennis elbow) from the EZ100. In general, Yonex has been a disappointment. Everyone has been telling me how Yonex protects the elbow and their high quality, superb technology, flex, feel,.... and on and on and on. Not my experience at all. For today's match and yesterday hitting practice I went back to my oldie of the last 14 years, Babolat and what a joy it was. No pain felt during the match unlike EZ100....What a mistake it was to switch to EZ100! If the next 3 Yonex demo don't work, I'll forever forget about Yonex....
The EZ100 is a pretty stiff racquet. I think the arm friendly reputation (at least semi-recently) was from the Ai 98 and DR98 because they were a lot softer than the other racquets with a similar target demographic (pure strike, pro staff 97, etc.). The VC98 is not particularly soft, and the EZONE Tour does not have a great reputation for arm friendliness on the TT boards. If you have a bunch of time and patience to demo, it sounds like the 2021 iterations of the vcore pro 310 and 330 might be even softer feeling than the 97D due to their 16x19 string pattern and similar flex.  Ultimately, though, if the babolat feels great and plays well, maybe no need to mess with a good thing.
 
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10S-Junkie

Rookie
I have high hopes for the VCP 97D, after the HUGE disappointment (severe tennis elbow) from the EZ100. In general, Yonex has been a disappointment. Everyone has been telling me how Yonex protects the elbow and their high quality, superb technology, flex, feel,.... and on and on and on. Not my experience at all. For today's match and yesterday hitting practice I went back to my oldie of the last 14 years, Babolat and what a joy it was. No pain felt during the match unlike EZ100....What a mistake it was to switch to EZ100! If the next 3 Yonex demo don't work, I'll forever forget about Yonex....
What strings and tension did you use in the EZ100?
 

Strayfire

Rookie
I have high hopes for the VCP 97D, after the HUGE disappointment (severe tennis elbow) from the EZ100. In general, Yonex has been a disappointment. Everyone has been telling me how Yonex protects the elbow and their high quality, superb technology, flex, feel,.... and on and on and on. Not my experience at all. For today's match and yesterday hitting practice I went back to my oldie of the last 14 years, Babolat and what a joy it was. No pain felt during the match unlike EZ100....What a mistake it was to switch to EZ100! If the next 3 Yonex demo don't work, I'll forever forget about Yonex....
I have tennis elbow as well and let me tell you that 18x20 pattern frames are stiffer than the RA would suggest.

My Vcore Pro HD (previous version of 97D) hurts to play with unless I string it with a non-cored multi (like NRG2) in the Winter, despite a 59 RA rating.

I would try the Tecnifibre T-Fight 300 RS, a softer variant of the T-Rebound Iga which I reviewed recently and found adequate for TE.

Otherwise look into ProKennex.
 

tennisblood

New User
I have tennis elbow as well and let me tell you that 18x20 pattern frames are stiffer than the RA would suggest.

My Vcore Pro HD (previous version of 97D) hurts to play with unless I string it with a non-cored multi (like NRG2) in the Winter, despite a 59 RA rating.

I would try the Tecnifibre T-Fight 300 RS, a softer variant of the T-Rebound Iga which I reviewed recently and found adequate for TE.

Otherwise look into ProKennex.
Thanks I will choose my racket only among the top 3: Babo, Wilson and Yonex. I did demo Tecnifibre T-Fight 300 RS (Medvedev?) It was ok, but nothing to write home about.
 

tennisblood

New User
I have tennis elbow as well and let me tell you that 18x20 pattern frames are stiffer than the RA would suggest.

My Vcore Pro HD (previous version of 97D) hurts to play with unless I string it with a non-cored multi (like NRG2) in the Winter, despite a 59 RA rating.

I would try the Tecnifibre T-Fight 300 RS, a softer variant of the T-Rebound Iga which I reviewed recently and found adequate for TE.

Otherwise look into ProKennex.
At RA=61, the VCP 97D might still be ok. I like my RA=64+ EZ100 RA is 68... That might be a contributing factor to TE...
 

tennisblood

New User
The EZ100 is a pretty stiff racquet. I think the arm friendly reputation (at least semi-recently) was from the Ai 98 and DR98 because they were a lot softer than the other racquets with a similar target demographic (pure strike, pro staff 97, etc.). The VC98 is not particularly soft, and the EZONE Tour does not have a great reputation for arm friendliness on the TT boards. If you have a bunch of time and patience to demo, it sounds like the 2021 iterations of the vcore pro 310 and 330 might be even softer feeling than the 97D due to their 16x19 string pattern and similar flex.  Ultimately, though, if the babolat feels great and plays well, maybe no need to mess with a good thing.
That Babo, btw is Pure Storm Tour GT - discontinued in 2009; a fabulous player's racket. I thought that the technology has improved so much in the last 12-15 years, hence the desire to switch to a more powerful racket, since after 33 years of playing tennis, I had thought I needed it....
 

krikamons

Rookie
Hello, can anyone share their views as to how muted the feel of the 2021 VCPs is - ie is it as bad as some reviews suggest that it is not possible get decent feedback at contact. Is it blade v7 kind of muted?
 

guilhermefdc

Semi-Pro
Hello, can anyone share their views as to how muted the feel of the 2021 VCPs is - ie is it as bad as some reviews suggest that it is not possible get decent feedback at contact. Is it blade v7 kind of muted?
It reminds me somewhat of the v7 in terms of how muted it is, but, unlike the Blades, you can actually tell where on the stringbed the ball hit. It’s not an easy feeling to explain - although the VCPs do remind me of the v7, I don’t think they share the biggest flaw (the stringbed thing)
 

tomkowy

Rookie
Hello, can anyone share their views as to how muted the feel of the 2021 VCPs is - ie is it as bad as some reviews suggest that it is not possible get decent feedback at contact. Is it blade v7 kind of muted?
It's muted because you don't feel the impact of the ball that intensively. It's kind of "lowered volume", similar as Head Gravity Tour or Pro. The old Pure Drives would be on the other end of "volume scale" - you could feel every bit of impact on your arm. Still, with VCore Pro 2021 you can feel the ball pocketing and where you hit on the strings well, for sure better than with Gravity. New VCP may feel strange for somebody used to stiffer racquets, hence the comments about no feedback.
 

krikamons

Rookie
Thanks. That is encouraging. Playing with gravity at the moment (and played with v7 before) and have not had a problem with either being too muted.
 

fox

Semi-Pro
That Babo, btw is Pure Storm Tour GT - discontinued in 2009; a fabulous player's racket. I thought that the technology has improved so much in the last 12-15 years, hence the desire to switch to a more powerful racket, since after 33 years of playing tennis, I had thought I needed it....
There are some minor new technologies but there is nothing new in current racquets that was not in let's say first APD or PD...
 

Mischko

Rookie
VCP 100 and 97D have better feel than Gravity Tour and Pro, but are comparable, 97 is slightly stiffer but still very similar. I restrung them with different strings and tensions, lower and higher. Blade v7 is very different, muted, and muted in a different way.
 

skeeter

Professional
VCP 100 and 97D have better feel than Gravity Tour and Pro, but are comparable, 97 is slightly stiffer but still very similar. I restrung them with different strings and tensions, lower and higher. Blade v7 is very different, muted, and muted in a different way.
How are you liking the VCP100 and how would you compare to the VCP 97 (310)?
 

Mischko

Rookie
VCP 100 isn't mine, I've played with two different ones, so twice for about 10-20min, with different fresh strings, PT Tough and yellow PTP. I'll be adding a little bit of lead to one VCP100 soon, to 3&9, maybe 12, just to test it, to modify it slightly for its owner, to get easier depth. It's not a racquet for me, but it's great, I've formed a very high opinion of it, it's easy to play with, great feel. It still requires long smooth swings. Perfect for coaches, and other players of course.

97 is more demanding, asks for hard hitting non stop, and I like it. Slightly stiffer feel than 100 or 97D. Added lots of lead to it, to 3&9 and it's even better, really controlled launch angle and trajectory, so you can bash the ball flat, but if you only wrap it for a slower sharp cross, it's still great and precise. 100 and 97 do not compete really, they are for different players. I've seen on youtube that ex-ATP pros in Japan take the 100, put a leather grip on it, maybe some lead in the head and enjoy it. But if you're a fast attacking player, 97 is for you.
 

skeeter

Professional
VCP 100 isn't mine, I've played with two different ones, so twice for about 10-20min, with different fresh strings, PT Tough and yellow PTP. I'll be adding a little bit of lead to one VCP100 soon, to 3&9, maybe 12, just to test it, to modify it slightly for its owner, to get easier depth. It's not a racquet for me, but it's great, I've formed a very high opinion of it, it's easy to play with, great feel. It still requires long smooth swings. Perfect for coaches, and other players of course.

97 is more demanding, asks for hard hitting non stop, and I like it. Slightly stiffer feel than 100 or 97D. Added lots of lead to it, to 3&9 and it's even better, really controlled launch angle and trajectory, so you can bash the ball flat, but if you only wrap it for a slower sharp cross, it's still great and precise. 100 and 97 do not compete really, they are for different players. I've seen on youtube that ex-ATP pros in Japan take the 100, put a leather grip on it, maybe some lead in the head and enjoy it. But if you're a fast attacking player, 97 is for you.
Much appreciated. What strings/tension have you used on the VCP 97?
 

Mischko

Rookie
Poly Tour Rev in different colours at 25/24kg (55lb) and 24/23 (53lb), and yellow PTP also 24/23kg. PTR is great, PTP is dead as usual, difficult to get some punch through the court sometimes, but dampened and nice for the arm. I'll be trying some other strings now too
 

JoaoN

Semi-Pro
Tried the new 97 310 for an hour yesterday. The biggest surprise was the comeback of the feel, i disliked the feel of emerald green version, and also how the new ezones and vcore 95 felt. I had no feedback at all. The 2021 vcore pro 97 solved that (hope yonex carry it on for the new ezones).

The one i tried was strung with lynx tour at 51lbs, really liked the feel, and the improved stability from the thicker beam. Missed some plow and mass behind the ball though.
 
Tried the new 97 310 for an hour yesterday. The biggest surprise was the comeback of the feel, i disliked the feel of emerald green version, and also how the new ezones and vcore 95 felt. I had no feedback at all. The 2021 vcore pro 97 solved that (hope yonex carry it on for the new ezones).

The one i tried was strung with lynx tour at 51lbs, really liked the feel, and the improved stability from the thicker beam. Missed some plow and mass behind the ball though.
I added 2 inches of TW's tungsten tape to 10:00, 12:00 and 2:00 (i.e. 2 inches in total at each of the three locations, 1 inch on each side).
The swingweight increased from 318 to 329 with Yonex vibration dampener (measured using Babolat RDC).
My 2021 Vcore Pro 97 310's are now AMAZING!!!!!
 
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Mischko

Rookie
yeah, they are really good. I first tried adding some lead towards 2&10, but then preferred 3&9, then added more, 6g total, and it's really good. will now reduce that and try adding only a little to 12, 2g max
 

Bal

New User
Demo has gone back now, but I’m still on the fence for the VCP 97 2021 310g. Not sure if it’s the low swing weight that’s stopping me pulling the trigger, but I’m sure lead would had made it play better. I am going to try the VCP 97D again, but in a grip size 3 this time. Should have that to try in a couple of weeks.
I managed to demo the VCore 95 2021 and re-demo the VCP 97D 2021. I provided my feedback in the VCore 95 thread, in short, the VCore 95 2021 didn't work for me. The VCP 97D I feel is something I could probably get used to as I was able to land some pretty good first serves and good second serves today and practiced FH's and 1BH's as well using the ball machine in the freezing cold UK weather. I have the VCP 97D for another week and have a drill session next week at my club so will use it then and some more serve practice also. I'll report back my final findings and whether I do switch to this racket.
 

tennisblood

New User
I'm curious to find out from all of you, impressions re. VCP 97D 2021 vs VCP 97 2021, beyond the obvious 18x20 vs 16x19 and the published specs. I'm also interested in the customization options for the VCP 97 2021 as it seems like potentially my type of racket with the increased weight and SW. Also, My beloved Babo Pure Storm Tour GT is 16x20. How would you compare 16x20 pattern to 18x20 and to 16x19?
 

Tranqville

Rookie
I'm curious to find out from all of you, impressions re. VCP 97D 2021 vs VCP 97 2021, beyond the obvious 18x20 vs 16x19 and the published specs. I'm also interested in the customization options for the VCP 97 2021 as it seems like potentially my type of racket with the increased weight and SW. Also, My beloved Babo Pure Storm Tour GT is 16x20. How would you compare 16x20 pattern to 18x20 and to 16x19?
I could not get my hands on the D just yet, so join the request from @tennisblood
 

Bal

New User
I'm curious to find out from all of you, impressions re. VCP 97D 2021 vs VCP 97 2021, beyond the obvious 18x20 vs 16x19 and the published specs. I'm also interested in the customization options for the VCP 97 2021 as it seems like potentially my type of racket with the increased weight and SW. Also, My beloved Babo Pure Storm Tour GT is 16x20. How would you compare 16x20 pattern to 18x20 and to 16x19?
From my short demo with the VCP 97 2021, I initially thought it was a great racket and good fit for my game in stock form, but felt it lacked plow through. You do have to provide your own power through good mechanics.

For me, it is the low swing weight in stock form that stopped me from pulling the trigger. It does depend on what racket you’re coming from, I’m coming from an RF97A v11.

I don’t really want to be adding any weight to my next racket as it was not needed on the RF97A. This is where I feel that the VCP 97D at the 320g unstrung weight helps, and sits nicely in the VCP 2021 range. It already has the plow through with a healthy swing weight and no need to add any weight unless you want to make it HL or HH.

The demo VCP 97D I am using right now is on a grip 2, with the plastic on the grip, a Tournagrip overgrip, a strip of black tape covering the bumper guard and string dampener. Not sure about the demo strings, but it weighs in at circa 345g.

I did previously demo a VCP 97D on a grip size 4, but the weight felt too much at the time(351g) with syn gut strings and felt HH, so not sure if Yonex’s QC was a bit off on that one so was ready to discard it as an option.

Best way forward is to get extended demos of both the rackets and use them in both practice and match situations. I wish I had done that before spending money on my RF97A(sold now) because by the third set, my shoulder was done for with the RF97A.

HTH
 

Mischko

Rookie
RF97A was my weapon for ~5 years as well, and I'm still thinking of going back to them, although I didn't like when I was late with it, that my strings last 2h, that it's string and tension sensitive, and tiresome and clunky on clay against weaker opponents who send floating high balls, slices etc. But I really adore the plow through and power and much more, and just hitting and playing on hard court is a such joy with it.

As a path towards a lighter racquet first I had dark blue Vcore Pros 330g, really great, I played really well with them too. Then the actual Radical Pro, I still have those as well, great but lack punch through, they are more for a grinding type of tennis, think Murray or Schwartzman, placing the ball around and holding it in play, ultra consistent and controlled, I lack power but I feel like I could hold the ball in play indefinitely. Not exactly my style, but still a good racquet, stable, fabulous on returns, light and fast but polarized and super sturdy and stable.

Both my VCP 97 and 97D are almost on spec, 310/320g with very slightly lighter head than spec, ~308/318mm balance (spec: 310/320mm). On 97 I now have 3+3g of lead at 3&9 but will make that 2+2+2 to 3-9-12, I need more weight and plow, higher SW. But even without it it's a great racquet. On 97D I have 1.5+1.5g at 3&9 but it's not really necessary. However I need more power, and I'll try adding some at 12 too, if it doesn't make me too slow. I've now played with 3 different new 97s, and two different 97Ds.

VCP 97 is slightly stiffer than 97D, I don't really feel the flex. I wouldn't call it plush, but it is forgiving and it's faster, needs faster swinging, and full long swings. It is a racquet for fast attacking tennis with variety, good on volleys too. Great ball trajectory, you can punch it flat through the court, or bend it as you will, a great quality in a frame. Great on one handed backhand too, with or without lead. Could be better on returns, but that is expected from a lighter frame. It's stable, but if I try to return bombs I can't just stab at the ball, I need more mass in it, and if I go full swing at the ball Tsitsipas style then I can be late. I still have to tune that part in, since I'm more used to heavier racquets and more blocking on returns. Lead at 12 will prolly help some. Great on serves, precise, fast, flat or kick, really good. Serve, like groundstrokes, could be heavier, but again, it's a lighter racquet and I like it a lot really. It's maneuvrable, and that is a big weapon in points play.

97D is plusher feeling than 97, I can feel the racquet flex, on groundstrokes and serves. It flexes nicely, sort of absorbing but not too much, it's still a very stable racquet. It has a near perfect weight distribution, something I noticed with old dark blue VCP 330g as well, so my motion through longest possible swings goes so naturally, on serves too. I'm 1.90 or 6'3 and I go as big as I can, flat or kick, I blast them with all I have, even on second serves. Great feel, could have more power though, but really great on serves. Volleys too, stable, great feel.

It's a kind of open pattern for 18x20, it bends the ball easily on all kind of shots, but with a long stroke, no short strokes with it. I played only with 1.25 strings, PT Rev mostly, and both 97 and 97D prefer lower tensions, and play great with lower tensions, not something I'd usually say. I string RF97A at 27 or 28kg with poly, minimum 26kg or I just lose control (60-62-57lb). But with these you can go veery low and after the string loosens after an hour I can still flatten the ball with full power, and it's very easily controlled, no need to adjust anything really, even before it breaks. In both frames strings last a lot - lighter weight, flex, denser patterns, and they are more for flattening the ball, all that helps, so 4h of hard hitting is no problem in both, a surprise for me, after restringing RF97As after 1.5h endless times.

That's an advantage to these new Vcore Pros, but a minus as well, because both 97 and 97D always need full long strokes, and with the 97D it takes a bit more time, and makes me late sometimes, in a points play situation. You have a mishit slice going to your ankles? - you need a full loong stroke or it doesn't do much if you just pick it up and bunt it, you lose the point. You're off balance and you just want to block the ball back? - nope, you need full long swing, and your feet must be in the perfect spot to transfer weight forward. You're stretched on your forehand and you'd like to wrist the ball back? - yeah, no. You need to wide swing at it, it'll go in, but you'll be grunting.

They are great for super hard hitting, ultra linear and predictable, 97D particularly, controlled, forgiving, great trajectory, feel, stability etc. but you always have to attack the ball correctly, no half-attempts. If you come to the court thinking "today, I'll hit the ball as fast as I can, where's the speed monitor", Del Potro or Stan style, you can hit like that with these non-stop. With 97D hitting on hard court through the middle, I feel like I can place a million hard hit balls at the same spot, easily on the opponent's base line, and keep hitting like that until there's no more "Dunlop ATP" visible on that one ball. But in match play opponents move you around and it's not always easy to have time for a full long swing with perfectly placed feet and weight transfer. So both these new Vcore Pros ask that you play focused, veery fast on your feet attacking tennis. They will actually make you a better player, without being too heavy or too stiff, so that's not half bad.

I'm definitely keeping both, will have to decide of which I'll get one or two more. I'd kind of like a 16x19 or 16x20 97D though, although this 18x20 isn't dead at all, it's open and totally bends the ball, but more power would be nice with these forgiving flexier frames.

And sorry for the long post, now that you're at the end, feel free to skip it ;)
 
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tennisblood

New User
RF97A was my weapon for ~5 years as well, and I'm still thinking of going back to them, although I didn't like when I was late with it, that my strings last 2h, that it's string and tension sensitive, and tiresome and clunky on clay against weaker opponents who send floating high balls, slices etc. But I really adore the plow through and power and much more, and just hitting and playing on hard court is a such joy with it.

As a path towards a lighter racquet first I had dark blue Vcore Pros 330g, really great, I played really well with them too. Then the actual Radical Pro, I still have those as well, great but lack punch through, they are more for a grinding type of tennis, think Murray or Schwartzman, placing the ball around and holding it in play, ultra consistent and controlled, I lack power but I feel like I could hold the ball in play indefinitely. Not exactly my style, but still a good racquet, stable, fabulous on returns, light and fast but polarized and super sturdy and stable.

Both my VCP 97 and 97D are almost on spec, 310/320g with very slightly lighter head than spec, ~308/318mm balance (spec: 310/320mm). On 97 I now have 3+3g of lead at 3&9 but will make that 2+2+2 to 3-9-12, I need more weight and plow, higher SW. But even without it it's a great racquet. On 97D I have 1.5+1.5g at 3&9 but it's not really necessary. However I need more power, and I'll try adding some at 12 too, if it doesn't make me too slow. I've now played with 3 different new 97s, and two different 97Ds.

VCP 97 is slightly stiffer than 97D, I don't really feel the flex. I wouldn't call it plush, but it is forgiving and it's faster, needs faster swinging, and full long swings. It is a racquet for fast attacking tennis with variety, good on volleys too. Great ball trajectory, you can punch it flat through the court, or bend it as you will, a great quality in a frame. Great on one handed backhand too, with or without lead. Could be better on returns, but that is expected from a lighter frame. It's stable, but if I try to return bombs I can't just stab at the ball, I need more mass in it, and if I go full swing at the ball Tsitsipas style then I can be late. I still have to tune that part in, since I'm more used to heavier racquets and more blocking on returns. Lead at 12 will prolly help some. Great on serves, precise, fast, flat or kick, really good. Serve, like groundstrokes, could be heavier, but again, it's a lighter racquet and I like it a lot really. It's maneuvrable, and that is a big weapon in points play.

97D is plusher feeling than 97, I can feel the racquet flex, on groundstrokes and serves. It flexes nicely, sort of absorbing but not too much, it's still a very stable racquet. It has a near perfect weight distribution, something I noticed with old dark blue VCP 330g as well, so my motion through longest possible swings goes so naturally, on serves too. I'm 1.90 or 6'3 and I go as big as I can, flat or kick, I blast them with all I have, even on second serves. Great feel, could have more power though, but really great on serves. Volleys too, stable, great feel.

It's a kind of open pattern for 18x20, it bends the ball easily on all kind of shots, but with a long stroke, no short strokes with it. I played only with 1.25 strings, PT Rev mostly, and both 97 and 97D prefer lower tensions, and play great with lower tensions, not something I'd usually say. I string RF97A at 27 or 28kg with poly, minimum 26kg or I just lose control (60-62-57lb). But with these you can go veery low and after the string loosens after an hour I can still flatten the ball with full power, and it's very easily controlled, no need to adjust anything really, even before it breaks. In both frames strings last a lot - lighter weight, flex, denser patterns, and they are more for flattening the ball, all that helps, so 4h of hard hitting is no problem in both, a surprise for me, after restringing RF97As after 1.5h endless times.

That's an advantage to these new Vcore Pros, but a minus as well, because both 97 and 97D always need full long strokes, and with the 97D it takes a bit more time, and makes me late sometimes, in a points play situation. You have a mishit slice going to your ankles? - you need a full loong stroke or it doesn't do much if you just pick it up and bunt it, you lose the point. You're off balance and you just want to block the ball back? - nope, you need full long swing, and your feet must be in the perfect spot to transfer weight forward. You're stretched on your forehand and you'd like to wrist the ball back? - yeah, no. You need to wide swing at it, it'll go in, but you'll be grunting.

They are great for super hard hitting, ultra linear and predictable, 97D particularly, controlled, forgiving, great trajectory, feel, stability etc. but you always have to attack the ball correctly, no half-attempts. If you come to the court thinking "today, I'll hit the ball as fast as I can, where's the speed monitor", Del Potro or Stan style, you can hit like that with these non-stop. With 97D hitting on hard court through the middle, I feel like I can place a million hard hit balls at the same spot, easily on the opponent's base line, and keep hitting like that until there's no more "Dunlop ATP" visible on that one ball. But in match play opponents move you around and it's not always easy to have time for a full long swing with perfectly placed feet and weight transfer. So both these new Vcore Pros ask that you play focused, veery fast on your feet attacking tennis. They will actually make you a better player, without being too heavy or too stiff, so that's not half bad.

I'm definitely keeping both, will have to decide of which I'll get one or two more. I'd kind of like a 16x19 or 16x20 97D though, although this 18x20 isn't dead at all, it's open and totally bends the ball, but more power would be nice with these forgiving flexier frames.

And sorry for the long post, now that you're at the end, feel free to skip it ;)
Thanks for the detailed post; was hoping to get one or more, just like that
 

ichaseballs

Semi-Pro
most advanced players will not like the 310 stock. most intermediate and beginners probably not looking at this frame.
that said the 97 310g with just a little weight at 3&9. much better. just a gram made a big difference.
i still like my vcore98. switching between the two constantly right now
 

emaz8724

Rookie
most advanced players will not like the 310 stock. most intermediate and beginners probably not looking at this frame.
that said the 97 310g with just a little weight at 3&9. much better. just a gram made a big difference.
i still like my vcore98. switching between the two constantly right now
The twistweight is solid with this iteration, so I always thought 1-2 g at 12 made more sense with this frame.
 
most advanced players will not like the 310 stock. most intermediate and beginners probably not looking at this frame.
that said the 97 310g with just a little weight at 3&9. much better. just a gram made a big difference.
i still like my vcore98. switching between the two constantly right now
I did two inches of TW’s tungsten tape at three different places on my 2021 97 310s (at 10:00, 12:00 and 2:00). Swingweight increased to 329 with static weight to 336. PHENOMENAL
 

emaz8724

Rookie
to be honest, i didn't try anything else.
i always have done 3+9 on all my frames going back.
i prefer keeping it more HL, but you got me curious now... :unsure:
Curious to hear your results if you try it. I have 2 VCP 97 310s ordered on 11/5 using the MRT service, but the newest batch in Atlanta all averaged 279 sw unstrung! Too low to even mess with customizing when the static weight and balance were on spec. If I’m going to start that low in swingweight, I want the static weight to start around 300 to give me enough room to customize.

Side note - got the Boom Pro demo and I might update my order if it serves as well as it feels shadow swinging :alien: . It’s weird, but the flex is more noticeable on the Boom Pro, despite the 66 RA
 

ichaseballs

Semi-Pro
All this customization talk makes me glad I went with a lower spec 97H. I've got a strung SW of 335 and don't have to mess around with lead tape. It's just simpler and feels solid as a tank.
i see someone is a stan fan! :laughing:

i am a fan of quotes (as you'll see on my signature) i always think of sam beckett's snippet tattoo'd on stan's arm

"Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better"
 

Syfo-Dias

Professional
i see someone is a stan fan! :laughing:

i am a fan of quotes (as you'll see on my signature) i always think of sam beckett's snippet tattoo'd on stan's arm
"Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better"
This I cannot deny. Unfortunately, like most mortals, there's no way I could wield Stan's actual racquet haha!
 
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Hall of Fame
i'd say it's less muted than the EZone line, but still muted. Definitely doesn't have the feel of the Duel G, not even the blue VCore Pro. Maybe a smidgen more feel than the v11 Pro Staff 97.
 

Tranqville

Rookie
I was thinking about the VCORE PRO model line. Many of us wish we had a 315-320g VCP with 16x19 or 16x20 string pattern. As a marketer, I have a guess. Each category targets customers that use a specific top competitor in feel/control player's racquets.

VCP H targets customers of Wilson RF 97
VCP D targets customers of Head Prestige Pro (formerly known as Prestige MP, 320g 18x20)
VCP 310 targets customers of Wilson Pro Staff 97 v13 (same concept, lighter flagship model) and Prestige Tour, MP (formerly Pro, Tour)

I would have redesigned the product line slightly:

VCP C - 330g, 335 SW, 18x20 (control-oriented)
VCP - 320g, 327 SW, 16x19 (main)
VCP F - 310g, 320 SW, 16x19 (accessible, maneuverable)
 

Bal

New User
I managed to demo the VCore 95 2021 and re-demo the VCP 97D 2021. I provided my feedback in the VCore 95 thread, in short, the VCore 95 2021 didn't work for me. The VCP 97D I feel is something I could probably get used to as I was able to land some pretty good first serves and good second serves today and practiced FH's and 1BH's as well using the ball machine in the freezing cold UK weather. I have the VCP 97D for another week and have a drill session next week at my club so will use it then and some more serve practice also. I'll report back my final findings and whether I do switch to this racket.
The VCP 97D demo has gone back now, and I received my own VCP 97D today. It’s strung with Poly Tour Air blue at 55lbs. Have I switched? Well I guess you could say I have, as I have sold my Blade 98 v7 18x20 last week. Still hanging on to my PS97 v13, but will make sure it stays in my bag and just use the VCP.
 

Mischko

Rookie
a 330g 18x20 flexy low powered frame is a no go. 18x20 is lower powered than 16x19, sometimes really dead, so in a 330 it's difficult to get it moving fast enough, even for a top pro player. it'd work in some shots where you have time to reaaaaaaaaaaly swing back, but you'd mostly be really slow on attack with it in attacking style of tennis, and late on defense, although it might work for defensive baseliners. both novak and medvedev play dense patterns in heavy frames, and both are not-so-great in attacking, but great at blocking the ball back, they depend on incoming pace. already the 97D is too slow for 18x20, and I'd prefer it as 16m x19 or x20 in it to get power, and as a 315g frame, simply because it really costs time to swing it back and forth. I added some lead at 12 and it helps, but now it's even slower. that's why 18x20 should be in a lighter frame.. and since this got me thinking, I actually think they should merge the 97 and 97D into 315g and offer both string patterns. they could introduce a 305g for juniors of course. at the same time they could reduce the 330 to 325g but it would still remain a low sales volume product.
 
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